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| Hoss | Dec 8 2012, 10:48 PM Post #81 |
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| Zelski | Dec 8 2012, 10:55 PM Post #82 |
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oh god I surely hope it isn't a vita game>=/ |
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| Cartman | Dec 8 2012, 10:56 PM Post #83 |
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why are people so offended because I find "cinematic gameplay" to be fucking horrible I think Ground Zeroes looks fucking awesome from what we've seen, if PP and GZ are one game I'll be fine with us having some gameplay that plays itself during a few heavily scripted setpieces but if it takes cues from the rest of this gen the past 2 years and is a game on rails with no god damn gameplay ofc I'm gonna hate it.. MGS has always been about the freedom in gameplay, if they're shoving these faggot ass on-rails segment every 2 minutes on us it's gonna affect the game don't cha think I'm hyped about this, I thought it was a cool trailer seeing all the trippy shit and it's definitely a fucking legendary way to reveal it, I'd prefer it if it was just one game though because how do they split up resources and stuff between two titles? How involved is kojima in the two, etc.. I thikn I'd rather just have one that is more polished than 2 that offer different experiences where none really feel super great That said if it's a Vita game I'll never know if I'll hate it because who the fuck is gonna buy a psvita, that game is gonna get like sub 20k sales if it releases on that failure of a system LEL |
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| SolidLiquid | Dec 8 2012, 10:57 PM Post #84 |
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| baldgye | Dec 8 2012, 10:59 PM Post #85 |
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becasue its a trailer for a game with no dev team, and basically a pre-tense for teasing a diffrent game. Talking about how it was scripted is as redundant as talking about how poor the scripted teaser/annoucement for MGS4 was when Snake and Raiden where fighting over the role of director of MGS4.... |
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| SolidLiquid | Dec 8 2012, 10:59 PM Post #86 |
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Although, I really hope PP isn't a Vita game. I really want this and GZ to be the same game. |
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| baldgye | Dec 8 2012, 11:00 PM Post #87 |
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Why? Vita seems like a nice system that simply lacks games, if there was a brand new and fucking epic looking MGS title on it and the Vita isnt as god awful to play as the PSP then it seems fine to me. Gives me a reason to own a vita, which seems kinda awesome now it has PSN+ support agreed Edited by baldgye, Dec 8 2012, 11:01 PM.
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| Nyxus | Dec 8 2012, 11:01 PM Post #88 |
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Still, I think MGS is better suited for home consoles, being such a cinematic game. It might be playable on the Vita though, with transfarring and all. |
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| baldgye | Dec 8 2012, 11:03 PM Post #89 |
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yeah it dsnt look like it would be suited to a portable system, if that teaser is anything to go by on its mood, but it could work, the Vita is a very capable system techincally |
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| Hoss | Dec 8 2012, 11:04 PM Post #90 |
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IT BETTER NOT BE ON A SYSTEM I DON'T WANT SINCE IT'S COOL TO HATE THINGS I DON'T HAVE! |
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| Nyxus | Dec 8 2012, 11:04 PM Post #91 |
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@ baldgye: Yeah, no doubt. But I don't see Kojima developing a Vita exclusive game at least. He seems pretty multiplatform focused, with the Fox Engine.
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| baldgye | Dec 8 2012, 11:07 PM Post #92 |
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MGS:PW I'm sure he is, but PW showed that Konami is more than willing to essentially give Sony an exclsuive to a portable system for a limited time-frame anyway, I'm sure Kojima never intended on making MGS5-MGSPW a PSP title, and instead was pitched to him from Konami after Sony made it worth there while. But yeah I hope/think this is probally more GZ's or maybe a second part of GZ's... or maybe they are both 'experiments' now that the current gen hardware is so well optmised as to what they could possibly do next gen... |
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| Zuben | Dec 8 2012, 11:08 PM Post #93 |
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Mgs5 for hom consoles and "filler" games for the handhelds is what I support. PW was awesome. |
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| Nyxus | Dec 8 2012, 11:08 PM Post #94 |
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But PW was before the Fox Engine, and during development he also said he felt limited by the PSP's capabilities. |
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| Hoss | Dec 8 2012, 11:09 PM Post #95 |
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'sides, If this is a Vita game, holy shit... that's a beautiful handheld game. |
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| Nyxus | Dec 8 2012, 11:09 PM Post #96 |
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True, and then I would have to buy a Vita. 
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| baldgye | Dec 8 2012, 11:11 PM Post #97 |
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yeah, which is why I think that it wasn't really down to him and was purly down to sony giving konami money for an exclusive mgs title Someone on neogaf posted an old video from when the vita was the NGP (?) with kojima showing a build of MGS4 running on the hardware, to simply show off how powerful it would be when it came out. It looked good too, so imagine what you could do with a properly optimised engine for it ? You could make some pretty shit Edited by baldgye, Dec 8 2012, 11:12 PM.
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| SolidLiquid | Dec 8 2012, 11:13 PM Post #98 |
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I don't want this on Vita, but if it does end up being a Vita game, I will buy one for sure. It looks way too awesome. Plus, like you guys said, if the game looked like this on Vita, it's a must buy. My main concern really is PP and GZ being the same game....hopefully. Edited by SolidLiquid, Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM.
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| baldgye | Dec 8 2012, 11:17 PM Post #99 |
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I own a MGS:PW [jp] PSP, so its pretty clear I don't care about buying an over-priced LE system for a single game... hurrr |
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| Cartman | Dec 8 2012, 11:19 PM Post #100 |
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That was a cutscene this was actual gameplay. Kojima has been talking about the whole trimming down of cutscenes hasn't he? I don't like cinematic gameplay because it's shit to be quite frank, I'd rather have loads of cutscenes and leave the gameplay up to me instead of being pushed along a path as linear as it possibly can get every time the story wants to treat us with something "cinematic" I'm not "playing" a game when I'm watching it doing everything for me, that is not interesting or captivating gameplay. MGS4 might not look great in motion compared Uncharted but it's gameplay sure is leaps ahead of it (note that this isn't me saying good animations are shit, that's something I want improved but just generally uncharted 2 with all the smooth transitions for the "craaaaazzzzzy shenanigans" that look good watching it but serve fucking zero value as actual gameplay) If they wanna use heavily scripted in-game moments at some extent, that's perfectly fine, I'm for it as long as it's done with taste, and used sparingly. Take the microwave from MGS4, that was fucking awesome, would it have been as special if that game had cinematic in-game moments like that used every fucking 10 minutes? nope. I'm really not hating on this, I'm just being forced to type this out in detail because I'm getting bashed for hating on something that's perfectly reasonable to dislike.. the game has just been shown, there's nothing telling us that the rest of the game will play like this, it was just a small concern I stated that blew up, that's all this is |
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