A long-awaited follow-up: NationStates' own 007 speaks at lastExpansion from http://nsnews.blogspot.com/2004_11_01_nsnews_archive.html.In November of 2004, INSN published our first breaking news story about an undercover ADN agent that had worked his way up the invader payscale into the position of CDi Vice President. Since CDI/Empire Vice President an ADN Spy! was published, INSN has been breathlessly awaiting the response to our interview questions sent to this elusive secret agent. Earlier this week, 1838 made another stealthy appearance in our newsroom, and finished telling us his story of intrigue, double-identity, deep-cover operations, betrayal, reconciliation, and honorable success as NationStates' own 007.
Clark: Thank you for agreeing to this interview, Agent 1838. I understand that you are taking great risks speaking to us, and the public and INSN appreciate your willingness to share your story with us.
1838: I am glad to be able to share the truth with the public.
Clark: Well then, why don't we start from the beginning. What is your home region?
1838: Nasicournia & Atlantica 2 & The Pacific.
Clark: I've been wondering about something for awhile now. What does 1838 mean, and was this your first nation?
1838: The year 1838 started a period of major non-black immigration to the former British West Indies; slavery ended four years earlier. 1838 is the second nation I made in the game.
Clark: Interesting choice of name for an intelligence operative. Now, some harder questions. Let's start with the beginnings of your invader career. When did your interest in invading begin?
1838: I was active in invasions since approximately mid-January of 2004. This continued until June 7th, 2004. So I was a military invader for around six months.
Clark: Your roots are in invading; this must help you in your new career as a defender. I understand you worked for Cosmo Kramerica nearly right away?
1838: Yes, I started working for Cosmo Kramerica in late November of 2003. I worked for him until Halloween weekend: October 29, 2004. Consequently I worked for the CDi/Empire until the same weekend.
Clark: Thank you for this background information, agent. So, tell me if you feel comfortable divulging this information...when exactly did you turn defender?
1838: I started to Help Defenders in late July 2004 by gathering proof that there was a spy in the region of Alcatraz--the nation of 74LS122, which was still a member of the ADN at the time. I showed Pope Hope the proof on August 19th. As a result of this, Pope Hope asked me if I came across any more info that would be useful to the ADN to pass it on. I started to go on defence missions in September of 2004.
Clark: What made you decide to become a defender, and who knew about this switch? I understand if you cannot answer this question.
1838: I found that I started to identify with defenders more. My first contact with defenders was with the ADN from April 8th to June 7th 2004. I had infiltrated Alcatraz while spying on them for Kramerica (CDI/The_Empire did not come into being until mid May). While spying on the ADN I made a bad judgement call and was part of the now dead Freedom Alliance (FA) invasion of the Atlantic in the third week of April 2004 with my ADN UN nation, so I offered to turn intelligence on FA for the ADN so I could remain in the ADN.
Since I had only part of the forum just over three weeks, there was no way I was going to be allowed access to the ADN Intel forums. So a sub-forum was made for me in Sector5 (An Alcatraz only area of the old A.D.N. Board/Forum). The sub-forum was named S5IA. This later became known to the NS world as the secret Alcatraz only forum where the Alcatraz attack on Ireland was planned. Now you its name, and how and why it came into being. I spent quite a bit of time in there making Intel reports on the FA for A.D.N.
How Big Was S5IA? 17 out of 19 topics were started by me, 215 of 240 posts were mine, and I had 114 out of 122 posts on the longest topic in the forum. This is only for the period of time between April 25th to June 7th of 2004.
I spent so much trying to fit in so no one would suspect I was an invader spy that there were times I almost forgot about being an invader. I did manage to fool some people though I am not able to guess at a percentage. I took part in at least 20 defence missions, as an invader I took part in around ten invasions. As a result of this I moved in my mind almost 60% of the way between Invader & Defender. The two people who knew about my switch were moishe & Pope Hope of Nasicournia in August when I had made up mind, and in the second half of September Pope Hope informed CrazyGirl & Unistrut.
Clark: You seem to record everything very precisely. I can only imagine the damage you were able to do against invaders once you turned. Please describe the kind of information you were able to obtain while working undercover against invaders in the ADN.
1838: In no particular order, I informed the ADN of a planned Alliance of Imperials attack on Greece near the beginning of September 2004--Greece was still an ADN member at the time. I kept close tabs on the Central Invaders Intelligence Agency (C.I.I.A.), an attempt by invaders to have centralised Intel org for major invader regions. Established by Domination6 of Invaders, I took lists of potential invasion targets, and also exposed Ohio State Buckeyes in his attempt to infiltrate Alcatraz around August 23rd, 2004. In August of 2004 I informed the ADN that chessalavakia pretended to go defender in order to spy on defenders.
After the Outworld interview where he insulted Pope Hope, JediMaster came up with a plan to try and run Outworld out of AoI. By having fake farewell chat with OW in attendance as well, Jedi planed to fake leaving NS sometime after this he planed to get some people to crash AoI, Jedi would then come in with a nation no one had seen before with a hand picked group of people to liberate AoI. He also planed to fake defecting to the A.D.N. to spy on them. OutWorld never showed up to that chat and JediMaster could not find enough people to help with the strike on AoI. All of this was provided to the ADN.
Also there was a planned attack on The Rejected Realms by means of ejections from other regions scheduled for October 31st, 2004 (same Halloween weekend). The plan was to get as many as possible invaders and anti-A.D.N. players to invade many regions at one time and then let themselves be sent to The Rejected Realms. Eventually defenders would put two and two together during the multiple invasions and they would have to stop sending invaders to the Rejected Realms. But if they did that the invaders would be able to keep the regions they had taken.
Also as a distraction a fake run on Alcatraz was planned, but none of this happened because not enough people signed on. The plan called for a staging region were some of the invaders would set from but some invader leaders did not like having nations that applied to the UN and nations that could go on invasions waiting in a staging region for several days.
Clark: It seems that thanks to you, the defender community knew all of the invader plans. How did the defender community react when they learned 1838 was one of their very own?
1838: Good. When news broke I was personally thanked by 17 people including 14 or 15 members of the A.D.N. and also visiting diplomats on the A.D.N. board, as well as Grub of TITO via game telegram. Pope Hope, CrazyGirl, Fire People, Ananke, Hrmmm, Maniaca, Nucleo, Joop, Gabriels Fountain, Ceaser, Monte Ozarka, Unistrut, rotcjagman, Defaultia, and henneth annun were among them.
Clark: Without jeopardizing any undercover operations you may currently have going on, can you tell us what you are up to now that you are no longer spying on The Empire? Are you undercover? Defending in a military fashion?
1838: Currently I am defending; helping out with NasiCorps (the Regional Army of Nasicournia). Yes I am back undercover. Also I am trying to get the region of Atlantica 2 active.
Clark: How high in The Empire government did you get before you were uncovered, and how did you accomplish such a feat?
1838: I reached the position Vice President when we went by CDI & Vice Imperial Chancellor as the current The Empire, and I was also their Global Moderator. I was the number two person in the organisation from the 24th of July 2004 until I was banned from The Empire Board/Forum. Well, I was one of the people who always had a level head in the CDI/The_Empire-- I did not give Cosmo Kramerica a hard time but I was not a suck up. I did not impose my opinion on anyone, when Cosmo Kramerica asked me for my opinion I gave him it.
Clark: How did The Empire finally discover you were a defender spy?
1838: Cosmo Kramerica had a puppet in the region of Atlantica name Defender of the faith and at the time it had been a while since an active nation was in the region for awhile. Defender of the faith showed interest getting the region active. That caused me to let my guard down too much. I let him see some of the Intel reports I had written for Atlantica when it was semi active. Cosmo recognised my writing style. Also I let slip that I was an invader but had switched sides, and that my invader organisation had no idea.
Clark: What do you think about the denials made by The Empire and other invader groups such as The DEN when our story broke?
1838: Well The DEN loves to hear the sound of its own voice.
[1838 laughs a surprisingly friendly laugh]
But seriously, I thought that they would be big enough people to admit what had happened, after all the (A. D. N.) Alliance Defence Network did not behave in a similar or comparable fashion when Democratic Donkeys admitted to being an invader spy.
“What goes around comes around...” Invader spy makes it to the #3 position in a Defender organisation/region, A. D. N. Defender spy makes it to the #2 position in an Invader organisation/region through CDI/The_Empire_. The actions of the invaders are somewhat understandable when one of your very senior people turns out to be a spy (its embarrassing), but this is a game not Real Life. Fess up and move on, this scandal will not cost you your job.
They act as if there is one standard for them and one for everybody else; invaders get to lie but ALL others tell the truth.
Clark: Anything else you can add for our readers' curiosity would be very appreciated. Thank you for your time, Agent, and thank you for being so candid.
1838: I can add that the invaders deny me and try to rewrite history BUT if I was so insignificant why would I receive this TG...
The Kingdom of Defender of the Faith
Received: 64 days ago
So how’s life as a defender? I’m sure they gave you lots of praise and cookies and all sorts of flowery things and stuff. be warned, 1838, we haven’t forgotten about your crimes >:) *queue scary music* mwahahahahahah!!!!!!!!! aaaaaahahahahahahah!!!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
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Cosmo Kramerica lists the date he found out I was a spy as one month AFTER it happened (see how mad I made him...). From: the website of Kramerica:http://www.freewebs.com/kramerica/
Welcome
Welcome to the regional website of Kramerica. Here you can find news
and information about the region. Current regional population: 50
Latest News: November 27/04
2:57 AM EST - The Kramerican government has dwindled
from inactivity and ministers ceasing to exist. 1838 (The Singular) has betrayed
Kramerica at the highest level by desecrating everything Kramerica has worked
for after all that was given him. 1838 has been stripped of his awards and his
position of Governor General and Intel Minister, his actions were worse than the
schemes of Xenu; he has caused damage beyond measure.
The population of Kramerica has reached a one year low of 50 nations due to a slowdown in
recruiting efforts, though the population has now stabilized.
Kramerica celebrated Oktoberfest last month and festivities were grand with huge beer
production. The Soup Nazi has been given absolute power over Kramerican
citizens and may bypass the laws of Kramerica. Kramers Intern has been appointed Interior Minister.
After taking and reading this last bit of information laid out professionally in an organized format, I turned to make a last comment about the damning evidence against the invader claims that he has just provided me with. However, the chair he was sitting in was now empty. I looked around the room and 1838 was nowhere to be found. In the chair I found a note, thanking me for the interview.
Enemies of this agent beware, the mystery known as 1838 is on the prowl once again.