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Day/Night 4
Topic Started: May 29 2013, 10:38 PM (395 Views)
Thundawave
Regine
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Let's see what happens now. Welcome your new additions!
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bluejay
Jasper
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Damn. At least I managed to make myself a target enough that a kill was wasted, but unfortunately it appears the Vigilante got a townie to make up for that.

Well, I'm fairly sure Mark is mafia, given that he can only be the Tracker, Framer, or Thief. Davey is the Amnesiac turned Sheriff.

That's solely based off my night results. Was going to investigate Vincent.

EDIT: Oh, forgot I was cleaned. I'm the Investigator, if you couldn't tell already. Going to read through dead chat and make a roles list about who I think is what.

EDIT2: Here it is! My guesses.

Max (Godfather) - Beast Boy
Mafioso - Kyogre
Framer/Thief - Tiamo
Janitor
Serial Killer
Student - Flying Lotus
Amnesiac - TheWhymsicalOne
Sheriff - Moon Moon
Doctor
Investigator - Bluejay
Vigilante - Primal Dialga
Watcher - H!p$£r B0!1098
Hidden Team Elm Member
Citizen - Boss
Citizen - Zallow
Citizen - Nicolas Cage
Citizen - Mihael Keehl
Citizen

Unsorted: Kaity, :::...Quil...:::, JessKat (cannot be mafia or serial killer), RukuTehWolf, GMasterShuboltz
Edited by bluejay, May 30 2013, 12:44 AM.
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bluejay
Jasper
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Simply put, I was hoping for prolonged survival because I had a plan I would have set into action. Obviously, I would have claimed, singled out Mark (maybe Vincent too, depending on what I would have gotten from checking him), and took a more active role in leading town. Following that, I would have continued the pressure, this time on the less active people who I had not checked (namely, everyone on the unsorted list). Austin being a Citizen is not surprising in the least and I;ve already guessed it; the only problematic thing would have been the blackmail (it was fake? whaaaaat why are they doing that then, if one of them dies the entire scheme is blown). But I suppose that would have resolved itself sooner or later.

The sad part is, if I had lived, maybe Davey wouldn't be forced to reveal nearly as quickly as I suspect will happen; he's already attracted the attention of people who will continue to pressure him.

I'd also like to respond to a few things brought up in previous days in dead chat:

-As stated earlier, I believed Austin was town right off the bat. You will hardly, if ever, see this type of play from mafia. It's almost always some town role who leads day chat like the way he is doing, and more often than not, it's a Citizen. This is speaking solely from experience. Hence, I never bothered with checking him because I already guessed what his role was (and I was right). Sure his methods can be quite harsh on the people he accuses...but this is really how you need to play Citizen. You have nothing to lose; any sensible argument and reading-between-the-lines evidence you come up with, you speak it.
-I think I misread one of his posts on Day 3 incorrectly or something at first, but it's clear to me now that he wanted to take no chances with Sean's last shot. Keeping Sean alive for today, at least, helps narrow down possible mafia candidates as the person who dies instead is probably someone who has a questionable alignment, regardless of whether Sean shoots or not. In addition, speaking openly about this adds the WIFOM to what the mafia and serial killer will do. He's telling them, bluntly, that he's their best target, but as you can tell, it sure didn't happen. Maaaaybe he changed his opinion/thoughts on that matter, but in either case, it's a tricky dilemma to solve if you are the Vigilante. You have one shot. Do you wait and risk losing that shot by getting killed, or do you shoot immediately?
-Regardless, Zane wasn't the best choice. At least he was active.
-Whether to lynch with 2 KPN instead of 1 is just playstyle, really. Today, there's no real loss in lynching, as town will lose a majority if they don't lynch today anyway. (6 to 4, would be worse if the Amnesiac hadn't turned Sheriff)
-Why wasn't Boss given a name of a Marriland forums user?
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Thundawave
Regine
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Three people need to reveal today if Town wants to win.

Boss had a name, but I guess that I just didn't put it up in the Graveyard.

Also, you would have gotten Doctor/Coroner/Mortician/Janitor/Graverobber for Vincent.
Edited by Thundawave, May 30 2013, 01:38 AM.
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Klave
Alive and Well
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The reason I wouldn't be sure on Austin would be due to how Mark played last version. He was Mafia and basically led the town which is why I'd be more suspicious of everyone.

Zane dying was sad. He could have pushed the fake Blackmail and Chris might have been lynched. I thought him and Davey were town once it was revealed that Chris was Mafia, as well as Davey's defence.

I thought Mark might be Mafia because he put down the fake Blackmail theory quickly and he was against Davey. But now there is essentially proof he is. I think Hubert or Luke may be the last Mafia. I will VOTE TO REVEAL HUBERT.

I also thought Bluejay was potential Mafia due to being quiet, but no. ;D
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Klave
Alive and Well
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If Sean didn't shoot Town it would have been 7-4, worse if SK chose someone else. I guess a 4-4 situation is town loss. I would have supported Sean to wait a night, for higher accuracy in his shot and more info.
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Romeo
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Don't want to sound arrogant, but I think Jess is the SK, purely because she killed me on N1. Given how close Jess and I are as friends, and how I helped to argue against her last game (personal revenge), it would have been smart to have killed me. She's been shady all game, so it only makes sense to accuse her of the final mafia role or the SK role. Without information, you always go for somebody who isn't amazing at Mafia, but isn't like Toast (lol). I fit into that category. When I was arsonist, and I didn't know who to go for, I chose personal targets to start out with.
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Wotter
Erica
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"There might be a Consig"

HAHAHAHAHAHA THAT'S GREAT QUIL
@Bluejay: Mark is Framer, so you got most of the Mafia right.
Edited by Wotter, May 30 2013, 07:32 AM.
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bluejay
Jasper
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I dunno, I don't think Mark dominated discussion in V3 as much as Austin is in this game. IIRC, you and Romeo posted a lot, and although it doesn't support my point, I tried to do the same thing.

I find it odd that the fact that power roles are dying to mafia is a tell-tale sign that there is a Consig. No, it's not. The chances of them finding this many town power roles in a row is not very high.

A fake blackmail isn't enough to convict someone until you prove it is fake, though.

@Romeo: Apparently Vapo got an unsuspicious result on Jess, so Jess being SK isn't a possibility (even a framing would give a suspicious result). It's one of Kaity, Quil, and Luke.
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Klave
Alive and Well
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By the time town realize no one else has been blackmailed / Chris dies, it might be too late to do anything. I think if they hit Chris, they can take down Mark too since he was against Davey for pushing fake blackmail. Speaking of Davey, he should roleclaim already! Town are lingering on him too much, and if they think there is a Consig, surely he'll be found soon enough. Though if Mark framed a lot, Davey might go accusing the wrong person. He'll probably check Mark/Austin first to do something useful. At the very least, he is a good meatshield. Also Kaity said Chris is confirmed town. </3 They should at least be open to him being SK too.
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Thundawave
Regine
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Ugh, reveal already, you three people. There's a reason why it will help greatly.
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Thundawave
Regine
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Town needs to get rid of SK/SK needs to hit Mafia soon, or else it's game over, even if Town makes correct lynches.
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Romeo
Alive and Well
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Lol, Town have lost this.
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Wotter
Erica
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"I think there's a possibility of a Consigliere"

HAHAHAHAHAHA THAT'S GREAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE MAFIA
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Thundawave
Regine
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Masons, reveal yourselves.

Davey, make a roleclaim and settle everything.
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Klave
Alive and Well
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Oh crap there was a Mason Leader? o.o

So Hubert is Mafia, three of Luke/Jess/Vince/Kaity are Masonicalities and one SK?

I just want to know who SK is at the moment. ;-;
SPECIAL REVEAL!
Edited by Klave, May 30 2013, 05:59 PM.
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Wotter
Erica
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What no. .-. Kaity's Mafia.

/reveal Jess
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Hane Zallow
Devin
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I WAS RIGHT AUSTIN AIN'T MAFIA WOOHOO!!! He wasn't SK too, but I needed to be careful, a bit... But damn everyone who thought I was accusing Austin as SK ;_;

Tch I had a feeling the vigil would shoot me, looks like I was right. I'm happy I fulfilled my meatshielding purposes and happy I used my power s a citizen to make use of the day chat, but sad that the vigil shot me. *sigh* I still have lots to learn.
Edited by Hane Zallow, May 30 2013, 08:39 PM.
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Thundawave
Regine
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Sadly, I'm just a Citizen. I don't really like being one, and I'm almost always inactive when I am. Tried to be more active so far, but apparently everyone disagrees.
And that's when the Masons should reveal. Goodbye, Hubert. Nice knowing you alive.
Edited by Thundawave, May 30 2013, 09:59 PM.
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bluejay
Jasper
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Dangit, guys, I wanted to figure out the rest myself. Now I know everyone's role.
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