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The REAL first challenge is here
Topic Started: Apr 1 2014, 04:53 PM (483 Views)
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The voting process is inspired by Epic Struggle 1's Team Mango's "gladiator" strategy.

You will vote for a player on your team to be SAFE. The player with the majority of the votes is indeed safe. You will continue voting players to be safe (anyone who has been saved will continue to vote) until only 2 players per team are unsafe. Then, all 9 safe players will vote one of them out. You cannot vote for yourself at any time.

If there is a tie between majority vote-getters (and only majority), BOTH players will be safe. This rule will continue so long as at least 4 players remain on each team. If there is a majority tie with 3 players left, the one with the most previous votes to save will be saved.

ALL PLAYERS WHO HAVE ALREADY VOTED FOR THE "ORIGINAL" CHALLENGE, YOUR VOTES ARE WIPED AND YOU MUST VOTE AGAIN, THIS TIME FOR A PLAYER ON YOUR TEAM TO BE SAFE. We will be sending PMs to all players we've received prior votes from in order to ensure that they know what's going on.

PLEASE SEND YOUR VOTE VIA PM. In the event of an 11-way tie or any other attempt to break the game, a player will be eliminated at random... so you don't want to try that. YOU HAVE 24 HOURS TO MAKE YOUR FIRST VOTE. If you do not vote, you will receive a strike against you in this challenge. 3 strikes and you will be eliminated (Note: This rule applies to this challenge ONLY. Inactivity rules are subject to change. If you and (an)other player(s) on your team reach 3 strikes in the same voting round, the one with the fewest votes to save so far will be eliminated, and any tie in that respect will be broken by a random elimination)

Any votes that end in a majority early will start a new round for that team whenever we have the chance to announce it, so if one team has 5 people safe in the first round, their next round will run concurrently with other teams even if those other teams only had 1 person saved. Updates will be given on a team to team basis.

In the interest of not completely clogging our inboxes, teams Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, and Virgo should send their votes to ImTheMacheteGuy, and teams Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces (which now includes UrCa1988) should send their votes to la_mayonesa.



People who vote for Rob to be safe: Cody, Rad, Choco, Matt, Baruch
People who vote for Baruch to be safe: Finrod, Dream, Kefi, Kirbym, Rob
Edited by Choco, Apr 4 2014, 03:43 AM.
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Kirbymuncher
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Might have been a little hasty on that one :|
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Kefiroth
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I guess we should let Weezy back in.
>_>


It's still mandatory elimination, which means we're gonna have to axe Weezy anyway. I don't see a point in letting him back in if we're just going to take him out right away.

So assuming Weezy even participates and isn't eliminated by merit of not submitting a vote, we need to schedule a list of who we vote to save on what vote, such that Weezy is eliminated.
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Apr 1 2014, 05:03 PM
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I guess we should let Weezy back in.
>_>


It's still mandatory elimination, which means we're gonna have to axe Weezy anyway. I don't see a point in letting him back in if we're just going to take him out right away.

So assuming Weezy even participates and isn't eliminated by merit of not submitting a vote, we need to schedule a list of who we vote to save on what vote, such that Weezy is eliminated.
If he does want to play, why wouldn't we just play normally? Why make a list and artificially exclude him if everyone can just keep saving who they like most?
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Well, we already decided to vote him out, so this is just a prolonged way of doing that.

We don't want someone who knows they either are or were going to be the person voted out having access to this forum and spilling all of the great things we discuss.
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So does it matter who we vote for? I'd suggest going for a 2-2-2-2-2 tie to speed things up, but that might put a target on us.

And it's still early, but so far TES1>TES2. Pat yourself on the back, Dream.
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Cody11533
Apr 1 2014, 06:07 PM
I'd suggest going for a 2-2-2-2-2 tie to speed things up, but that might put a target on us.
i don't see why anyone would care at all
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Because you guys have got me over thinking things now.

Would you guys like to intentionally tie the vote to speed up our rounds?
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I'd like the 2-2-2-2-2 split, but I'm not the best at not looking suspicious, so I'll defer to other people's opinions.

If Weezy votes for one of the people who gets 2, then I guess we won't have sped it up though.
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Cody11533
Apr 1 2014, 06:07 PM
So does it matter who we vote for? I'd suggest going for a 2-2-2-2-2 tie to speed things up, but that might put a target on us.

And it's still early, but so far TES1>TES2. Pat yourself on the back, Dream.
Say what you want about Week 2, but the challenge did finish in 36 hours.
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Dreamwalker
Apr 1 2014, 06:30 PM
I'd like the 2-2-2-2-2 split, but I'm not the best at not looking suspicious, so I'll defer to other people's opinions.
this is best.
anyone wanna do the organizing?

i'd whip something up myself, but it's past 3 am and i'm half asleep
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Dreamwalker
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I'm fine not being in that first batch of safe people. As long as you guys are firm and don't vote me out.
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I'm for the 2x5 too.
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So... is anyone going to decide which 5 we vote in?

If you trust my random.org (randomizing from the 9 of you who aren't Weezy or myself), I get:
Kefi, Choco, Cody, Finrod, and Radman

And then I guess I could random.org somehow to figure out who votes for whom. Let me just do that now while I'm here, in case you guys are going to go with what I'm writing. I'll just start randomizing people out of us 10 to vote for each of those 5 above in order, and obviously if I randomize Kefi for Kefi I'll skip over it and write the next person down instead. I'm assuming we can't vote for ourselves, so that's why I'm going through that extra trouble to exclude such cases from randomization.

People who vote for Kefi: Baruch & Kirbym
People who vote for Choco: Finrod & Kefi
People who vote for Cody: Matt & Dream
People who vote for Finrod: Radman & Cody
People who vote for Radman: Choco & Rob

How does that sound? I don't see anyone else proposing anything, and I don't want us to all get a strike, so I'm just going to adhere to that for the moment and if someone wants to do something else, let me know and I can change my vote. But I'm going to send a vote for Cody to be safe (as per the list above) right now just so I don't forget to send anything.
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I'm tempted to randomize a theoretical Part 2 as well with the remaining 6 players, but Part 2 depends on whether Weezy voted for one of Kefi, Choco, Cody, Finrod, and Radman or somebody else.

Although honestly it never matters who we vote for as long as nobody ever votes for Weezy and we always make sure that at least 2 of us voting are voting for the same person we want to be safe.


EDIT: And here's my official announcement that I'm willing to be the last unsafe guy alongside Weezy. Just don't betray me, guys. Please. :/


ANOTHER EDIT: Remember, I think we're supposed to send our PMs to ImTheMacheteGuy.
If you guys agree with the stuff I randomized here, please PM the other people who haven't voted yet to let them know what they should send to Machete.
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 1 2014, 10:58 PM.
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Cody11533
Apr 1 2014, 06:07 PM
And it's still early, but so far TES1>TES2. Pat yourself on the back, Dream.
Yeah TES2 is making me realize just how much Dream did right.
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Choco
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I just noticed Finrod doesn't have a "last activity date" on this forum.
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Apr 1 2014, 10:40 PM
People who vote for Kefi: Baruch & Kirbym
People who vote for Choco: Finrod & Kefi
People who vote for Cody: Matt & Dream
People who vote for Finrod: Radman & Cody
People who vote for Radman: Choco & Rob


that is as good as any.
i'm gonna follow it
Edited by ROBANN_88, Apr 2 2014, 04:06 AM.
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Cody11533
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That sounds fine Dream.
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Kirbymuncher
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Yeah, sounds fine to me.
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Kefiroth
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Good plan. vote sent
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I sent my vote
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Sorry, have been very busy at work. Just got done getting up to speed. Vote sent.
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Dreamwalker
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Even though not much has happened in the game, we're already rigging things to get someone out as quickly as possible. (Weezy)

Btw I've lowered my confidence significantly that ice_scorpio is itachi or a friend. He still might be, but it's not something I'd gamble double-or-nothing on now.
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 2 2014, 10:31 AM.
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Voted for Kefi.


BTW, this weekend I'll be moving out so chances are I won't be available all the time, or to help with strategies at all. But I'll check in to follow orders.
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Okay, so me, Rob, Cody, Kirbym, Kefi, Rad, Finrod, and Baruch have all posted here that they sent their appropriate vote. That only leaves Matt and Choco.

Actually, I suspect Choco has voted too, but he hasn't specifically said it here.
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yeah I voted
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Dreamwalker
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Okay, I just PM'd Matt.
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Matt responded to my PM.

I believe all 10 of our votes are in now.
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I was hoping to see someone else post a randomized list by now.

Anyway, I don't think we're allowed to vote all 5 of us in at once, so do we go for 4 and leave me on the block with Weezy, or do we go for 2 now and 2 next time and hope Weezy gets his 2nd and 3rd strikes? Either way there's a chance we get it done in 3 total rounds (counting the one we already did).
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I think I accidentally deleted your post, Baruch. Oops.

I meant to press Quote and then I'm like "Why is the page reloading?"
I'm surprised there was no "Confirm Delete"

I wonder if there's a way for me to bring the post back.

EDIT: I don't think Zetaboards has a way for me to bring it back. That's kind of really stupid... deletes have no confirmation and then no way to bring them back?

Anyway, IIRC, Baruch said something about how we should give Weezy a chance to be eliminated without getting 3 Strikes, thus letting him join Team Ophiuchus rather than being kicked for inactivity. Is that what we want to do?

Also, Baruch said something about "keep the same voting pairs but make them vote for different people this time" in terms of how to decide who votes for whom this time, but that's not going to work because we can't split the vote 2-2-2-2-2. We'd have to split it 2-2-2-2-1 and let somebody take a strike if we want to ensure Weezy ends up on Ophiuchus. (Personally, I don't see why we should care whether or not he does. There's nothing stopping him from voting right now to avoid strikes if he wants.)

I'd just recommend going 3-3-3-1-0 on our unsafe people right now, with me being the 0 and some other guy being the 1.

(sorry for my mess of a post)
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 2 2014, 10:37 PM.
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;_____________________;

I think you can change the post deletion settings somewhere in the admin panel.


Also tl;drbDd: let's redo the same and end it this Round.
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ArchangelBaruch
Apr 2 2014, 10:31 PM
;_____________________;

I think you can change the post deletion settings somewhere in the admin panel.


Also tl;drbDd: let's redo the same and end it this Round.
Yay, I actually pressed the quote button!

Anyway, I made an edit to my above post (proving I am also capable of pressing the edit button), and I explained why we can't redo the same thing. If we want to ensure Weezy doesn't get 3 strikes, then one of us has to take a strike (in order to do 2-2-2-2-1), and that just seems kind of stupid.

Well, actually, somebody could throw a vote Weezy's way and we could do 2-2-2-2-1-1, but that just seems like insanity. And then (in either of these cases) if Weezy suddenly decided to vote, he might mess it up and cause too many people to tie and then we wouldn't have saved anyone.

So I still prefer 3-3-3-1-0. What do other people think?
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Why can't we split the vote 2x5 again? Unless I missed something in the rules, I don't see why not. In that case, the challenge would end instanly, right?


But yeah, if it isn't possible then 3x3 + 1 is the best choice.


EDIT: Nevermind, just saw this:

You will continue voting players to be safe (anyone who has been saved will continue to vote) until only 2 players per team are unsafe.



Still, it might be worthy to PM the hosts asking what happens if we do what I suggested.
Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 2 2014, 11:01 PM.
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So I still prefer 3-3-3-1-0. What do other people think?


I'm fine with this.

The chances of weezy coming back and voting are slim to none anyway.
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Apr 2 2014, 10:58 PM
Why can't we split the vote 2x5 again? Unless I missed something in the rules, I don't see why not. In that case, the challenge would end instanly, right?

it might be worthy to PM the hosts asking what happens if we do what I suggested.
Someone already questioned the hosts in the topic, and I got the impression from their following posts that they specifically want 2 people remaining when you vote to eliminate. Thus, a 2-2-2-2-2 tie would just result in no progress in making people safe.
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Put some more randomization and slight symmetry into it.
How does this look?

~*~ Round 2 ~*~ (4-4-1-1-0)

People who vote for Kirbym to be safe: Cody, Rad, Choco, Matt
People who vote for Matt to be safe: Finrod, Dream, Kefi, Kirbym
People who vote for Rob to be safe: Baruch
People who vote for Baruch to be safe: Rob

~*~ Round 3 ~*~ (5-5-0) (supposing Weezy didn't vote for Kirbym or Matt in Round 2)

People who vote for Rob to be safe: Cody, Rad, Choco, Matt, Baruch
People who vote for Baruch to be safe: Finrod, Dream, Kefi, Kirbym, Rob

Then Weezy may be kicked for inactivity, or we may have a Round 4 in which you all vote to eliminate either Weezy or Dream.
(You'd of course eliminate Weezy 9-0.)

Edit: For the moment, I've sent my vote for Matt to be safe to Machete, but I can of course change it if people find my list in this post to be objectionable.
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 2 2014, 11:48 PM.
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I am good with this plan..

Sorry for not being on here more.. it is tough for me as I work all day and take care of 2 kids when I get home from work.
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I edited the OP and am now sending in my vote to save kirbymuncher
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PM sent for kirbym
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Apr 3 2014, 04:41 AM
I am good with this plan..

Sorry for not being on here more.. it is tough for me as I work all day and take care of 2 kids when I get home from work.
Hey man, it's okay.

I'm also pretty sure that deadlines will be less extreme in the future than they are in this pseudo-challenge.
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matt314hew
Apr 3 2014, 04:42 AM
PM sent for kirbym
And in return, PM sent for you :p

Also, from the topic on gfaqs: I'm out of this. I'm guessing Gemini is going to win because they stacked it.

I wonder if that's "out of this challenge" or "out of this game"

Also this forum's quoting is garbage, can't figure out how to get the name of the person I'm quoting to appear above the quote. EDIT: now I feel dumb, it appeared there anyways. But it doesn't appear in the preview so I maintain my stance that it's garbage
Edited by Kirbymuncher, Apr 3 2014, 05:14 AM.
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Once again, plan sounds fine, PM sent.
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Apr 3 2014, 05:14 AM
Also this forum's quoting is garbage, can't figure out how to get the name of the person I'm quoting to appear above the quote. EDIT: now I feel dumb, it appeared there anyways. But it doesn't appear in the preview so I maintain my stance that it's garbage
quote a quote to see the code

EDIT: edit
Edited by Choco, Apr 3 2014, 05:17 AM.
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Once again, vote sent
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i'm not quite sure on why we can't vote similar to last time.
but whatever, i'll stick to the plan.

vote sent
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Apr 3 2014, 08:21 AM
i'm not quite sure on why we can't vote similar to last time.
but whatever, i'll stick to the plan.

vote sent
2 people have to remain at the end
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Anti-Gemini sentiment really seems to be ramping up. Looks like we're the "Evil Twins" now. :D
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Vote sent.
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Vote sent.


I wonder how other Teams are so slow at creating a means of communication. As bad as Purple was we had a forum up and running since day one.
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