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Piccolo vs 50% FPSSJ Goku
Topic Started: Feb 2 2014, 03:25 PM (622 Views)
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I'm starting to see this as an even match.
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Yeah I have this one super tight with Kamiccolo slightly stronger by less than 5%.

It really depends on how much stronger you see 100 percent Goku than Trunks and Vegeta. I view 100 percent Goku as a total boss though that would effortlessly solo Future Trunks/Vegeta/Kamiccolo at the Cell games like he did Ginyu squad Recoome/Burter/Jeice. I thought it was implied by Vegeta that even worn down Goku [Goku post barrier] was still more powerful than the Z Senshi combined [excluding Gohan of course].

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So you've changed your opinion on Piccolo VS Base Saiyans?

Whilst I do believe Piccolo to have made hefty gains after the RoSaT, I'd still say Goku takes this without much effort. Piccolo needing to ask about his placement compared to Cell would suggest that he's only about the same level as Perfect Cell (vs. Vegeta/Trunks), who was far weaker than SSJ 3rd Grade Trunks, who I believe 50% Goku to be stronger than, or at least equal to. It could be said that Piccolo knew Cell was far stronger than what he witnessed, given he also heard Goku say that he didn't think he could win, yet made no question about Goku's Ki, although other than still standing against a Cell Jr, he doesn't have many feats or statements to place him on even terms with 50% Goku or Cell Games SSJ Vegeta/Trunks.
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Still going with SSjG3 Trunks > 50% MSSj Goku > Piccolo (CG)

Not seeing anything definitive for Piccolo's power. I don't count the Cell Jr. fight for much worth and I can't say there's any fact in him "knowing" Cell or Goku were holding back power.
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Stealing a point from Vic.

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Perfect Cell's real power is unknown until he actually unleashed it during his battle with Gohan.

However Goku was expecting that Perfect Cell would at minimum top out higher than his own full power.

So Goku considered Piccolo to be useless against a power greater than his own.


I see this as being completely valid.

Plus:

Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P5.3
Context: as the Cell Juniors beat everyone up
Cell (to Gohan): “If you don’t show your true worth soon, things will go past the point of no return. Look closely. Vegeta or Trunks are barely fighting evenly…Even Son Goku is in trouble, having lost his stamina…”
Note: Cell says that “Vegeta ya Trunks” are fighting evenly; ya is a non-exhaustive word for ‘and’, meaning the things listed aren’t necessarily the only things there are to list. In other words, Cell’s line doesn’t necessarily mean that nobody but Trunks or Vegeta are fighting evenly, just that they’re the first examples to come to mind.
Piccolo could be included in this, Cell just didn't mention him.
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Could be, might be, should be, yada yada.

Doesn't really matter what Goku thought in his comparison since Piccolo was the one bringing Cell into the equation.
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I expected the latter point to be brought up sooner or later. However, it still remains that the only thing Piccolo did to rival them was to stay standing against a Cell Jr, and him not being included in that statement would still show him to be below Vegeta/Trunks, whether it be by a little or a lot. Whilst Vic's point is a fair one, Piccolo himself was still unsure about how his own power compared to Cell's, with his only knowledge about his power being from him sensing Cell's battle with Vegeta/Trunks and Goku telling him that he didn't think he could beat Cell. Plus, Piccolo seemed to not question Goku saying that he stood no chance against Cell, and was still in awe at Goku's full power, leading to a likely chain of Perfect Cell (Piccolo's estimations)>50% Goku>>Piccolo.
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I love Piccolo, everybody knows that, but I don't think he's quite at 50% Goku. I would say a maximum of 45%, so it would be a tight match. Vegeta and Trunks was still fair ahead going into Cell Games. Vegeta should at the very least be 55% Goku.

I like this whole percentate measuring grade going on.



I agree with CC.
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If Piccolo was as strong or stronger than 50% Goku, he'd have no need for such pleasantries with the Saiyan. He'd lay it down like a true man.
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King Ghidorah
Feb 3 2014, 11:33 AM
If Piccolo was as strong or stronger than 50% Goku, he'd have no need for such pleasantries with the Saiyan. He'd lay it down like a true man.
And that makes no sense lol.
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