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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 11 2014, 06:14 PM (1,662 Views) | |
| Dreamwalker | Apr 11 2014, 06:14 PM Post #1 |
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Mayo has provided a hint. Let the wild speculation begin! Hint for week three's challenge: its inspired from either Mario Party or Mii Party (forgot which one did this) Also, I've heard Machete will be hosting Challenges 4 and 5. |
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| Cody11533 | Apr 11 2014, 06:17 PM Post #2 |
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Like I said, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNYlWtXWGbQ Mayo shows his dedication by upstaging Dream and buying pizza for over 100 people for one challenge. |
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| Dreamwalker | Apr 11 2014, 06:27 PM Post #3 |
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Are you sure it doesn't mean each person gets 1/112 of a pizza? |
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| Kefiroth | Apr 11 2014, 06:57 PM Post #4 |
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As long as it's not the Dark Maze, I think I can manage. |
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| Kirbymuncher | Apr 11 2014, 07:35 PM Post #5 |
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I just hope it's a puzzle/game challenge and not a guessing/knowledge challenge |
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| Dreamwalker | Apr 11 2014, 07:44 PM Post #6 |
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I had Sonic Shuffle instead of Mario Party as a kid. >_> |
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| Choco | Apr 12 2014, 12:58 AM Post #7 |
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that's rough man |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 12 2014, 03:24 AM Post #8 |
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Gentlemen, prepare your joysticks. But nah, probably it's just a sequential input challenge. Like the robot one in TES1, but each of us sends an instruction. |
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| Choco | Apr 12 2014, 04:18 AM Post #9 |
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it's gonna be like twitch plays pokemon |
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| Dreamwalker | Apr 12 2014, 09:12 AM Post #10 |
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I liked Sonic at the time... but Sonic Shuffle was annoying as heck. Computers seemed to cheat a lot too. |
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| Kefiroth | Apr 12 2014, 10:15 AM Post #11 |
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so...just like Mario Party |
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| Dreamwalker | Apr 12 2014, 12:08 PM Post #12 |
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At the time I thought it was a cheap rip-off of Mario Party (of which I had seen demos in stores), but yes, from what I heard later in life, it seems Mario Party was annoying too. I have still not yet played a single game of any Mario Party, however. |
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| ROBANN_88 | Apr 13 2014, 08:17 AM Post #13 |
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alright, the challenge is up http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/839-games-n-things/68996212/780542070 |
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| Kefiroth | Apr 13 2014, 08:28 AM Post #14 |
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this is exactly the kind of challenge we DIDN'T want. It would seem to lend itself well to inter-team collusion. |
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| Choco | Apr 13 2014, 08:32 AM Post #15 |
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is there anyone we can talk to other than virgo |
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| Kefiroth | Apr 13 2014, 08:34 AM Post #16 |
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This may be a good time to strike up relations with Scorpio |
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| Choco | Apr 13 2014, 08:41 AM Post #17 |
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So I was just thinking. This is a lot like the first TES1 challenge (where everyone picked a number 1-100). And I think barely any teams talked to each other back then. Now we - the team that consists entirely of TES1ers - immediately think of who to talk to to help each other win this challenge. So is it not a reasonable assumption that the teams that consist entirely of newcomers would just send whatever and be glad to have another team approach them, especially if that team won the only challenge so far? So yeah let's try initiating conversations with Taurus, Pisces, etc. |
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| Kirbymuncher | Apr 13 2014, 08:44 AM Post #18 |
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I was gonna PM Jet, since he seems open to a bit of cross-team discussion according to his post in the topic Do we want to try to go for 1 point, or 2 points this round? |
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| Choco | Apr 13 2014, 08:50 AM Post #19 |
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going for 1 would make it easier to approach others, but 4. Whichever team has the most points at the end of four rounds wins. If there is a tie, we will look back each round until there was a point that those teams did not tie. So it may be beneficial to have a higher score in the early rounds as well. and I don't think it'll be 1-2 points every round so 1 might be basically worthless idk Edited by Choco, Apr 13 2014, 08:51 AM.
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| Kirbymuncher | Apr 13 2014, 08:58 AM Post #20 |
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Actually I think that's a good point. It would be hard for items to be worth less than 1 point, so by extension it's likely that many items afterwards will be worth more than 1 point. Perhaps picking a single point item is best for the first round? |
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| Dreamwalker | Apr 13 2014, 09:57 AM Post #21 |
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I don't know. >_> |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 10:01 AM Post #22 |
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I think this is going to be like that one coin bag Challenge in TES1, where the last round is going to have an item value fairly superior to that of Round 1. Also, bear in mind that there are 10 items, and we are 12 teams. At least 3 are going to get zero points. Therefore, my idea for a strategy: contact as many Teams as possible, saying something like this: "hey there, in order for us and our allies to maximize our chances of all getting points we Team Gemini are organizing the voting. It's not a zero-risk strategy since there are people who will be voting something that we don't know, but at least the risk will be as low as possible. Please tell us if your team would like to go for a 1-point or 2-point item, then we'll tell you what item to take according to what our other allies told us they are going to pick. This way, everyone will go for something different while keeping the communications as secure as possible and avoiding any leakings. And in case you are wondering: we are still gunning for Cancer since during the last vote they didn't get rid of INCEPTI0N. It goes without saying, but we aren't setting you up or anything; therefore, please make sure that your Team votes what we say else you will be putting yourselves at an additional risk of getting no points for no reason." Thus, by adding the "tell me if you want 1 or 2 points" part we make sure that they still believe they have a say on the thing and be more certain that they'll cooperate. Admitting that the risk is not zero will have the same effect. Then, we go for the least chosen option to maximize our scoring chances: for example, if 3 allies wanted 2 points and 1 wanted 1 point we should go for 1 point ourselves. Thoughts? I know Dream won't like it since it's a variant of the Redemption strategy that got me INCEPTI0Ned, but I believe this is as safe as it can get. Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 13 2014, 10:04 AM.
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| Dreamwalker | Apr 13 2014, 10:04 AM Post #23 |
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"where the last round is going to have an item value fairly superior to that of Round 1." Actually, if you recall, it was Round 3 of 4 that had the largest bag of points. |
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| Kefiroth | Apr 13 2014, 10:06 AM Post #24 |
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Isn't there a chance that one of the teams we contact is in kahootz with Cancer, and might leak stuff to them? |
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| Dreamwalker | Apr 13 2014, 10:07 AM Post #25 |
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Baruch, if your strategy works, that'll be great, but I fear it will just make us come off far too strong and then people will talk with each other and get us out. But honestly, I really don't know, and I really need to spend today studying for my oral, so I think I'm going to hand over authority to the other members of the team today and tomorrow. Good luck! ^_^ (I'll let you know if anyone PMs me or Steam chats me with info though.) |
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| Cody11533 | Apr 13 2014, 10:18 AM Post #26 |
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I don't think organizing something like that would be a good idea, mainly because it puts an even larger target on our back. We want other teams to feel like we're equals. I'd say contacting the teams we want to be friendly with and making sure we don't duplicate is a good idea, but I don't think we should tell them what to choose. |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 10:20 AM Post #27 |
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Not really, with my strategy each of our allies will only know what they should vote. If Cancer wants to go after us they'll go for one of of the items that wasn't the one that our traitors told them to. Which doesn't give them that much of an advantage, even in the case of multiple traitors, seeing how we'll be voting for the least popular category.
We are already the strong team having won the first challenge. Might as well organize something, which will have the added bonus of limiting the strength of our potential future opposition. Plus, by doing this it's not even sure that the ones winning will be us. Ideally (and statistically) it will be one of our allies, which will help dissipate our image of strength. However, if we want to do it we have to move ASAP before others have similar ideas. EDIT:
Doing that would require to be in an equal footing, having to tell them what we will be voting. This is obviously way way WAY riskier as there is no protection against a leak. Becoming the leader of our allies in this challenge is the safest way out, as far as I can imagine. Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 13 2014, 10:22 AM.
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| ROBANN_88 | Apr 13 2014, 10:21 AM Post #28 |
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i could contact the guy on Virgo and ask what he's gonna pick, and say we'll avoid it. might ask if he's got any leads on the other ones. but cause i'm paranoid now, i'll try to avoid telling him what we're gonna pick. i'll wait until we've decided on a plan, though Edited by ROBANN_88, Apr 13 2014, 10:23 AM.
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| Kefiroth | Apr 13 2014, 10:22 AM Post #29 |
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Well, it's the closest we're going to get to a viable strategy for this challenge, so I support. |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 10:24 AM Post #30 |
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In case you are OK with my idea, tell who are you going to contact so that everyone of us go to different people. Also, wait a couple of hours at least before sending the messages in case someone who still hasn't posted has serious objections against the plan. Or someone who has. I plan on PMing Aries' Raka_Putra. Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 13 2014, 10:25 AM.
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| Kirbymuncher | Apr 13 2014, 10:30 AM Post #31 |
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I PM'd Jet (Sagittarius), pointed out that it's in both our interests not to accidentally pick the same thing, and asked for what they were thinking of doing. I also suggested that picking the 1 point option would probably be safer, in hopes of steering them towards that so we could get a 2pointer Edit: I also think trying to organize things from behind the scenes may not work well since we already won the first challenge. If another team organized stuff as a proxy for us, though, that would be great. Edited by Kirbymuncher, Apr 13 2014, 10:36 AM.
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| Kefiroth | Apr 13 2014, 10:38 AM Post #32 |
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I can contact kero on Scorpio |
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| Cody11533 | Apr 13 2014, 10:40 AM Post #33 |
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I don't necessarily feel comfortable with our team taking such an aggressive leadership role, but if I was worried about that I probably shouldn't have joined such a kick-ass team, so I'll consent to the plan. I'm not sure if I have anyone to PM. Could we try one of the 2 people on Pisces who actually voted? |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 10:44 AM Post #34 |
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Unfortunately that would require quite a level of logistics. I don't think it's feasible in 36 hours.
Actually that's not a bad idea. Getting them into the game will be a good motivation to keep them loyal. Just remember, there are two main drawbacks of having too many allies: - We won't be able to team up with them in future challenges, which could be seen as a betrayal. - The chances of allying with an Appletachi increase. |
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| Kirbymuncher | Apr 13 2014, 10:46 AM Post #35 |
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Don't forget that we don't need to become full allies just to work together here, because it's very difficult to outright harm another team without harming yourself as well. Even teams that aren't enthusiastic towards a full alliance may be convinced to work together for just this challenge. |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 10:47 AM Post #36 |
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Raka just confirmed that Aries is in. I have told him that we may have a plan, not my post above in case we thought it was a bad idea. I'll tell him that we are still discussing the finer details and that I'll PM him shortly. |
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| Kefiroth | Apr 13 2014, 11:11 AM Post #37 |
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I apologize if I'm jumping the gun, but I went ahead and sent Kero your message up there, Baruch (although slightly modified for more conciliatory tone) |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 11:18 AM Post #38 |
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Could you post it, please? I know I suck at conciliatoriating, so it might be better to use your version. Also, I suppose we can go ahead with the plan? Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 13 2014, 11:20 AM.
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| Choco | Apr 13 2014, 11:24 AM Post #39 |
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I guess I can message someone too uhhhhhhhhm okay I pick Leo |
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| Kefiroth | Apr 13 2014, 11:25 AM Post #40 |
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| Choco | Apr 13 2014, 11:34 AM Post #41 |
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"item we suggest" probably sounds nicer than "item we tell you" |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 11:35 AM Post #42 |
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True dat. |
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| Choco | Apr 13 2014, 11:37 AM Post #43 |
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okay, sent a slightly modified version of kefi's post to quick-man from leo |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 11:41 AM Post #44 |
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We should also set a timeline for our allies, so that we have time to receive their answers, respond them and vote ourselves. How does 12 hours before the challenge's deadline sound? They'll have 20ish hours to talk amongst them. |
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| Dreamwalker | Apr 13 2014, 11:42 AM Post #45 |
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Jet replied to me. (Yes, I sent him a PM before even checking this topic because I saw he wanted to get something together in the Epic Struggle topic.) Re: What are you taking? I haven't decided yet, but probably a 2 points item. BTW, probably shouldn't tell you this, but INCEPTION's made an anti Gemini alliance with at least 4 teams currently in it. I don't know which teams though. Sent by: Jet_the_hawk79 on 4/13/2014 1:36:49 PM |
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 11:51 AM Post #46 |
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Well, chances are that they are doing something similar to us. Oh well. Also the chances of one of our allies being with Cancer is astronomical now. |
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| Choco | Apr 13 2014, 11:53 AM Post #47 |
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1. Why does he know that? 2. How likely is that to be true? 3. Why does he feel he shouldn't tell you? |
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| Kirbymuncher | Apr 13 2014, 11:57 AM Post #48 |
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I think the only reason he'd know the specifics is if his team is part of it. Edit: I also got a PM from jet, slightly less indepth, just saying he's pretty sure they're going for a 2 points item Edited by Kirbymuncher, Apr 13 2014, 11:59 AM.
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 11:58 AM Post #49 |
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I'd say INCEPTI0N approached him. Maybe he accepted or maybe he didn't; we can't tell. But even in the case he was a spy, we can go with our strategy and it won't affect us. Edited by ArchangelBaruch, Apr 13 2014, 11:58 AM.
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| ArchangelBaruch | Apr 13 2014, 12:06 PM Post #50 |
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PM sent to Aries. So far we sent to: Aries Leo Scorpio |
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