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Pre-Nail Piccolo's Power
Topic Started: Mar 16 2014, 05:19 AM (163 Views)
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We don't have much on Piccolo prior to merging with Nail, and what we do have is kind of vague.

Piccolo hadn't been able to sense Freeza while on Kaio's planet, all he knew was that Kaio was terrified of him. Kaio had ordered Goku not to fight him, or go near him for that matter. So Piccolo automatically knew that Freeza was much, much more fearsome than the likes of Vegeta.

Chapter: 293 (DBZ 99), P4.3
Context: Piccolo talking about wanting to fight Freeza
Piccolo: “My power has vastly increased here! I’ll definitely defeat him! Call me to that planet!”


Once again, Piccolo wasn't sure of how fearsome Freeza was, he just knew that he was much stronger than Vegeta.

Piccolo >>> Saiyan Arc Vegeta

Shortly after, Piccolo arrives on Namek.


Chapter: 294 (DBZ 100), P2.2
Piccolo: “I feel an outrageously large ki far away…! Is th-this the monster called Freeza…!? There’s three huge ki close by…! That must be Gohan and the others…!”


Here we have a direct statement from Piccolo proving his inferiority to Freeza. However, Piccolo is in no way admitting inferiority to Gohan and the others. Allow me to bring up a similar quote:

Chapter 337 (DBZ 143), P4.2
Kuririn: “I sense two huge ki near that mountain…That’s probably Yamcha and the others.”
Note: it’s Yamcha and Tenshinhan

This statement is identical in the way it is worded. Krillin is the strongest human as we know, yet he still calls Tenshinhan and Yamcha "huge ki's". So I think we can interpret this to mean that a huge ki can be pretty similar to your own. Now to apply this to the Namek situation, Piccolo calls Gohan and Krillin's ki huge. As we know, Vegeta considers these two to be valuable in the fight against Freeza. I don't like to throw out power levels for these types of things, but I would say they are around 200 000 to be considered assets. This is also backed up by Nail:

Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”


Considering that Nail can't even fathom Piccolo's power level, I believe it can be assumed that Piccolo is superior. Why is this? Simply because Nail has never seen or sensed Piccolo before, but he is still astounded by this power.

Freeza (somewhat suppressed) >> Piccolo >> Nail (42,000)

So Piccolo will be fitting somewhere in there. I already suggested a number like 200,000 so I will try to back that up further.

Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”


This part is pretty vague, but it can easy fit the description. Nail says that Piccolo will become "many" times greater. I think many would mean greater than two, but that's about as much as we can estimate. Many is a word used for describing plural, and two just doesn't seem to work with this. Three however seems more reasonable. By gaining 3x his strength, Piccolo would still have the power to defeat 1st Form Freeza as Nail is suggesting. Piccolo seems to think that gaining "many" times his power would be enough to beat Freeza too, as he is very tempted by the offer.

Again, this part is pretty vague, but I don't see a reason why Piccolo wouldn't be around 200,000.
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I'm pretty sure most of us here already go by this logic and place Piccolo>Gohan/Kuririn. Sorry to say, but this isn't really bringing anything groundbreaking to the table.
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I agree but I made the post for dbzf and ended up just pasting it here too.
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