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| Jone Norfolk | Dec 19 2014, 05:31 PM Post #1 |
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Greetings TNI, For those who don't know me, I've been playing NationStates, on and off, since 2005. I've been involved in mostly defender regions at that time, mostly calling the Global Right Alliance my home for the longest chronological period. I was at one time Vice Chancellor of the Founderless Regions Alliance and also served as the Minister of Intelligence back in 06'/07'. I went under the moniker Jonewest back then. So, what's changed? Time. After coming back I found myself mingling with everyone across the spectrum, being a "moral" defender in prior years did not allot me that opportunity, sadly. I am now the Heir Apparent (Prince of Wales) for the British Isles, an independent region with some experienced imperialist/raider types. It is my aim to foster the continued growth of the British Isles and in part my duty as Prince is to assist with our Foreign relations. So feel free to ask any questions, or make any comments you wish. Yours in Sincerity, ![]() His Royal Highness Prince Jone of Wales, House of Norfolk, World Assembly Delegate (British Isles) |
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| OnderKelkia | Dec 20 2014, 01:57 AM Post #2 |
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A somewhat misleading introduction.
Don't be so modest about 'back then' as you choose to present it. Your period as Vice Chancellor of the FRA, indeed as Acting Arch-Chancellor for a period, was earlier this year. Given the activity of Karputsk, you essentially ran the FRA for a period, however brief, in mid-2014. That's not 'back then' at all. You have also been FRA Minister of Intelligence much more recently than 06'/07' (although considering the FRA's anti-TNI actions date back to 2006, that is not a very persuasive argument anyway). Indeed, you were the FRA Intelligence Minister in June 2010. It was that month when your GRA colleague Chin-Chillas was so generous as to enter a close ally of TNI as a spy under the persona 'Michael Blomos'. In any case, you have been a leading member of the Global Right Alliance, a founding member-region of the FRA. Due to the GRA's membership in the FRA, we are at war with the GRA. You have had senior roles in the military and intelligence services of the GRA. Indeed, You are a current administrator on their forums. Your link to them has hardly been cut. Your connections with the FRA are very far from peripheral.
Not very much time has lapsed since mid-2014, in the context of your NS career beginning in 2005. However, no one could be more pleased than I about someone abandoning idealistic defending for Independence and imperialism. If you have genuinely had a Damascene conversion and now intend to break from both the FRA and the GRA for good, then we can welcome you. What is your perspective on our war with the FRA and will you condemn the FRA unequivocally? Until you have renounced your membership in the Global Right Alliance, we cannot grant you citizenship or diplomatic status. British Isles is welcome to improve relations and enhance its connections with imperialism. It is welcome to send another ambassador. However, TNI does not welcome former FRA intelligence ministers unless they have truly repented - sketching over your past will not do. |
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| Viktoria von Hohenzollern | Dec 20 2014, 04:05 PM Post #3 |
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SQUEEK!
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there's no such thing as a moral defender anymore. even the people who I considered decent defenders (mostly Lazarus members) have now become some of the most disgraceful and immoral people I have ever had the misfortune to know. May Lazarus burn! buuuuuuurn. |
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| Jone Norfolk | Jan 9 2015, 01:27 AM Post #4 |
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I appreciate your thorough research into my activities Onder. I also want to apologize for not responding sooner, I had more or less not come back here for some reason. This is truly my first time reading it today. To address some of your concerns, FRA involvment, I haven't had much involvement with the FRA since I was the De Facto Arch Chancellor. In fact I believe I've only talked with Dyr and Joe Bobs post my leaving. I hold no love or loyalty to the organization however. I have fond memories, but my association there was a political one for the betterment of my home region. In your request for me to denounce them I could find that reasonable. GRA involvment, it is regrettable that there is an apparent war between TNI and GRA. However, as of I guess Summer this year the GRA has returned to stagnation. As for denouncing the GRA, that is not something I can or am willing to do. I have been a member there for close to 9 years. I have friends there that have outlived any of my political endeavors. To ask me to denounce a region I have been a part of for so long, especially one that is essentially dead, is a bit of a ridiculous request. BI, it is unfortunate that you wish to place this condition on an otherwise potentially fruitful partnership. I would prefer that we could work together rather than apart (I say we as in Jone and Onder). |
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| OnderKelkia | Jan 10 2015, 01:09 AM Post #5 |
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Allow me to assure you that no research was required. I was perfectly aware of your activities prior to your arrival here.
Although it appears that the core of the concerns, regarding the misleading impression of your association with the FRA conveyed in your first post, has not been addressed.
If you read my earlier post, you will see that you were not asked to denounce the GRA. You were merely asked to cut all ties with the GRA owing to the region's close and significant association with the FRA as one its historically leading regions. You were asked to denounce the FRA, a request which you say you find reasonable.
Given your attitude to our war with the FRA, including the GRA, and lack of recognition of the problems inherent in your continued loyalty to the GRA, there is little scope for that. We will conclude this matter. |
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| Caleb Fominov III | Jan 10 2015, 07:22 AM Post #6 |
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