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| baldgye | Jun 12 2013, 04:27 PM Post #121 |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 04:28 PM Post #122 |
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What did you guys think of the Dark Sorcerer video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BqeuHGESZBA |
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| Hoss | Jun 12 2013, 04:31 PM Post #123 |
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And yeah I understand, but you need to look at it from a point of view that Sony needs to charge SOMETHING to turn a profit. Just because a company sells product doesn't mean they turn a profit. Business doesn't work that way. Unless they sell an absolute fuckton of them over time. That is how every product is... most things sell for more than they cost to produce, that doesn't mean they will turn a profit. R&D cost will play into it for a while. So they won't make a profit on it for a while yet. There's also the marketing budget and stuff to consider as well. $5 is more than reasonable. |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 04:42 PM Post #124 |
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Do you think Xbox Live Gold is reasonable? Or is Plus reasonable also because of the bonuses, such as free games and discounts? |
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| Hoss | Jun 12 2013, 04:46 PM Post #125 |
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Hell no Live isn't reasonable, simply because it's $50. They STILL throw ads in your face and all kinds of shit. I get all that minus the ads, plus free stuff, for $5. And I said it was reasonable simply because they need to turn a profit on a NEW console launch. It might take a few months or a year but they'll make profit from it (a profit turn, for development costs) soon enough which is why it's understandable for them to charge for online. Sony gives out free shit way too often for their own good, this helps cushion the blow a little bit. |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 04:50 PM Post #126 |
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Oh yeah, Live has ads, I forgot about that. That's really crazy for a paid service. |
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| Hoss | Jun 12 2013, 05:36 PM Post #127 |
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I don't think KI will stay exclusive long. It's gonna be at EVO, for one. A fighter restricted to a single console limits the audience, on top of the console restrictions that no one likes. This hurts tourney play on general, and the dev WANTS KI to be tourney material. Won't happen if it's exclusive. If they run it at EVO, all the Xbox ones have to be synced and set up properly every day to bypass the online drm. That's no bueno. And you can only have one gamer tag per game, the drm, so every single player competing at EVO will need to bring their console OR a flash stick and even then it's a problem. Stuff needs to change. I feel it'll eventually be multiplat before the next EVO, next year. At least 10 player owned Xbox ones are gonna be required. That's fail. PLUS for the console to even work... Kinect is required to be on. That's fail too.
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| baldgye | Jun 12 2013, 05:39 PM Post #128 |
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But for all that to happen... wouldn't it need to be a good game? |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 05:54 PM Post #129 |
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But isn't the ip owned by Rare, and therefor, Microsoft? |
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| Hoss | Jun 12 2013, 05:57 PM Post #130 |
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Afaik it isn't owned by Rare anymore, they aren't even making it. It's made by the people that made Battleship, and Silent Hill Homecoming. |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 06:01 PM Post #131 |
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Oh boy. I'm getting ready to be torn apart by Scotia and baldgye, but those Wii U and 3DS titles shown at E3 look awesome. Edited by Nyxus, Jun 12 2013, 09:39 PM.
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| Hoss | Jun 12 2013, 09:42 PM Post #132 |
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http://www.xboxdone.com @Nyx: Agreed. |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 09:45 PM Post #133 |
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Do you think Microsoft paid so that Sony couldn't show MGSV at their conference? It was strange it was completely missing, not even in a montage, even though it was just confirmed for PS4 this E3. |
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| Matieo | Jun 12 2013, 10:09 PM Post #134 |
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I don't think there was any one game that both conferences showed off. And considering how many multi-platforms titles there were, it seemed like they both met up and drew names out of a hat before hand. I mean, Microsoft had Battlefield 4 at theirs, which is weird, because Sony has exclusivity on that if I remember correctly. |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 10:14 PM Post #135 |
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Yes, but this is such a high profile title. And not only that, this is Metal Gear, often associated with the PlayStation brand, and the numbered sequel to one of the biggest PS3 exclusives. |
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| Hoss | Jun 12 2013, 10:17 PM Post #136 |
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Tbh I don't see why it matters, really. |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 10:19 PM Post #137 |
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Not much, I was just wondering. |
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| baldgye | Jun 12 2013, 11:06 PM Post #138 |
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Probably why they didn't bother to show it, like the MGR stuff last e3. Microsoft isn't the platform for Metal Gear titles so when there is a new one that's multi-plat they have to remind everyone that its coming to there system too... ..and no hate for liking and being excited for Nintendo games that where shown X looks kinda cool and the rest are mostly the same old Nintendo stuff... just more the fact you have a WiiU and no games to play it.. not even ones from Nintendo  also  lolxbone Edited by baldgye, Jun 12 2013, 11:07 PM.
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| Matieo | Jun 12 2013, 11:07 PM Post #139 |
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That's been on my mind lately, how high profile MGS is anymore to the masses, who often enjoy annual or bi-annual iterations of their favourite games. Every time I see someone say something along the lines of Thief [or Dishonored even] is the king of stealth games, I dunno, I kinda take it to heart, because it seems like such an asinine and uneducated thing to say, when to me Metal Gear is head and shoulders above every other game in the genre. I honestly just wanna ask them, yo, are you seriously fuckin' retarded? Could be blatant bias from PC gamers that are under the impression first-person games are the be all and end all of genres. I've played both those series, personally, and I know everyone has their preferences, but from just juxtaposing what kind of gameplay advantages each offers, how do they not even consider MGS in the discussion half the time. One of the most baffling things to me in recent memory. Anyways. It has nothing to do with should MGSV have been at Sony's or not. Each conference had it's unique showcase of games, despite most of them not being entirely exclusive. I don't believe any exceptions were made. Off-Topic: Troy Baker seems to have really nailed the Joker in that Batman: Arkham Origins trailer. Impressive. |
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| Nyxus | Jun 12 2013, 11:11 PM Post #140 |
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MGS might not sell numbers like something like Call of Duty or even Halo, but it's still a million seller. It's impressive MGS4 sold over 5 million copies while being on just one system. So I think it's still pretty big in general, it must be to sell like that. But yeah, it's mainly a series for core gamers I guess.How can the PS4 be so small? Edited by Nyxus, Jun 12 2013, 11:12 PM.
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