Golgari

Sep 21 2013, 08:43 PM

It's Metal Gear at it's finest but much better

Golgari

Sep 21 2013, 09:23 PM

and btw. I don't understand why people don't talk about this fantastic thing. It is probably the best thing right now.

The fact that it is open world and enemies will not disappear after they were knocked out

Golgari

Sep 21 2013, 09:23 PM

This is a very hard thing to do because it requires a lot of memory on consoles.

baldgye

Sep 21 2013, 08:07 PM

Why?

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Which is why it won't happen. They say it happens now, but I guarantee once it comes out, that won't be the case.

Golgari

Sep 22 2013, 01:56 AM

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Which is why it won't happen. They say it happens now, but I guarantee once it comes out, that won't be the case.

Actually nope. The demo already showed us that enemies won't disappear. In the first demo Big Boss knocked off two guards and after that he hid them in the grass. By the end of the demo player showed us iDroid where you could see the map from the satellite view and these 2 "marked" guards were still in the grass.

Nyxus

Sep 22 2013, 02:09 AM

Scotia do you think it's possible for these bodies to stay in the PS4 version?

Scotia

Sep 22 2013, 02:05 AM

Golgari

Sep 22 2013, 01:56 AM

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Which is why it won't happen. They say it happens now, but I guarantee once it comes out, that won't be the case.

Actually nope. The demo already showed us that enemies won't disappear. In the first demo Big Boss knocked off two guards and after that he hid them in the grass. By the end of the demo player showed us iDroid where you could see the map from the satellite view and these 2 "marked" guards were still in the grass.

You make it sound like the demo was hours and hours and hours long... I'm not gonna sit and talk to someone who instantly shoots down anything with ''Actually nope.'' as if they've come in contact with the final version of the game. I'm speaking strictly on terms of how games have been... forever. You're speaking on terms of things you've been told by a company trying to sell a product.

If it's running on current consoles, bodies will disappear eventually. No games currently keep bodies on the map at all times, and most certainly no open world games, so MGSV/PP isn't going to be an exception. But you can believe that PR if you want.

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If it's running on current consoles, bodies will disappear eventually. No games currently keep bodies on the map at all times and most certainly no open world games

Golgari

Sep 22 2013, 02:26 AM

Scotia

Sep 22 2013, 02:05 AM

Golgari

Sep 22 2013, 01:56 AM

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Which is why it won't happen. They say it happens now, but I guarantee once it comes out, that won't be the case.

Actually nope. The demo already showed us that enemies won't disappear. In the first demo Big Boss knocked off two guards and after that he hid them in the grass. By the end of the demo player showed us iDroid where you could see the map from the satellite view and these 2 "marked" guards were still in the grass.

You make it sound like the demo was hours and hours and hours long... I'm not gonna sit and talk to someone who instantly shoots down anything with ''Actually nope.'' as if they've come in contact with the final version of the game. I'm speaking strictly on terms of how games have been... forever. You're speaking on terms of things you've been told by a company trying to sell a product.

If it's running on current consoles, bodies will disappear eventually. No games currently keep bodies on the map at all times, and most certainly no open world games, so MGSV/PP isn't going to be an exception. But you can believe that PR if you want.

Dear Scotia, I don't believe in "that" PR. I'm just talking about what I saw.

+ it does not matter how much hours or minutes the demo was. To understand how the system works with memory and bodies you need to understand how Random Access-Memory actually works first of all. Kojima showed us that it is possible for a mission to have bodies that don't disappear.

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If it's running on current consoles, bodies will disappear eventually. No games currently keep bodies on the map at all times and most certainly no open world games

Not true at all. There are some games that keep bodies in current gen games (Deus Ex:HR for example). It depends on the scale of the game. It is enough to keep bodies for some time for that mission. Also, I don't expect to keep bodies on the map all the time in the open-world game. It is impossible to do for many reasons but for a mission... Why not?

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Actually, bodies in DE:HR disappear eventually, as well, if you wait around long enough. And I know how RAM works, very much so.

You're skipping over a keyword I'm using. ''Eventually''. And for someone who doesn't ''believe'' in that PR, you sure are being stone footed about not accepting that there's a possibility things but change, and or not be exactly as we're told. Even on a single mission, if there is a high enough body count going on, the game will do something to reduce processing and RAM usage, it's either going to be utilizing a huge LOD pit, or it's going to take models away from the world to free up memory. it's as simple as that. This becomes more apparent in games that are utilizing processor and RAM heavy visuals as well, like MGSV is.

Scotia

Sep 22 2013, 01:41 AM

Golgari

Sep 21 2013, 09:23 PM

This is a very hard thing to do because it requires a lot of memory on consoles.

Which is why it won't happen. They say it happens now, but I guarantee once it comes out, that won't be the case.

baldgye

Sep 21 2013, 08:07 PM

Why?

You sure you want me to explain? :p

Nyxus

Sep 22 2013, 12:57 PM

exclamation mark almost did not.