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The Phantom Pain; Metal Gear Solid V?
Topic Started: Dec 8 2012, 07:22 AM (8,887 Views)
Hoss	Dec 8 2012, 11:21 PM Post #101
One and Only Posts: 5,448 Group: Admins Member #11 Joined: Jan 23, 2012	HATING AS FUCK!



SolidLiquid	Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM Post #102
Legendary Mercenary Posts: 1,511 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	Also, you notice how skinny BB (if it's MGS) looks in this trailer? I mean, it makes sense. If he's been in a coma for a long time, he can lose a lot of weight and muscle tone. I just want to know what the fuck is going on.



baldgye	Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM Post #103
BANNED Posts: -8,383,597 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:19 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 10:59 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 10:56 PM Scotia Dec 8 2012, 10:48 PM Carty's gon' hate it anyway. :p why are people so offended because I find "cinematic gameplay" to be fucking horrible becasue its a trailer for a game with no dev team, and basically a pre-tense for teasing a diffrent game. Talking about how it was scripted is as redundant as talking about how poor the scripted teaser/annoucement for MGS4 was when Snake and Raiden where fighting over the role of director of MGS4.... That was a cutscene this was actual gameplay. Game play from what? How can you call it out as being gameplay, when you have no-clue what it is you even watched, let alone then being able to call out gameplay from scripted events... Really cartman you need to think about what it is your talking about, and no that was totally gameplay when Snake ran to the directors chair, to be confronted by Raiden.
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Nyxus	Dec 8 2012, 11:23 PM Post #104
Administrator Posts: 4,413 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:19 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 10:59 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 10:56 PM Scotia Dec 8 2012, 10:48 PM Carty's gon' hate it anyway. :p why are people so offended because I find "cinematic gameplay" to be fucking horrible becasue its a trailer for a game with no dev team, and basically a pre-tense for teasing a diffrent game. Talking about how it was scripted is as redundant as talking about how poor the scripted teaser/annoucement for MGS4 was when Snake and Raiden where fighting over the role of director of MGS4.... That was a cutscene this was actual gameplay. Kojima has been talking about the whole trimming down of cutscenes hasn't he? I don't like cinematic gameplay because it's shit to be quite frank, I'd rather have loads of cutscenes and leave the gameplay up to me instead of being pushed along a path as linear as it possibly can get every time the story wants to treat us with something "cinematic" I'm not "playing" a game when I'm watching it doing everything for me, that is not interesting or captivating gameplay. MGS4 might not look great in motion compared Uncharted but it's gameplay sure is leaps ahead of it (note that this isn't me saying good animations are shit, that's something I want improved but just generally uncharted 2 with all the smooth transitions for the "craaaaazzzzzy shenanigans" that look good watching it but serve fucking zero value as actual gameplay) If they wanna use heavily scripted in-game moments at some extent, that's perfectly fine, I'm for it as long as it's done with taste, and used sparingly. Take the microwave from MGS4, that was fucking awesome, would it have been as special if that game had cinematic in-game moments like that used every fucking 10 minutes? nope. I'm really not hating on this, I'm just being forced to type this out in detail because I'm getting bashed for hating on something that's perfectly reasonable to dislike.. the game has just been shown, there's nothing telling us that the rest of the game will play like this, it was just a small concern I stated that blew up, that's all this is Yeah I wouldn't worry about that. This trailer seems to be cut up, if it even is actual gameplay that is going to be in the game, and besides, this is a hallucinatory sequence that's probably not indicative of the rest of the game. Kojima doesn't seem like a developer that follows trends and it doesn't seem like his style to make an Uncharted-like game, so I doubt that will happen. Besides, assuming GZ and this are the same game, we have already seen the gameplay isn't like that.



Cartman	Dec 8 2012, 11:23 PM Post #105
Negative Nancy Posts: 844 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	Scotia Dec 8 2012, 11:21 PM HATING AS FUCK!



baldgye	Dec 8 2012, 11:23 PM Post #106
BANNED Posts: -8,383,597 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Scotia Dec 8 2012, 11:21 PM HATING AS FUCK! He's not hating, he's just making wild assumptions based on next to nothing and then making out like its a fact...
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Nyxus	Dec 8 2012, 11:24 PM Post #107
Administrator Posts: 4,413 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	SolidLiquid Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM Also, you notice how skinny BB (if it's MGS) looks in this trailer? I mean, it makes sense. If he's been in a coma for a long time, he can lose a lot of weight and muscle tone. I just want to know what the fuck is going on. Yeah, the coma could explain that, he does look a lot less muscular than in PW.



baldgye	Dec 8 2012, 11:24 PM Post #108
BANNED Posts: -8,383,597 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	SolidLiquid Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM Also, you notice how skinny BB (if it's MGS) looks in this trailer? I mean, it makes sense. If he's been in a coma for a long time, he can lose a lot of weight and muscle tone. I just want to know what the fuck is going on. E3 should be crazy as balls next year
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Cartman	Dec 8 2012, 11:24 PM Post #109
Negative Nancy Posts: 844 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	baldgye Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:19 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 10:59 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 10:56 PM Scotia Dec 8 2012, 10:48 PM Carty's gon' hate it anyway. :p why are people so offended because I find "cinematic gameplay" to be fucking horrible becasue its a trailer for a game with no dev team, and basically a pre-tense for teasing a diffrent game. Talking about how it was scripted is as redundant as talking about how poor the scripted teaser/annoucement for MGS4 was when Snake and Raiden where fighting over the role of director of MGS4.... That was a cutscene this was actual gameplay. Game play from what? How can you call it out as being gameplay, when you have no-clue what it is you even watched, let alone then being able to call out gameplay from scripted events... Really cartman you need to think about what it is your talking about, and no that was totally gameplay when Snake ran to the directors chair, to be confronted by Raiden. the guy on stage said that it was 100% gameplay the entire demo before it was shown and lol no it was not, the only gameplay bit from the mgs4 trailer that used the mgs3 engine was when Snake shot everyone sitting in the chairs, rest of it was pretty much borrowed mocap from the mgs3 cutscenes Edited by Cartman, Dec 8 2012, 11:27 PM.



Zuben	Dec 8 2012, 11:25 PM Post #110
Virgin Posts: 809 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	I bought PSP for Portable Ops back in the day, so this would be a system seller for me for sure.
	WHOOOOOOOOOO


Hoss	Dec 8 2012, 11:25 PM Post #111
One and Only Posts: 5,448 Group: Admins Member #11 Joined: Jan 23, 2012	FUCK! THAT'S GAMEPLAY I DUN LIKE IT! SHIT! MGS! Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:24 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:19 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 10:59 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 10:56 PM Scotia Dec 8 2012, 10:48 PM Carty's gon' hate it anyway. :p why are people so offended because I find "cinematic gameplay" to be fucking horrible becasue its a trailer for a game with no dev team, and basically a pre-tense for teasing a diffrent game. Talking about how it was scripted is as redundant as talking about how poor the scripted teaser/annoucement for MGS4 was when Snake and Raiden where fighting over the role of director of MGS4.... That was a cutscene this was actual gameplay. Game play from what? How can you call it out as being gameplay, when you have no-clue what it is you even watched, let alone then being able to call out gameplay from scripted events... Really cartman you need to think about what it is your talking about, and no that was totally gameplay when Snake ran to the directors chair, to be confronted by Raiden. the guy on stage said that it was 100% gameplay the entire demo before it was shown Nigga do you know how many devs say this shit? Please... I've worked in the game industry for a solid 6 years (trufax) I know how PR goes. Edited by Hoss, Dec 8 2012, 11:25 PM.



Nyxus	Dec 8 2012, 11:25 PM Post #112
Administrator Posts: 4,413 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:24 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:19 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 10:59 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 10:56 PM Scotia Dec 8 2012, 10:48 PM Carty's gon' hate it anyway. :p why are people so offended because I find "cinematic gameplay" to be fucking horrible becasue its a trailer for a game with no dev team, and basically a pre-tense for teasing a diffrent game. Talking about how it was scripted is as redundant as talking about how poor the scripted teaser/annoucement for MGS4 was when Snake and Raiden where fighting over the role of director of MGS4.... That was a cutscene this was actual gameplay. Game play from what? How can you call it out as being gameplay, when you have no-clue what it is you even watched, let alone then being able to call out gameplay from scripted events... Really cartman you need to think about what it is your talking about, and no that was totally gameplay when Snake ran to the directors chair, to be confronted by Raiden. the guy on stage said that it was 100% gameplay the entire demo before it was shown He just means ingame graphics, as opposed to pre-rendered.



baldgye	Dec 8 2012, 11:26 PM Post #113
BANNED Posts: -8,383,597 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:24 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 11:22 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:19 PM baldgye Dec 8 2012, 10:59 PM Cartman Dec 8 2012, 10:56 PM Scotia Dec 8 2012, 10:48 PM Carty's gon' hate it anyway. :p why are people so offended because I find "cinematic gameplay" to be fucking horrible becasue its a trailer for a game with no dev team, and basically a pre-tense for teasing a diffrent game. Talking about how it was scripted is as redundant as talking about how poor the scripted teaser/annoucement for MGS4 was when Snake and Raiden where fighting over the role of director of MGS4.... That was a cutscene this was actual gameplay. Game play from what? How can you call it out as being gameplay, when you have no-clue what it is you even watched, let alone then being able to call out gameplay from scripted events... Really cartman you need to think about what it is your talking about, and no that was totally gameplay when Snake ran to the directors chair, to be confronted by Raiden. the guy on stage said that it was 100% gameplay the entire demo before it was shown Was that from the same tele-promt that didn't know Gabe's name ?
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SolidLiquid	Dec 8 2012, 11:26 PM Post #114
Legendary Mercenary Posts: 1,511 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	Pretty sure I'm getting a Vita anyway. My lady asked me what I wanted for Christmas, a Vita was on there. The only reason I don't want this on Vita, is because I want this game to be at it's full potential. Vita is a pretty incredible handheld system with amazing technology behind it, but I still don't want this game to be a portable game.



baldgye	Dec 8 2012, 11:26 PM Post #115
BANNED Posts: -8,383,597 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Zuben Dec 8 2012, 11:25 PM I bought PSP for Portable Ops back in the day, so this would be a system seller for me for sure. oh jeezzz I feel bad for you son lol
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Hoss	Dec 8 2012, 11:27 PM Post #116
One and Only Posts: 5,448 Group: Admins Member #11 Joined: Jan 23, 2012	>Buying a PSP for PO. Turrible.



Cartman	Dec 8 2012, 11:29 PM Post #117
Negative Nancy Posts: 844 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	>this thread The guy said 100% GAMEPLAY though, when devs say they're showing game footage they say either "in-game" or "in-engine" are you seriously telling me that the footage shown in this trailer looked anywhere near the same as the cutscenes in the Ground Zeroes trailer? No this looked different, this looked like actual gameplay, albeit extremely scripted, some parts of it did look like they were cutscenes though but a lot of it looked like it was footage from the actual gameplay



baldgye	Dec 8 2012, 11:32 PM Post #118
BANNED Posts: -8,383,597 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:29 PM >this thread The guy said 100% GAMEPLAY though, when devs say they're showing game footage they say either "in-game" or "in-engine" are you seriously telling me that the footage shown in this trailer looked anywhere near the same as the cutscenes in the Ground Zeroes trailer? No this looked different, this looked like actual gameplay, albeit extremely scripted, some parts of it did look like they were cutscenes though but a lot of it looked like it was footage from the actual gameplay I don't know what your talking about, given that the person writing the telepromt didn't even know the name of the guy who they handed the greatest game of the decade too, it's a safe assumption to make that by 'gameplay' he meant in engine, becasue why would it be gameplay? It would make no sense to make it gameplay, BECASUE ITS A FUCKING TEASER TRAILER WHY BOTHER WASTING TIME MAKING SURE YOU HAVE A PERFET RUN WHEN YOU CAN JUST PROGRAM IT....... It looked graphically almost identical to GZ's in every way, the diffrence, IT WAS FUCKING RAINING IN GZ'S.... NOT ONLY THAT BUT WHEN THE GZ'S 'CUT-SCENE' FINISHED IT WHEN STRAIGHT INTO GAMEPLAY WITHOUT A CUT OR CHANGE OF ENGINE/VIDEO FEED ITS ALL THE FUCKING SAME Edited by baldgye, Dec 8 2012, 11:32 PM.
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Hoss	Dec 8 2012, 11:33 PM Post #119
One and Only Posts: 5,448 Group: Admins Member #11 Joined: Jan 23, 2012	Cartman Dec 8 2012, 11:29 PM >this thread The guy said 100% GAMEPLAY though, when devs say they're showing game footage they say either "in-game" or "in-engine" are you seriously telling me that the footage shown in this trailer looked anywhere near the same as the cutscenes in the Ground Zeroes trailer? No this looked different, this looked like actual gameplay, albeit extremely scripted, some parts of it did look like they were cutscenes though but a lot of it looked like it was footage from the actual gameplay No, but what I'm telling you is ''100% gameplay'' is a coined phrase to catch attention, I would know. And games change, man, gameplay could change, etc. You just never know. I DO, however, know you are getting dem high hopes without really knowing what is going on, much like what Pete said. And I'm not saying it's NOT gameplay, but I do know to be cautious, and not be a sucker for things being said just because I'm hopeful. Edited by Hoss, Dec 8 2012, 11:35 PM.



SolidLiquid	Dec 8 2012, 11:37 PM Post #120
Legendary Mercenary Posts: 1,511 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	Scotia Dec 8 2012, 11:27 PM >Buying a PSP for PO. Turrible. Definitely had a PSP before MGS:PO came out. Definitely not a game I'd pay a whole system for.



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