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Theories you came up with?
Topic Started: Jun 23 2014, 12:45 AM (1,239 Views)
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Jul 11 2014, 03:23 PM
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Jul 11 2014, 12:58 AM
My theory is that Gohan can still go SSJ but he had to bring his Base form to a point were his SSJ could surpass his "Mystic" self.

That would also explain why he still uses his "Mystic" form in BoG but he uses it in GT because by then, he would have made his SSJ or even his Base form strong than his "Mystic" state.
I don't see how this can be. GT is filler so we don't really need to consider that shit if we're talking in relations to canooononon, and non canoononon. It's simply a mistake by the writers where they wanted Gohan to go SSj just for the only purpose of having that imagery of multiple Super Saiyans to get Goku in SSG mode, but whether or not Pan can go SSj as an unborn baby is another question and plothole that leaves the movie. They simply could have just kept everyone in base or something.
But they did have Gohan fight in his Ultimate state prior to that.

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Mystic isn't a form Yusuke.


Maybe not a form but a special reserve of power that is totally separate from SSJ. That's how I view it.

If that wasn't the case with Gohan, why didn't he pop out SSJ against Buutenks and whoop him good?
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Mastering Super Saiyan simply means other stats raise to match Super Saiyan power.
Base (Max) < Super Saiyan (Max) < Super Saiyan 2 (Min).
1.25 in terms of power is a significant power increase.
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Yusuke
Jul 12 2014, 05:09 AM
Syn
Jul 11 2014, 03:23 PM
Yusuke
Jul 11 2014, 12:58 AM
My theory is that Gohan can still go SSJ but he had to bring his Base form to a point were his SSJ could surpass his "Mystic" self.

That would also explain why he still uses his "Mystic" form in BoG but he uses it in GT because by then, he would have made his SSJ or even his Base form strong than his "Mystic" state.
I don't see how this can be. GT is filler so we don't really need to consider that shit if we're talking in relations to canooononon, and non canoononon. It's simply a mistake by the writers where they wanted Gohan to go SSj just for the only purpose of having that imagery of multiple Super Saiyans to get Goku in SSG mode, but whether or not Pan can go SSj as an unborn baby is another question and plothole that leaves the movie. They simply could have just kept everyone in base or something.
But they did have Gohan fight in his Ultimate state prior to that.

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Mystic isn't a form Yusuke.


Maybe not a form but a special reserve of power that is totally separate from SSJ. That's how I view it.

If that wasn't the case with Gohan, why didn't he pop out SSJ against Buutenks and whoop him good?
He had no more power to give... His potential was maxed out.
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Jul 12 2014, 05:19 AM
Yusuke
Jul 12 2014, 05:09 AM
Syn
Jul 11 2014, 03:23 PM
Yusuke
Jul 11 2014, 12:58 AM
My theory is that Gohan can still go SSJ but he had to bring his Base form to a point were his SSJ could surpass his "Mystic" self.

That would also explain why he still uses his "Mystic" form in BoG but he uses it in GT because by then, he would have made his SSJ or even his Base form strong than his "Mystic" state.
I don't see how this can be. GT is filler so we don't really need to consider that shit if we're talking in relations to canooononon, and non canoononon. It's simply a mistake by the writers where they wanted Gohan to go SSj just for the only purpose of having that imagery of multiple Super Saiyans to get Goku in SSG mode, but whether or not Pan can go SSj as an unborn baby is another question and plothole that leaves the movie. They simply could have just kept everyone in base or something.
But they did have Gohan fight in his Ultimate state prior to that.

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Mystic isn't a form Yusuke.


Maybe not a form but a special reserve of power that is totally separate from SSJ. That's how I view it.

If that wasn't the case with Gohan, why didn't he pop out SSJ against Buutenks and whoop him good?
He had no more power to give... His potential was maxed out.
SSJ doesn't rely on Potential though.

It's always a multiplicative boost.
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A boost of power that you have though. When you are at your limit, there is no way to multiply that power.
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Jul 12 2014, 05:25 AM
A boost of power that you have though. When you are at your limit, there is no way to multiply that power.
Why is that? Is their an established rule for that?
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Logic dictates it. Super Saiyan is basically unleashing your hidden reserves, and controlling it into a form. The next transformations do the same, they all rely on your dormant power. They may be multiplicative, but I would think when you have your potential brought past it's absolute max, then you would not get anything out of the transformation. When you are maxed out, you literally have nothing left to give.
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Jul 12 2014, 05:29 AM
Logic dictates it. Super Saiyan is basically unleashing your hidden reserves, and controlling it into a form. The next transformations do the same, they all rely on your dormant power. They may be multiplicative, but I would think when you have your potential brought past it's absolute max, then you would not get anything out of the transformation. When you are maxed out, you literally have nothing left to give.
Yeah but is their anything official to prove what your saying?

That's a good theory but I don't think SSJ rely's on Potential at all.
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It's because it's not an amplifier, it's a transformation. A transformation is literally an extension of your own abilities.
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Jul 12 2014, 05:35 AM
It's because it's not an amplifier, it's a transformation. A transformation is literally an extension of your own abilities.
Even so, what's their not to say that Gohan's "Mystic" power isn't a different reserve from his SSJ power?
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