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Topic Started: Apr 3 2014, 03:11 PM (639 Views)
ROBANN_88
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FYI.
i asked Dreamwalker e to chnge the name of the topic from "Virgo alliance?" to "Alliances?"

cause somewhere along the way, it became a topic about all of them, not just Virgo. so it fits better now.

EDIT: why did i write Machete instead of Dream?
i think i might be losing my mind or something
Edited by ROBANN_88, Apr 15 2014, 01:56 PM.
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ArchangelBaruch
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Machete is here?! OMG!

Hiiiiiiiiiiii! How's it going?
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Because Machete and Dream both fit the role of "other host" in your mind?

Because you see us both as black?

idk
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suddenly racism
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An idea for the next Round: the minute the new items are up, immediately claim the best one. Then we can think about what to do, but other Teams will be stuck so we have time to think, even if it ends just being a bluff.

In fact, it being a bluff would be the best way to kill this annoying PSA mechanic.

It would also be nice if Taurus claimed the same item as us (like if they want to fight us) si that other Teams may see it as a conflict and Cancer thinks "no need to use one of my allies to cockblock Gemini".

However, we need to ask very fast. Can someone be there when the roud starts and also tell Taurus about this?
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Or even easier to avoid being sniped: just post now "Next Round Gemini claims the first item from the hoghest point tier, whatever it is".

EDIT: Whoops, these two posts should go in the other topic.
Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 16 2014, 05:47 AM.
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I like that idea. I was skeptical til you mentioned Taurus also claiming it.
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So should we claim it in advance, if only for the dramatic effect?
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Taurus has 6 active players and 4 "fluff." They want to keep at least those 6 going into a merge.
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Well, here's the reply I got from Jet after telling him about the Pisces board and asking him how he feels about a Gemini/Sagittarius/Virgo/Taurus alliance? (recall he already knew a lot of people on Virgo)

Virgo's got a mole in it remember? Besides, most of my active teammates want to stay with Inception no matter what I say, so I can't get them to join you instead. I suggest getting Aquarius if you can, since they're the most likely to help you.

Anyway, Inception said he figured out I was with you, but after I poked holes through his flawed logic he seemed to have believed taking the berry was an accident, so hopefully he just forgot to tell Pisces that I joined their alliance. I imagine if our safety is stolen by one of his teams again we'll be able to join you, but for now only I can help you. Thanks for trying to assist us, but we've got an inactive player we can get rid off for this round so it's no problem.

Sent by: Jet_the_hawk79 on 4/21/2014 8:29:21 PM
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Silly teepan getting all Gray.
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Speaking of Gray, I don't imagine Scorpio is going to want to work against Cancer when they can just sit on the sidelines. But maybe we should at least try? Idk.
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So here's what I gather on alliances right now...
(I'm just making up names for the megateams. I've never heard anyone use these names before.)

Cancer Coalition: Cancer, Libra, Pisces, Capricorn, Aries, Sagittarius (minus Jet who may help us)
Gemini Group: Gemini, Taurus, Virgo (minus a mole who will help Cancer) (not sure if Taurus and Virgo are good with each other)
Unaffiliated: Leo, Aquarius, Scorpio

I'm thinking maybe we should reach out to Scorpio, Aquarius, and/or Leo.
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well for what it's worth teepan is claiming total neutrality
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Apparently, Inception lied about Pisces being in the alliance.

Teepan told me Pisces is neutral. That could also mean Capricorn and Libra aren't as faithful as Inception says either.

Sent by: Jet_the_hawk79 on 4/22/2014 5:13:37 AM


Well, I guess now that Epona's posted, my quoting of Jet I came here to do is rather pointless, but I'm posting this anyway.
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Here's a PM I got back from Scorpio though. I didn't tell them specifically that i want an alliance, but I asked about how their relations were both within their team and with other teams, and I mentioned that going it alone in Week 3 didn't work well for either Gemini or Scorpio.

Re: How's it going on Scorpio?

Relations within Scorpio are solid but our relationship with other teams is tenuous at best. I will talk to my team to find out their thoughts on this and either let you know myself or have one of them contact you.

Sent by: Swiftblade09 on 4/22/2014 11:00:44 AM
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Does this mean Kero is leading Scorpio?
Should I reply with Taurus and (most of) Virgo, or should I tell him that we're not going to tell him who's with us until they give us some indication of wanting to work with us?

Cancer

So what other teams are part of your coalition?

Sent by: kerotan92 on 4/22/2014 12:27:23 PM


He can see that it was Read, so a relatively quick answer would be good.
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This is what I told teepan back then:

I don't know if the others want their anti-Cancer stance made more public (and my team is slightly paranoid about information leaking to Cancer), but I think it's fine if I tell you Virgo is one of them.
Sorry I can't go into more detail right now...


Y'know, since Inception already knows about Virgo anyway.
Edited by Choco, Apr 22 2014, 10:50 AM.
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You just have to word it better for kero since he's not a super happy little kid ^_^
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Okay, I set my PMs to not show that I've read them now. ;_; RIP relic from being host
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I actually went the entire TES1 with people able to see when I read my PM's. I remember there would be times when I'd see a PM in my inbox from someone like Inception, and put off opening it until later because I didn't feel like responding but didn't want him to know when I read it.
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Apr 22 2014, 11:58 AM
I actually went the entire TES1 with people able to see when I read my PM's. I remember there would be times when I'd see a PM in my inbox from someone like Inception, and put off opening it until later because I didn't feel like responding but didn't want him to know when I read it.
why didn't you just change the setting
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Cody11533
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I don't know. I really should have done it ages ago.
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I also had that setting all of the first struggle and did the same thing as cody about not reading them right away. I changed that setting recently though
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Choco
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you guys just want to suffer for no reason

people like you are the reason we still haven't landed on the moon
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Kefiroth
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I keep the setting off because I think other people seeing "This user does not allow users to see when their messages are read" will make me seem less approachable or too secretive.

Maintaining a positive image can be key in this game.
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Choco
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Is your avatar different? Or are my eyes different?

How can avatars be real if our eyes aren't real?
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Kefiroth
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I see you have observed my rotating line-up of avatars featuring pieces from my extensive collection of British coins. A new avatar every game-week! [/nobodycares]
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I hadn't noticed the changing coins. :(
This is why we need Choco. He notices things. For example, he probably noticed that I'm only using 1 space after a period now.
Although I'm not sure what he means by us not landing on the Moon. We HAVE landed on the Moon.

Anyway, I got a reply from Finrod.

Re: not sure if anyone's told you

Yeah not probs. I was just staying in to give you an extra person to vote out. Sorry, I just have no time at all, my career is really consuming me at the moment. Good luck!

Sent by: AndFinrodFell on 4/22/2014 1:41:42 PM


EDIT: Perhaps this is the wrong topic to post that, but oh well.

While I'm editing this post, I might as well tell you guys who my contact on Taurus is since he said he doesn't mind Gemini knowing his name. It's FvP. He initiated contact with me about a week ago. (maybe a little more, idk, I'm not not good with time.) He said any of you guys can contact him. He also said this:

Re: alliance stuff

We have absolutely no ties with the other teams. We just know you do not like Cancer, and Cap has an alliance with Cancer.

For the most part we are trying to remain under the radar and just place well enough to be safe. Since there are only 6 active members of Taurus, we will all probably survive until the merge anyway.

Sent by: FvP on 4/22/2014 2:43:36 PM
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 22 2014, 04:12 PM.
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Got this PM recently from Scorpio. I still hadn't replied to Kero because I wasn't sure what we wanted to tell him and I didn't get enough opinions from you guys.

pls respond

I know your original liaison was Swiftblade but I represent Scorpio and we're waiting for a response before we make any final decisions. First, we would like to know how many teams are involved in your Coalition. And we would also like to extend our opposition to include Virgo.

Sent by: kerotan92 on 4/22/2014 3:32:10 PM
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 22 2014, 04:12 PM.
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Since Week 4 may be posted soon and we want Scorpio on our side, I went ahead and told him that we are strong with Taurus and attempted to work with Virgo but would like Virgo's mole gone before we work with them more. I'm hoping it's just the mole on Virgo that also annoys Scorpio and not Virgo team as a whole that annoys them. I asked them their reason for opposing Virgo. Maybe it's something we'd want to hear anyway, as I think Scorpio would make a stronger ally than Virgo if we were forced to choose.
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 22 2014, 04:12 PM.
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More random info: I talked to Urca, and he said he never got the PM for a quicktopic, so either Pisces never made one or he just never got it. (I was hoping he'd leak it to us now that Apple posted in Pisces board and probably ruined the chance of us observing anything there.)
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Apr 22 2014, 03:58 PM
I asked them their reason for opposing Virgo. Maybe it's something we'd want to hear anyway, as I think Scorpio would make a stronger ally than Virgo if we were forced to choose.
well. pretty much the reason we allied with Virgo in the first place was cause i liked that Trapt guy, after i found out he's also a Swede.
but gameplay wise it hasn't really led to much (apart from just us handing over the game cover answers to them to get them to like us), and i got really paranoid over that mole thing.

so if we would be forced to give up one to get the other, Scorpio would probably be the better choice.
but it would be best to avoid openly announce it if at all possible.
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I'm hoping Scorpio will be receptive our trying to weed out the mole on Virgo though.

Perhaps we can have a Gemini/Taurus/Scorpio alliance with Virgo assisting in minor ways until they work out their mole problem. I like that Trapt guy too, so I don't want to lose his help for the wrong reasons.
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I'm not sure if it's just one guy or the whole Virgo team but they've been intentionally ruining things for us so far and it's irritating. So yes I would like for them to be down a couple players. Other than that, I'm cool. Let's do it.

Sent by: kerotan92 on 4/23/2014 5:45:36 AM


So I guess we're with Scorpio (and still Taurus) now and just keeping Virgo on the back burner or something. We should probably figure out in the next half-day or so what we're going to give Virgo, if anything. I feel like Trapt is willing to work with us but has a bad team member. Then again, it's possible he himself is the spy. Unlikely in my mind, but possible.

I've sent Taurus (FvP) our list so far, and I'll send the list to Scorpio (Kero) as well when I get back from breakfast (more like really really late night snack since I've been doing Paper Trail stuff on inFamous while light creeped up on me) unless there are any objections.

EDIT: Sending Scorpio PM now. Hoping they figure out some of the stuff we don't have. We'll see how it goes, I guess.
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 23 2014, 04:24 AM.
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Re: Alliance with Scorp

We accept Scorpio's alliance.

Sent by: FvP on 4/23/2014 4:32:57 PM


Thank God. I think all parties involved finally recognize this trio as official now.
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Yayifications!


It's better than the "maybe-maybenot" position we have with Pisces, or the Jet situation where we only have a spy.
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Might wanna make a quicktopic for everyone or something
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ArchangelBaruch
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Or another private forum, as it will be more secure.
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Choco
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gee I wonder where you got that idea from
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Let's wait on the results of this round before jumping to the private forum idea. If only us 3 tie at the top, then perfect. Make the private forum. If more people tie, then I'm not sure. It'll be inconclusive whether or not there was a leak.
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Does anyone have any name ideas for the new forum? I suppose I'll be the guy to make it, since Kero and FvP are both communicating with me anyway and I already created this first forum.
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I was thinking about the first letters of Gemini, Scorpio, and Taurus and seeing what the 6 different 3 letter combinations could represent. Well, SGT is Sergeant, so maybe we can make a board called Sargeant? Or is that lame?

An alternative idea I had is to combine a bull, a scorpion, and twins somehow. But I'm not sure how to make that into anything.

EDIT: FvP says Taurus likes the idea of a forum, but they don't have any name suggestions.
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 23 2014, 09:19 PM.
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Poison Buffalo Twins Alliance
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Swiftblade proposed "Chimera's Chasm"? What do you think?
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*Chimaera

And not bad.
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I think he means the alliance to just be Chimera but the forum to be Chimera's Chasm. Btw, "Chimera" is an acceptable spelling: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(mythology)
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Quote:
 
ES2 Virgo

Hi, do you or well Gemini as a whole want to trade some answers and such. We have : 1, 3, 8, 6a, and part of 9 as of now. I don't if you've already been contacted. Thanks :)

Sent by: EpicMickeyDrew on 4/24/2014 4:42:18 AM
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I don't know. What do you guys want to do?
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We can send him some of our answers and see which ones Cancer ends up having.

Someone else will probably have to do that, though, as I'm about to head out
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