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New Map Disscussions
Topic Started: January 11 2013, 06:48 PM (2,010 Views)
Harry64
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The Republic of Saxoiy
Well this thread as the title suggests is regarding the creation and introduction of a new RP map.

Please use this thread to give idea, thought and discussion regarding a new regional RP map.

Thank you,

Senator Cox
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Tu'Nasai
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I say you might as well just start doing the map Nep

As for your nation the entire system wouldn't work. The entire system would collapse on itself within decades. A Military that size isn't sustainable on your economy. You cannot just get everything free. Sparta only worked because it was small. Your 4 billion people large, its simply unsustainable
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Mikhael Talleyrand
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It's very sustainable. It would function and work. You have yet to give a good argument to counter mine. You haven't outlined why I wouldn't be able to sustain it, or how the economy would collapse.
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The Ruescher Empire
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Boy howdy there are many reasons...People are simply too varied for that sort of system. Keep in mind a good present day equivalent of this "Sparta" model is North Korea. Everything is built and designed to support the military there, roughly 1/24th of their population is active in the armed forces and that is a level that is barely sustainable. On the surface the military and the nation looks unified, however in a total war scenario it would collapse extremely fast as people would take advantage of the weakened regime and seek power/freedom for themselves. In truth you can have a total population devoted to the military, but when that military is weakened past a certain threshold its is likely to collapse, or at least face internal struggles. That's why having your pop devoted to the military is fine, just don't expect to be able to use that entire pop :P
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Tu'Nasai
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he is exactly right, North Korea's economy is in shambles as free enterprise is unilaterally directed toward military production. With little pay, and in your case, no pay people have no incentive to work. Their entire existence is based on serving the state. They get no money, no luxury, and no matter what they get the same thing as the next guy. People have little incentive to work. In a fight their morale is low. In North Korea desertion is common, among the military and populace. In any conflict North Korea would collapse on itself. And with all money going toward military people are still and mostly starving and live in fear of a government in which they have no control over.

Essentially, your citizens are slaves to the state
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pajaritos
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you could also take china as an example as why this is possible. You only think its not possible because you don't believe people are capable of commiting to a governemt stucture such as this
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The Ruescher Empire
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Both North Korea and China's government exists only as long as their governments maintain the illusion of strength, in any situation of total war (or in North Korea's case, minor war) the institution of government as it exists would collapse. North Korea knows this, that's why it places enough artillery to kill millions in South Korea with the opening volley, because it knows it cannot sustain a war effort, and lacks proper nuclear deterrence (a few bombs is nothing). Its also why China is very careful about keeping people happy, enough not to rebel in numbers
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Harry64
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Well i see no problem with the nation itself... The problem i see is if i was to do a war RP with that nation i would always get destroyed and i find that unfair as what is being said is that you have this HUGE militery that is HIGHLY disaplined and loyal!
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The Ruescher Empire
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He can say that all he wants, realities are different :P His whole nation can be involved in the military but its not like he can deploy it, he would have to keep most of it behind to ensure his population doesn't revolt. Not to mention there are tactics to fight him, propaganda and that sort of thing.
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Harry64
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Yes very true, i just find the whole thing annoying as although he isnt actually god modding he pretty much is as he has made an all powerful nation by worming around all of the problems.

But oh well, we will see what happens when and if it does happen...
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The Ruescher Empire
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North Korea also claims it's an all powerful nation :P
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