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Topic Started: Apr 11 2014, 07:48 AM (220 Views)
ROBANN_88
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we can remove one safety this week.
which do we choose?

Virgo
Aries
Cancer
Libra
Taurus
Edited by ROBANN_88, Apr 11 2014, 07:48 AM.
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Choco
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Cancer is the only one of those to actively antagonize us (via lying).

While one could argue that we'd turn one of the more powerful teams into our enemy, I counterargue that because of Inception's role in that team, we would never be allies with them anyway. Might as well weaken them if they're a threat either way.
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Kirbymuncher
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Well clearly not Virgo... Could always follow the advice of whoever it was that posted in the topic that we should steal from the group that didn't make the tiebreaker in the hopes it seems more impartial.

The game's just started, I don't really have strong feelings one way or the other yet.
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I just feel like stealing from Taurus would be such a waste of our win.

Plus, if we look like Cancer's enemies rather than impartial, people will be forced to take a side, and they're more likely to take ours - a) because we're stronger so far in the case of TES newcomers, and b) because Inception can't be trusted in the case of TES1ers.
We could even message Taurus right now and suggest an alliance. If they decline, steal theirs.
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Kirbymuncher
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They're probably the most scared right now, we could alliance with them. Just by making it into safety they've already shown they're more effective than half the teams
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Found some time between classes to check this topic. So we're flanking ourselves with Virgo and Taurus fodder?

Anyway, yeah, someone contact Taurus. I agree in stealing from Cancer. I don't think Inception will do a particularly good job of getting people to trust him enough to work with him against us in the long term. I think other teams may TRU working with Inception to rig things against us, but then he'll screw them over and they'll quickly realize they should go after him instead. At least that's my train of thought right now.

But I welcome more opinions (and talk with Taurus) before we vote.
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what if we talk to the other Cancer's and tell them we're just after Inception?
would that maybe get them to vote him out, or would it be pushing it a bit?
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ArchangelBaruch
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I also say vote Cancer.

Also, to make ourselves look better we should publicly explain the reason behind the choice (in this case INCEPTI0N's lies). With a bit of luck he'll be thrown out first.

No need to PM them, as we don't know what kind of factions are in there. Better to go public IMO.
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Great idea. I agree with publicly stating we want Inception gone. They may still not like us, but at least there's a chance they'll do what we want.

Also, if they don't do what we want, then Inception becomes the new Itachi and hence Cancer is the new purple.

So it's a win-win for us.
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BTW, I don't think we have a time limit, but might as well decide this as soon as possible so that people don't get bored waiting.
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Publicly announcing it might cause some resentment for us, though, in the sense of "these guys are so full of themselves they think they csn just commamd other teams to do whatever they want"

But it might be worth it if it gets rid of inception, and prevents the rest of cancer from being too annoyed. If they don't get rid of him, it gives us an idea of how much power he controls within the team.

I say do it.
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Dreamwalker
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I think Inception's helping is make the case for stealing from him.
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ROBANN_88
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i sent in my vote on Cancer
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ArchangelBaruch
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So, it's go-time? There seems to be an overwhelming majority for voting Cancer, after all.


Who wants to do the PSA? It would be nice to do it before Mayochete announces the loser team so that Inception doesn't have time to protect himself.
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I suppose we can vote Cancer then.

Anyone can make the announcement, I guess. I'm about to be busy for another hour or two and am on my phone. I'll send a vote but don't have time to type a good post.

It may help to mention that Inception was being shady when trying to cut a deal with us in the first tie-breaker. He wanted a particular game (#15) so he could trade it to the other teams to get all the games.
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 11 2014, 10:54 AM.
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ArchangelBaruch
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It would be a good idea to copypaste your conversation with him about how he wanted #15. I believe that's allowed?


EDIT: Didn't see the last line.
Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 11 2014, 11:00 AM.
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Dreamwalker
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I think I've lost the entire context, but I did post a line or two in here or maybe to Rob on Steam or something.

Maybe I should save my Steam logs but meh. I don't.
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Kirbymuncher
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Sent in a cancer vote, on phone though so I don't want to type a bunch in the topic
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ArchangelBaruch
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...I want to post the message myself SO bad, but seeing how my feelings towards Inception are well known it could be taken as personal revenge, which would make it look bad and maybe earn some enemies for later.


Anyway, I voted Cancer.
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Sent cancer vote
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Dreamwalker
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Still on phone but finished meeting early. Will be home after lunch. Feel free to post it before then if you're on. But if you don't post it, I guess I will.

I somehow feel like I'm going to get blamed for everything if I keep being the figurehead though.
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Dreamwalker
Apr 11 2014, 12:05 PM
I somehow feel like I'm going to get blamed for everything if I keep being the figurehead though.
You are the best at all matters organizational :3
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I agree with Cancer.

As for the explanation, it might be better if our more outspoken members did not post it. Maybe we could agree on what to say here, and then have someone like myself, Rob, or Kirby post it in the topic?

On the other hand, Dream did talk with Inception, and it would fit his personality to be the one to explain it, so I dunno.
Edited by Cody11533, Apr 11 2014, 12:26 PM.
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Dreamwalker
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Or radman, if he's still here. I think radman posting it would surprise everyone.
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Kirbymuncher
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I was considering offering tp post it, but it is totally at odds with my personality so I'd need soneone else to write it.
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Dreamwalker
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Oh well. I'm home. Since many of us have sent votes already, somebody should probably say something before Mayo updates, so I guess I'll do it.
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Cody11533
Apr 11 2014, 12:24 PM
As for the explanation, it might be better if our more outspoken members did not post it.
IT'S NOT A CHOICE, IT'S A CONDITION



I don't know, having someone who doesn't post a lot to say it might feel off. Honestly it feels natural having Dream say it, for reasons evoked above. But maybe he wants to spend his time doing other things, like studying for his oral exam.
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Hmm, on the other hand, we could do something cryptic like have a bunch of us STP "Blame Inception" without any explanation. While I don't know how helpful that would be, it sounds fun.
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ArchangelBaruch
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IMO it would just sound pretentious. Better if we just plainly explain it.
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Choco
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Sent in my vote.

Of course it'll still take the 36 hours unless Matt gets super lucky with internet.

But the problem solves itself, because this way we won't get to the next challenge till he's back home (well, maybe).
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Dreamwalker
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In the original Epic Struggle, I would update (not revealing exact vote numbers) as soon as a majority was reached, even if not everyone had yet voted. I assume Mayo is doing that (as well as the "two-people-at-once" shame thing) too.
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Dreamwalker
Apr 11 2014, 11:02 AM
Maybe I should save my Steam logs but meh. I don't.
you can do that?

is there a setting somewhere, or did you mean manually saving it?
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ROBANN_88
Apr 11 2014, 01:09 PM
Dreamwalker
Apr 11 2014, 11:02 AM
Maybe I should save my Steam logs but meh. I don't.
you can do that?

is there a setting somewhere, or did you mean manually saving it?
I thought there was, but I'm not seeing it now that I look. I'm probably confusing it with other chat programs.
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Choco
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steam has like the WORST chat service
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Dreamwalker
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GameFAQs PMs are pretty bad too, but perhaps they don't count as a chat service.
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Kirbymuncher
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Most chat services are pretty terrible
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ArchangelBaruch
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ENGAGING DAMAGE CONTROL

Oh, Inception.
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Choco
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So, why does he know about Virgo?

Though he thinks we traded answers.
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Dreamwalker
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Maybe someone on Virgo wanted to seem powerful and said they "traded" just so that they would look less inferior.
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Aries seems to not like Cancer either.

Amplefy: he begged us for 15 too haha

Also, apparently Bomb hasn't done much on their team. So maybe that means Amplefy is the leader or figurehead leader?

Amplefy: bomb made our teams quicktopic, but anything resembling leadership ended there
Amplefy: pronouncemyname is probably the most active next to me on the team
Edited by Dreamwalker, Apr 11 2014, 03:40 PM.
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Just realized that nobody voted for Inception. So Cancer basically is Inception.

Guess we'll be targetting them for a while.
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