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Is this true Oob (Enraged)> = Base Goku (TB28)> Base Vegeta (TB28)> Base Gohan (TB28) = Mystic Gohan
Topic Started: Jul 5 2014, 04:06 AM (863 Views)
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It seems like a possibility, considering Goku's feats in base against Beerus, and for what it's worth, a Daizenshuu statement that Oob has the potential to become a warrior unlike any seen before (not taking into account BoG characters), although GT is a non-factor due to being non-canon. Powerscaling would suggest such as well, since SSJ Goku retained his God powers, which were almost that of his SSJ God form.

It's still questionable though, as an enraged Oob being not just above his previous incarnation, but far, far stronger despite his lack of control just seems to be off.
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Just agree with him CC. He worked hard for this. Real talk
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CC, then believe this:

  SSJ Goku (TB28)> = SSJ3 Goku (BoG) = Vegeta SSJ (TB28)> SSJ Gohan (TB28 / BoG) >>>>> Base Gohan (TB28 / BoG) = Gohan Mistico (boo)> SSJ3 Gotenks (Post) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Gotenks (Post)> SSJ Gotenks (Pre)> SSJ3 Goku (Boo)> Kid Buu = Oob (Enraged)> = Base Goku (TB28 ) >>>>>> Base Goku (BoG)?

   But the big problem is as a simple multiplier of 50 times SSJ on its base, it will close the tremendous gap between Goku SSJ (TB28)> Gohan SSJ (TB28) >> Gohan Base (TB28) = Gohan Mistico (boo)> >>>>>>>>>> SSJ3 Goku (Boo)> Kid Buu = Oob (Enraged)> = Base Goku (BoG).

   Apart multipliers for Gotenks and SSJ Gohan Mistico should not be nerfed. So if so, the SSJ multiplier on its own Base Goku and Vegeta should be at least 10,000 times or more. CC you think?
Edited by SIAD, Jul 7 2014, 01:13 AM.
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SIAD, I think I agree with you, the multiplier for SSJ Goku and Vegeta (TB28 / BoG) should be at least many tens of thousands of times on their bases. Could you give me your numbers assuming SSJ3 Goku (Boo) = 1.
Edited by OGEID, Jul 7 2014, 04:19 PM.
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Based on what Toriyama's said regarding Goku's power in BoG, Goku shouldn't have lost the God-given power he received. Therefore, SSJ Goku (28th TB) > SSJ Goku (Post-God). The same should apply to SSJ Vegeta, given his statement about being close to surpassing Goku at the end of the manga in the Kanzeban edition.

Everything else you said seems fine though. Whilst having a gigantic multiplier for Goku and Vegeta seems to be something that should have it's limits to some degree, their power is overall plot dictated, regardless of fan battle powers and equations. It could also be considered possible that Goku wasn't going all out against Oob. Even though he did seem to be putting forth some effort, it could've simply been the "Tournament level" that he'd constantly done in the 22nd and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai.
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Jul 7 2014, 06:52 PM
Based on what Toriyama's said regarding Goku's power in BoG, Goku shouldn't have lost the God-given power he received. Therefore, SSJ Goku (28th TB) > SSJ Goku (Post-God). The same should apply to SSJ Vegeta, given his statement about being close to surpassing Goku at the end of the manga in the Kanzeban edition.

Everything else you said seems fine though. Whilst having a gigantic multiplier for Goku and Vegeta seems to be something that should have it's limits to some degree, their power is overall plot dictated, regardless of fan battle powers and equations. It could also be considered possible that Goku wasn't going all out against Oob. Even though he did seem to be putting forth some effort, it could've simply been the "Tournament level" that he'd constantly done in the 22nd and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai.
Then Goku SSJG (BoG) = SSJ Goku (TB28)> = SSJ Goku (Post God) = Vegeta SSJ (TB28) >>>>> Base Goku (TB28) is> Base Vegeta (TB28) Gohan >>>>>> SSJ (TB28 / BoG) >> Gohan Base (TB28 / BoG) >>> Mystic Gohan = Kid Buu = Oob (Enraged) = Base Goku (Deleted TB 28). Interesting, then Goku Base (TB28) and Base Vegeta (TB28) should sweep even SSJ4 Gogeta and Vegetto SSJ4 easily. Probably Base Goku (vs OoB) was so removed or deleted to even more against the Z Warriors Bills.

Even Goku / Vegeta Base (BoG) are >>>>> Kid Boo.

   Thank you CC.
Edited by SIAD, Jul 7 2014, 07:36 PM.
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Interesting.
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Yes, indeed.
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Can I get a shorter version?
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Jul 8 2014, 04:50 AM
Can I get a shorter version?
In BoG we have this: Goku SSJ3 (BoG)> SSJ Gohan (BoG) >>>>>> Gotenks SSJ3 (BoG Hypothetical) >> Goku / Vegeta SSJ2 (BoG)> Base Gohan (BoG) = Mystic Gohan. When Goku back to Earth to turn to face against Bills, everyone was happy, even Gohan. Then Goku becomes SSJG this fight for a while in the form of God, then Goku returns to his base state (But one Base been totally beyond any character in DBZ / DBGT), Bills humiliates this surprising Base Goku (Post God ), the latter is transformed into SSJ (Equating power SSJG), Bills was still having a clear advantage and this gives him a Supernova, SSJ Goku (Post God) have trouble receiving it, but manages to absorb SSJG transforming again (probably now is a bit more than your old SSJG fuuerte, but still behind Bills 70%). Goku after the fight was practically a God compared to the rest.

  In TB28 Base Goku and Vegeta were at least as strong as Base Goku (Post God) but still much stronger in SSJ and both must be be at least as powerful as Goku SSJG, but much more powerful still. As Goku vs Uub, Goku Base was completely deleted.

   I have the following string:

Wiss >> Bills >> Bills (70%)> SSJG Goku (Post God)> Bills 70% (Supernova Attack)> Goku SSJG (First time) = SSJ Goku (Post God)> Bills (50%)> = Goku SSJG (80%) >>>>>> Base Goku (Post God)> Trunkten SSJ4 (SD) >>>> Gotenks SSJ4 (SD) >> Vegetto SSJ4 (SD) >>>> Gogeta SSJ4 (SD) >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) >>>>> SSJ Vegetto (Boo) >> SSJ3 Goku (BoG / M13) > SSJ Gohan (TB28 / BoG) >>>> Goku / Vegeta SSJ2 (BoG / M13)> Mystic Gohan (Boo) = Base Gohan (TB28 / BoG)> SSJ3 Gotenks (Post) >>>>>>>>> >> Gotenks (Base (Post) >>> Gotenks (SSJ (Pre)> SSJ3 Goku (Boo)> Kid Buu = Oob TB28 (Enraged)> = Base Goku TB28 (Deleted).

   Goku and Vegeta (TB28) were as least as powerful as Goku (Post God) both Base and SSJ. As for the battle between Goku vs Oob; Base Goku was deleted tremendously as did in the tournaments 22 and 23.

   If we talk about TB28 thinking about the logic of DBGT, Gohan does not SSJ and is tremendously more powerful than SSJ3 Goku (TB28). As for Goku (TB28) as of DBGT Logica; Base Goku was fighting against all Oob enraged.

   Both logics are infinitely different.

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