Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to The Infinity Forum. Hope you enjoy your stay here!

You're currently viewing this as a guest, and guests cannot view all the marvelous features this forum has to offer, so register now!

Join our community!


If you're already a member, then sign in! You're definitely missing out!

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
SSjin Goten (EoZ) vs. SSjin 3 Goku (Boo Saga)
Topic Started: Apr 5 2014, 03:23 PM (410 Views)
Posted Image Kite
Member Avatar

Who wins?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image SIAD

Interesting question. To my EOZ has 2 faces.

  One is by DBZ logic where SSJS multipliers remain.

   The other is after logic DBGT where SSJS multipliers are equal to those of DBGT.

   In both cases I have a hypothetical SSJ2 Goten and Trunks SSJ2 (According logic DBZ) = SSJ2 Goten and Trunks SSJ2 (According Logic DBGT). I have this:

  SSJ3 Goku (Boo)> Kid Buu> Goku = Base (EOZ)> Base Vegeta (EOZ) >>>> SSJ2 Trunks (EOZ)> = SSJ2 Goten (EOZ)> Pan => = Mr Boo.

   So SSJ3 Goku crushes.

   Even knowing that I knew Mr Goten was still being more powerful than Goku and said that he gets for not training hard.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image Kite
Member Avatar

SIAD
Apr 5 2014, 03:30 PM
SSJ3 Goku (Boo)> Kid Buu> Goku = Base (EOZ)> Base Vegeta (EOZ) >>>> SSJ2 Trunks (EOZ)> = SSJ2 Goten (EOZ)> Pan => = Mr Boo.

So SSJ3 Goku crushes.

Even knowing that I knew Mr Goten was still being more powerful than Goku and said that he gets for not training hard.
I don't think that Goku was talking about SSjin. I think the rule is still there, restricting SSjin, and that's why Goten was surprised when he was put against Boo.

With SSjin, I think he can safely defeat Fat Boo, so him vs. SSjin 3 Goku seems like a fine match imo.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image Captain Cadaver
Member Avatar

While I'm one of the few who believes Goten did get a fair bit stronger in between the Boo Arc and Battle of Gods, I see nothing to suggest he gained anywhere near that kind of power, especially considering he was extremely worried about going up against Good Boo in the Tenkaichi Budokai.

At the very most, I'd see him being on Super Perfect Cell's level, and even that's being generous.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image nys
Member Avatar
niggas in pears
Yeah the kids haven't got much stronger by the EoZ, didn't they actually slack off a bit iirc?

Either way Goku still takes the cake here.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image Kite
Member Avatar

Captain Cadaver
Apr 5 2014, 04:00 PM
While I'm one of the few who believes Goten did get a fair bit stronger in between the Boo Arc and Battle of Gods, I see nothing to suggest he gained anywhere near that kind of power, especially considering he was extremely worried about going up against Good Boo in the Tenkaichi Budokai.

At the very most, I'd see him being on Super Perfect Cell's level, and even that's being generous.
So you're thinking that Goten was considering Super Saiyan at that time? The last time he participated in the TB, he was told times to not use SSjin. He used it because he was a kid. Not he's grown up. He won't break the rule.

Also Goten didn't hear about the TB until when he was fighting Goku on panel. I think he didn't want to participate, but was forced. I think he has on mind that there's no SSjin, and that's why he was worried going against Good Boo.

What do you think?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image SIAD

Kite
Apr 6 2014, 03:38 PM
Captain Cadaver
Apr 5 2014, 04:00 PM
While I'm one of the few who believes Goten did get a fair bit stronger in between the Boo Arc and Battle of Gods, I see nothing to suggest he gained anywhere near that kind of power, especially considering he was extremely worried about going up against Good Boo in the Tenkaichi Budokai.

At the very most, I'd see him being on Super Perfect Cell's level, and even that's being generous.
So you're thinking that Goten was considering Super Saiyan at that time? The last time he participated in the TB, he was told times to not use SSjin. He used it because he was a kid. Not he's grown up. He won't break the rule.

Also Goten didn't hear about the TB until when he was fighting Goku on panel. I think he didn't want to participate, but was forced. I think he has on mind that there's no SSjin, and that's why he was worried going against Good Boo.

What do you think?
That rule was initially for the TB25, lest they discover that Gohan and company were aliens or extraordinary beings, however were SSJ Goten and Trunks and Gohan himself revealed his identity to everyone and turned into SSJ2. So if you meant SSJ Goten could not against Mr Boo.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image Kite
Member Avatar

SIAD
Apr 6 2014, 04:33 PM
Kite
Apr 6 2014, 03:38 PM
Captain Cadaver
Apr 5 2014, 04:00 PM
While I'm one of the few who believes Goten did get a fair bit stronger in between the Boo Arc and Battle of Gods, I see nothing to suggest he gained anywhere near that kind of power, especially considering he was extremely worried about going up against Good Boo in the Tenkaichi Budokai.

At the very most, I'd see him being on Super Perfect Cell's level, and even that's being generous.
So you're thinking that Goten was considering Super Saiyan at that time? The last time he participated in the TB, he was told times to not use SSjin. He used it because he was a kid. Not he's grown up. He won't break the rule.

Also Goten didn't hear about the TB until when he was fighting Goku on panel. I think he didn't want to participate, but was forced. I think he has on mind that there's no SSjin, and that's why he was worried going against Good Boo.

What do you think?
That rule was initially for the TB25, lest they discover that Gohan and company were aliens or extraordinary beings, however were SSJ Goten and Trunks and Gohan himself revealed his identity to everyone and turned into SSJ2. So if you meant SSJ Goten could not against Mr Boo.
But I doubt they would let themselves to be known again. None knew them at the TB, and acknowledged them. It's like they forgot, or something. I think it still stands. If the people really knew who they were, then they would cheer them.

I think it still stands.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image Captain Cadaver
Member Avatar

Kite
Apr 6 2014, 03:38 PM
So you're thinking that Goten was considering Super Saiyan at that time? The last time he participated in the TB, he was told times to not use SSjin. He used it because he was a kid. Not he's grown up. He won't break the rule.
Also Goten didn't hear about the TB until when he was fighting Goku on panel. I think he didn't want to participate, but was forced. I think he has on mind that there's no SSjin, and that's why he was worried going against Good Boo.
It was established that he already knew about the TB, otherwise he wouldn't have been sparring with Goku in the first place given his attitude towards it. Whilst the "No SSJ" rule may still apply, I see no reason for it to matter when we have nothing to suggest it being a game changer for Goten against Boo anyway.

Quote:
 
Yeah the kids haven't got much stronger by the EoZ, didn't they actually slack off a bit iirc?
Yeah, although considering their competitive attitude presented during the Boo Arc, they probably didn't slack off immediately after Boo's defeat and likely got stronger by some degree.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Posted Image Kite
Member Avatar

Captain Cadaver
Apr 6 2014, 07:13 PM
Kite
Apr 6 2014, 03:38 PM
So you're thinking that Goten was considering Super Saiyan at that time? The last time he participated in the TB, he was told times to not use SSjin. He used it because he was a kid. Not he's grown up. He won't break the rule.
Also Goten didn't hear about the TB until when he was fighting Goku on panel. I think he didn't want to participate, but was forced. I think he has on mind that there's no SSjin, and that's why he was worried going against Good Boo.
It was established that he already knew about the TB, otherwise he wouldn't have been sparring with Goku in the first place given his attitude towards it. Whilst the "No SSJ" rule may still apply, I see no reason for it to matter when we have nothing to suggest it being a game changer for Goten against Boo anyway.
Goten was worried when he was put against Boo, but was he doubting his chances of winning? If he had no chance whatsoever, his reaction would be even more extreme. Like outright saying "I don't even have a chance against him" or something of that sort.

So he actually has some chance in base. In SSjin, which boosts his strength nearly a dozen time, he'd stomp Good Boo with no effort.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
ZetaBoards gives you all the tools to create a successful discussion community.
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Dragon Ball · Next Topic »
Add Reply