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The Phantom Pain; Metal Gear Solid V?
Topic Started: Dec 8 2012, 07:22 AM (8,872 Views)
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i saw the interview.
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as well as the trailer that was promised for GDC

Can't wait

"so that is the fox engine then?"

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^my favorite part of the interview.
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So you guys remember those images we've seen, of FOX engine rendering rooms and it looks real? It looks like Joakim was rendered in FOX Engine, and he's not a real person. (Obv Geoff was in on it). When you watch the interview, if you just simply stare at his face, and the longer you watch, the less real his face looks. The lighting on the bridge of his nose is also wrong, compared to the lighting on the rest of his face and room's light source. Also, his cheekbones are odd at certain angles. Also, his blinking is unnatural, as well as the bandage texture being impossibly different in areas it shouldn't be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yRpbxBDA1-Q#t=142s

From here to the end, his eye area and the bridge of his nose are completely odd looking.

So, yeah, possibility that he was a render.
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^ It's definitely plausible, I thought something looked off while I watched the interview... Also it would be make sense with GDC "Photorealism" session about FoxEngine.

This interview was pretty pointless (He refused to answer almost every question) which leads me to believe its there to surprise people at GDC when they reveal that the whole thing was a product of the Engine.


Loved the ending though.

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Couldn't really tell watching on my phone, but if that's a render its pretty impressive
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Mar 15 2013, 01:09 PM
Couldn't really tell watching on my phone, but if that's a render its pretty impressive
Absolutely. Only now that someone mentioned it I was able to identify such oddities.
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Mar 15 2013, 03:25 PM
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Mar 15 2013, 01:09 PM
Couldn't really tell watching on my phone, but if that's a render its pretty impressive
Absolutely. Only now that someone mentioned it I was able to identify such oddities.
Agreed, good shout Scotia. It would make perfect sense.

I was slightly confused at the dark background of "Joakim" then the ridiculously bright pink behind Geoff.

Skin textures do look similar to those of these

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That plastic-like but still looks good kinda way.
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Also, guys, the Moby Dick studios logo isn't a whale's tail, it's a two headed snake, just stylized.

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No I'm not serious. :p

Another aspect of Joakim that seems off is the whites of his eyes. They are too bright, and stark. Especially given the room he is in and its lighting, not to mention no one has eyes that are that seamless and pristine, they are basically free of all life...
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If he's indeed CG it's probably the most real I have ever seen. But we can be pretty sure it's all acted, by both 'Joakim' and Geoff.
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Dat Snake in the lower right corner, lolz.
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Haha!
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Mar 15 2013, 11:22 AM
So you guys remember those images we've seen, of FOX engine rendering rooms and it looks real? It looks like Joakim was rendered in FOX Engine, and he's not a real person. (Obv Geoff was in on it). When you watch the interview, if you just simply stare at his face, and the longer you watch, the less real his face looks. The lighting on the bridge of his nose is also wrong, compared to the lighting on the rest of his face and room's light source. Also, his cheekbones are odd at certain angles. Also, his blinking is unnatural, as well as the bandage texture being impossibly different in areas it shouldn't be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yRpbxBDA1-Q#t=142s

From here to the end, his eye area and the bridge of his nose are completely odd looking.

So, yeah, possibility that he was a render.
lol...

no.

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>Says ''no'' with nothing else to add
>Says ''no'' to me but not everyone else here agreeing with me
>Implying half the internet isn't saying the same thing

I never said it was for certain, lolcartman... typical, I was expecting you to say ''No'' since you didn't bring it up yourself. But go tell that to most of the internet who's reporting the same stuff. In b4 typical reply because you can't let something go without getting that last word in.

Let's hear it, bro.
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Well it's obviously a real person, Fox engine is good, but it's not THAT good

I would very happily be wrong on this and get fucking insanely realistic facial renders like that but.. nope, no way in shit is that cgi, lol. But again I'll happily admit I was fooled if it is revealed to have been a render of a fake person when GDC starts.

And I know you didn't say it was certain, that doesn't mean I can't reply to such absurd theory, and I know you share it with many others, that doesn't mean it's any less stupid, son

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You know there's better CG than that now days right? Even years ago there was better CG... plus given all the black near Joakim, it's possible to use it as a smokescreen, this is the basis of CG, lol. I dun expect you to know that though. :3

And yeah, you can reply to things, but man you sure don't put in an effort until someone mentions how you are just shitposting, lol.

Dis Cartman, lol...
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Mar 15 2013, 07:38 PM
You know there's better CG than that now days right? Even years ago there was better CG... plus given all the black near Joakim, it's possible to use it as a smokescreen, this is the basis of CG, lol. I dun expect you to know that though. :3

And yeah, you can reply to things, but man you sure don't put in an effort until someone mentions how you are just shitposting, lol.

Dis Cartman, lol...
how... am I shitposting? I'm replying to a garbage theory that is utterly silly, there are loads of them online and this is one of them

And really there's better CG than that? There's better CG than an actual live person, that is some baller shit, scotia.

I can't wait to quote you on that 2 weeks down the line when he's revealed to simply just be a dude in bandage.

Learn what shitposting means, me calling out a dumb theory isn't shitposting. Your replies to me for the past week, now that's shitposting.

I know you troll with me a lot but this is just getting baffling, should I just refrain from treating you like an actual person from now on or what?

incoming: cartmad, lolmadson, cartmansomad, lolareyouactuallythismadson

And I'm the shitposter, LA LI LU LE LOL!
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Why would you call me out on something that I haven't claimed to be concrete? Is that what you'd TRULY need to do to feel good about yourself? That's incredibly sad, lol. I also didn't mention you were shitposting right now (even though you are), just in general. It's not apparent to only me, since we have a fucking thread in the mod section dedicated to your bullshit... and it wasn't even made by me.

As usual. Just sayin', you only said ''hurr no derp'' because you knew it'd get a reply from me. You don't even try to make your shit viable until someone mentions it. And you'll deny this...

:p

There is even an image in this very topic of a person rendered in FOX Engine, you tool. And aside from the tiny bit of hair and lighting on the eye you can't tell the difference Also considering Joakim's hair is covered, could be an easy way out of rendering hair. Black helps mask a lot of faults to the human eye, it's a colour that is hard to discern certain aspects from. It's why black clothes make people appear thin, it hides shape very well and other things. Again, I'm not saying it's concrete, but you absolutely need to keep that aspect twisted in your mind so you can ''prove'' me wrong when I'm not right or wrong about anything. You're fucking terrible, dude.

Just get the fuck out.

Time for me to dip into that thread and make a request. :3

Edit: And I very much so know what shitposting means, bro. Prime example? ''Lol no'' and nothing else but the intentions to cause shit.
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You can see Mogren on Kojima's laptop screen (just at the bottom).
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Jesus that food looks delicious.
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