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Topic Started: Apr 3 2014, 03:11 PM (636 Views)
ROBANN_88
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i asked in the challenge topic if it's a good idea to get an alliance going with Virgo
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mostly cause i like that Traptin3days guy

and it seemed to get support in there
figured it's best to make a full topic for it.

i sent Traptin3days a PM and he likes the alliance idea.
he's just gonna get the rest of his team in on it.

does everyone approve of this?
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ArchangelBaruch
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Yeah, sure. It doesn't even matter if they are competent allies or not, what we want is to have an antiGemini alliance as small as possible.
Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 3 2014, 03:15 PM.
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Dreamwalker
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I vote to approve.

If we go through with this, it will be our first official alliance. All other communications I've had are just leads.

I think Pisces (Pikachu) is receptive to some mutual protection. I'll wait to see if Urca survives there to propose anything.

Cancer may be as well, but I just can't bring myself to trust them. I feel like Inception would rather Cancer get 1st and Gemini get 12th than Cancer get 3rd and Gemini get 1st. So we wouldn't actually be able to work with them well.

I'd say the team we LEAST want to be with is Capricorn. Even if Ice_Scorpio isn't Itachi-related, he and the people who invited him to the game will probably dislike us now.
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Choco
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I vote yes and I think I just got a Virgo to vote yes
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Kirbymuncher
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I approve.

I also don't think we should ally with Inception, not so much because I think he's super untrustworthy but rather that he's too unpredictable. I could totally see him messing with plans just for the fun of it
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Dreamwalker
Apr 3 2014, 03:20 PM
I vote to approve.

If we go through with this, it will be our first official alliance. All other communications I've had are just leads.

I think Pisces (Pikachu) is receptive to some mutual protection. I'll wait to see if Urca survives there to propose anything.

Cancer may be as well, but I just can't bring myself to trust them. I feel like Inception would rather Cancer get 1st and Gemini get 12th than Cancer get 3rd and Gemini get 1st. So we wouldn't actually be able to work with them well.

I'd say the team we LEAST want to be with is Capricorn. Even if Ice_Scorpio isn't Itachi-related, he and the people who invited him to the game will probably dislike us now.
How many times do I have to say this.

Aquarius is the worst of them all, no contest. If Itachi is in the game, NICKY IS SPYING FOR HIM.

Sure, Nicky got a strike, but if Itachi tells him to be more active, he will be.

Guy was like a suicide bomber on Emerald. Nearly got Machete killed.
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Kirbymuncher
Apr 3 2014, 03:28 PM
I could totally see him messing with plans just for the fun of it
isn't that exactly what you did that caused Luna to vote you out
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Choco
Apr 3 2014, 03:29 PM
Guy was like a suicide bomber on Emerald. Nearly got Machete killed.
Oh hey, I remember that. Itachi told me pretty much live through Steam.

BTW, he is the one who passed us the link to Emerald's quicktopic right after the merge IIRC.



So yeah, he's dangerous.
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ArchangelBaruch
Apr 3 2014, 03:32 PM
BTW, he is the one who passed us the link to Emerald's quicktopic right after the merge IIRC.
Well yeah that's kinda the point >_>
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Kirbymuncher
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welll.... maybe? wasn't my intention at least

I also want to add that Inception was PMing me asking for help with a lot of the redemption puzzles after he got voted out for the first time, don't think I've ever brought this up before. I think we may have even had some minor collaboration before that, don't remember 100%. But I do remember discussion the string untangling challenge with him
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Kirbymuncher
Apr 3 2014, 03:33 PM
I also want to add that Inception was PMing me asking for help with a lot of the redemption puzzles after he got voted out for the first time, don't think I've ever brought this up before. I think we may have even had some minor collaboration before that, don't remember 100%. But I do remember discussion the string untangling challenge with him
what a whore

was he talking to EVERYONE?
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Kirbymuncher
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I went and looked a little more closely about what was in our PMs, turned out to not be as big as I was remembering: A few back and forth PMs trying to sort out a particularly tricky string in the string challenge, and our best guess as to the pattern in the challenge with cards on a tiled floor (which we were totally wrong about anyways)
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Dreamwalker
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I still find the work some of you guys put into the String Challenge to be amazing.

Anyway, let's try not to get off track.

"Yes" to Virgo
"Maybe" to Pisces
"No" to Cancer
"No" to Capricorn
"No" to Aquarius

How do we feel about the other teams? (oh wait, would asking that be getting us off-track?)
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Choco
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I kinda like Leo so far
Libra and Scorpio have TES1ers; personally I feel that Libra gives off an untrustworthy vibe whereas Scorpio seems fine
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Dreamwalker
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Okay, so a fond "maybe" towards Scorpio? :)
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Choco
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Thing is, it's not unlikely that those semi-TES1er teams have formed or are forming an alliance against us (aka the new mango)
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Dreamwalker
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Why can't we be the new White/Sky?
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Kefiroth
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I'm cool with a Virgo alliance if everyone else is.

We should seek out an alliance with Scorpio as well. They've got like half of the old grey team, and I'm pretty sure hapexamendios is a cool guy also.
Edited by Kefiroth, Apr 3 2014, 05:33 PM.
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Dreamwalker
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You're kind of our go-to guy for that alliance, Kefi.
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Choco
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if Kefi is fine with it then so am I :)
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ROBANN_88
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he has confirmed.
Virgo is in on the alliance.

so what do we do now?
make a quicktopic or something?
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ArchangelBaruch
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No need for the moment, we can exchange through PM.

If needed, a closed forum would be better.
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Choco
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Like when Purple made a forum with Black and Red and then you banned Inception and I made an account called noitpecni and Itachi totally thought I was Inception
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Dreamwalker
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Should we ask Virgo if they want some other team involved in the alliance too?

I say bring the question up to them before saying any names ourselves. We want them to seem to be in control so that they can look more threatening (see: White and Amber; Sky and Mango).
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Choco
Apr 4 2014, 08:19 AM
Like when Purple made a forum with Black and Red and then you banned Inception and I made an account called noitpecni and Itachi totally thought I was Inception
Oh yeah, he did.

The real Inception also tried it with something completely different, by the way.
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ArchangelBaruch
Apr 4 2014, 12:29 PM
Choco
Apr 4 2014, 08:19 AM
Like when Purple made a forum with Black and Red and then you banned Inception and I made an account called noitpecni and Itachi totally thought I was Inception
Oh yeah, he did.

The real Inception also tried it with something completely different, by the way.
Are you sure that was him?
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Dreamwalker
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How are we still having ES1 drama?
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ArchangelBaruch
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It's more fun than discussing about Waffle quitting and Whatsup's breakdown.
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Choco
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Dreamwalker
Apr 4 2014, 12:51 PM
How are we still having ES1 drama?
How is that drama
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Choco
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ArchangelBaruch
Apr 4 2014, 12:59 PM
It's more fun than discussing [...] Whatsup's breakdown.
LOL
NOPE
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matt314hew
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I am good with an alliance with Virgo. I also think that we should let them tell us if they have any other alliance.
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ROBANN_88
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i am still unsure how far this alliance should stretch.
the last game, i felt i was maybe a bit too trusting, so to compensate i might have become paranoid instead.

so for example, would it be beneficial to share the info on the last game cover they are missing?
(they were missing nr 6 a few hours ago at least)
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Choco
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I think them winning is beneficial to us

We won't look like the super strong bad guys, and we wouldn't be forced to make people hate us via stealing
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Cody11533
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Giving them the answer without asking for anything directly in return would be a good way to build trust with them. Additionally, it would add another presumably friendly team into the 1st place tiebreaker, which can only help.
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Dreamwalker
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I agree with Cody now. We want them to have at least safety, and we don't know if the will unless they tie for a perfect score of 10.

Once few enough people tie that everyone remaining in the running for Dominance has at least Safety, we don't need to help them any further.
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ROBANN_88
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okay. i sent him the answer
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Choco
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Someone should talk to them about this tiebreaker (I'm too shy)
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Dreamwalker
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I sent traptguy a message right before I left home asking them how amny they had and saying we have 6.

Also, I was talking to a Libra guy on Steam earlier and he claims Libra isn't going to put us up if they win. But neither of us gave each other anything.
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Re: so, Mr. Ally person

No one of my teammates have submitted anything yet. I know 2 of these so far on my own though, but there's some that I will probably figure out soon.

Sent by: Traptin3days on 4/8/2014 1:34:24 PM
This message was first read on 4/8/2014 1:56:04 PM


I'm rather busy today actually so if someone else could contact them for the remainder of the challenge, that would be great.
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Choco
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Should we just tell them the 6 we have (and ask what they have)?

Cause that's what I'd do, but idk if y'all agree with that.
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Dreamwalker
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Tell them which #s we have, ask which #s they have, give them the #s we have, then have them give us the #s they have (if they had any we don't have)

anyway, leaving door now
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RE: YO, GEMINI HERE (DREAM IS BUSY OR SOMETHING)

My team keeps being idle. Only I have said anything regarding that matter (except for one who commented that those pictures are crap and then disappeared). So all I've got is 14 and 17. But I am working on it.

Sent by: Traptin3days on 4/8/2014 11:18:05 PM



I'll just give ours to him, then.
That's one more guy concentrating on 11, 15, and 19
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You mean on 15 and 19.

These were, interestingly, the two Shock didn't have (as of my last convo with him) as well.

Inception claims to have everything..
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 8 2014, 03:51 PM.
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Dreamwalker
Apr 8 2014, 03:50 PM
You mean on 15 and 19.
You mean on {}.
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Choco
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idk if anyone sent the completed list of games to virgo yet, but I'm going to bed, so if nobody did that, somebody should
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Dreamwalker
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Do we have an alliance with the whole team or just with Traptin? Sometimes it seems like it's just Traptin.
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Sent the list to Traptin.

So that's Cancer, Gemini, and Virgo tied for 10/10 again. Libra is still at 8/10, I think. Maybe 9/10. I don't know the status of Aries, Taurus, Scorpio, and Sagittarius.
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This doesn't surprise me very much, but Virgo's team members aren't very reliable. I thought Shock was joking about getting #15 from Inception in the first tie-breaker, but Inception is now saying:

pikachurocks: Kinda of silly since you posted that to start a personal attack on me when I helpped almost every team last challenge lol

And with his mentioning the Virgo thing in the topic, I think what I suspected earlier may be true. Virgo may have had someone give the game to Inception. Or at least tell him that they got the games from us. I'm just gonna stay silent on that issue though unless he keeps bringing it up that staying silent ends up being the worse option.
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I talked some stuff over with Traptin. He's surprised that his team may have a mole but he agreed to keep an eye out for any further suspicious activity. He says there are 2 people on his team he knows personally and trusts but he doesn't know for sure about all the others.

I reminded him not to go on a witch hunt (for that would just destroy his team and our alliance along with it) but just calmly keep an eye out.
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I wouldn't be surprised if half of the newbies are Inception's moles.


We should try feeding them a bit of false info in a particularly hard challenge, see if it propagates.
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