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"runs on the smell of an oily rag"; Fuel economy
Topic Started: Jul 16 2014, 10:12 AM (414 Views)
papasmurf
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Last weekend I took the "Royal Oilfield" to a motorcycle rally some distance away. (Someone else was carrying the camping equipment.)

The "Oilfield" did 90mpg which for a 500cc motorcycle is amazing.
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Was that 90mpg of SAE 30W engine oil?

Still at least your boots will be waterproof now. :D
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Jul 16 2014, 10:28 AM
Was that 90mpg of SAE 30W engine oil?

Still at least your boots will be waterproof now. :D
No, bog standard lead free. I have not needed to add any engine oil since to the motorcycle since it last service in August 2013.
(It is a long winded procedure to check the level of the engine oil due to the engine being "dry sump.")
In any case the engine oil is 15W 40, the clutch uses 15w 40, the gearbox EP90, and the front forks 10w 30.
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papasmurf
Jul 16 2014, 10:12 AM
Last weekend I took the "Royal Oilfield" to a motorcycle rally some distance away. (Someone else was carrying the camping equipment.)

The "Oilfield" did 90mpg which for a 500cc motorcycle is amazing.
Ah but a BMW i8 is said to deliver over 100 mpg and 0 to 60 in under 5 seconds!

But then it does cost a bit (£99.5k), I guess your machine was somewhat less expensive AND does't have the shame of a BMW propeller badge.


So yes well done the 'Oilfield'
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Curious Cdn
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And besides, you can't ride a BMW around without a Pickelhauben on your head.
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Jul 16 2014, 05:59 PM
And besides, you can't ride a BMW around without a Pickelhauben on your head.
The BMW's imported into Britain do not have indicators fitted.
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How can you tell when they're turning left und Reich?
Edited by Curious Cdn, Jul 16 2014, 10:41 PM.
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Curious Cdn
Jul 16 2014, 10:40 PM
How can you tell when they're turning left und Reich?
They give Hans signals.
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Das vas gut!

:D
Edited by Curious Cdn, Jul 16 2014, 10:53 PM.
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Steve K
Jul 16 2014, 05:33 PM
I guess your machine was somewhat less expensive AND does't have the shame of a BMW propeller badge.


So yes well done the 'Oilfield'
I suspect the Oilfield cost less than a set of wheels and tyres for a BMW.
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papasmurf
Jul 16 2014, 11:27 AM
Tigger
Jul 16 2014, 10:28 AM
Was that 90mpg of SAE 30W engine oil?

Still at least your boots will be waterproof now. :D
No, bog standard lead free. I have not needed to add any engine oil since to the motorcycle since it last service in August 2013.
(It is a long winded procedure to check the level of the engine oil due to the engine being "dry sump.")
In any case the engine oil is 15W 40, the clutch uses 15w 40, the gearbox EP90, and the front forks 10w 30.
I have a 1913 car which has no dipstick, one opens a valve on the side of the block and adds oil at the top until it wees out the valve over the adjacent mechanics and your feet thereby indicating that it contains the correct amount of oil. As every fluid within the car is constantly slowly dribbling out onto the floor its a bit of a pain to keep it all topped up.

Having said that i have a complete history of the car back to its original bill of sale and delivery paperwork with details of almost all work done to it over the last 50 years and there is no indication of an engine overhaul. It normally starts first time.
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nute
Jul 17 2014, 10:38 AM
papasmurf
Jul 16 2014, 11:27 AM
Tigger
Jul 16 2014, 10:28 AM
Was that 90mpg of SAE 30W engine oil?

Still at least your boots will be waterproof now. :D
No, bog standard lead free. I have not needed to add any engine oil since to the motorcycle since it last service in August 2013.
(It is a long winded procedure to check the level of the engine oil due to the engine being "dry sump.")
In any case the engine oil is 15W 40, the clutch uses 15w 40, the gearbox EP90, and the front forks 10w 30.
I have a 1913 car which has no dipstick, one opens a valve on the side of the block and adds oil at the top until it wees out the valve over the adjacent mechanics and your feet thereby indicating that it contains the correct amount of oil. As every fluid within the car is constantly slowly dribbling out onto the floor its a bit of a pain to keep it all topped up.

Having said that i have a complete history of the car back to its original bill of sale and delivery paperwork with details of almost all work done to it over the last 50 years and there is no indication of an engine overhaul. It normally starts first time.
"Don't clean it and ruin its original patina" as they would say on Antiques Road Show. It is probably worth a fortune, with all of that provenance.
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nute
Jul 17 2014, 10:38 AM
. . . I have a 1913 car which has no dipstick, one opens a valve on the side of the block and adds oil at the top until it wees out the valve over the adjacent mechanics and your feet thereby indicating that it contains the correct amount of oil. As every fluid within the car is constantly slowly dribbling out onto the floor its a bit of a pain to keep it all topped up.

Having said that i have a complete history of the car back to its original bill of sale and delivery paperwork with details of almost all work done to it over the last 50 years and there is no indication of an engine overhaul. It normally starts first time.
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Any images you can post without giving too much away?
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Yes, but at Heathrow airport ATM, will do so once I have escaped and negotiated all the middle lane cruisers on the M3, probably tomorrow.
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Jul 17 2014, 09:00 PM
Yes, but at Heathrow airport ATM, will do so once I have escaped and negotiated all the middle lane cruisers on the M3, probably tomorrow.
Cheers
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Jul 17 2014, 11:54 AM
nute
Jul 17 2014, 10:38 AM
. . . I have a 1913 car which has no dipstick, one opens a valve on the side of the block and adds oil at the top until it wees out the valve over the adjacent mechanics and your feet thereby indicating that it contains the correct amount of oil. As every fluid within the car is constantly slowly dribbling out onto the floor its a bit of a pain to keep it all topped up.

Having said that i have a complete history of the car back to its original bill of sale and delivery paperwork with details of almost all work done to it over the last 50 years and there is no indication of an engine overhaul. It normally starts first time.
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Any images you can post without giving too much away?
see if this works, not sure how to post pics here....

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Its a Wolsley, still has the original pneumatic starting system (plus an electric one now), I have the spare wheel but its not fitted in the photos. Registered with the veteran car club. Torsion bars are all leather clad, has electric lights which were an option at the time of sale but has combustion lamps too. Only real problem is the rad needs re coring.
Edited by nute, Jul 18 2014, 10:53 AM.
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Jul 18 2014, 10:45 AM

. . .see if this works, not sure how to post pics here....
Works damn fine Nute - thanks

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A mighty impressive piece of work might I say
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A pleasure to behold Nute, one is most envious.
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Truly, a thing of beauty.
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Thanks for the kind comments.

Driving it is great fun although the brake and the accelerator peddle positions are reversed and changing gear is a bit tricky with no synchromesh… hand signals only, no indicators, speedo is arbitrary as the needle bounces about all over the shop and the gauge is down by your feet so you can't see it away.
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Jul 18 2014, 08:28 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.

Driving it is great fun although the brake and the accelerator peddle positions are reversed and changing gear is a bit tricky with no synchromesh… hand signals only, no indicators, speedo is arbitrary as the needle bounces about all over the shop and the gauge is down by your feet so you can't see it away.


But it gets driven! Good stuff. There's always something sad about great machinery kept in mothballs

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Jul 18 2014, 08:28 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.

Driving it is great fun although the brake and the accelerator peddle positions are reversed and changing gear is a bit tricky with no synchromesh… hand signals only, no indicators, speedo is arbitrary as the needle bounces about all over the shop and the gauge is down by your feet so you can't see it away.
Yes, I noticed that the steering wheel was reversed on the other side of the car, as well.
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Jul 18 2014, 08:28 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.

Driving it is great fun although the brake and the accelerator peddle positions are reversed and changing gear is a bit tricky with no synchromesh… hand signals only, no indicators, speedo is arbitrary as the needle bounces about all over the shop and the gauge is down by your feet so you can't see it away.
That's fantastic what a wonderful looking motor car, if she could talk you'd here a few choice tales I'm sure! Seeing something like that makes me want to get a set of spanners out and have a tinker!

Glad you put the pictures up, the background looks familiar as well.
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Greenwood?
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Looks a bit like Caister Castle or the place in the Cotswolds who's name escapes me at the moment, I always go to local rallies for old cars and bikes and Mrs Tigger always eyes me with some suspicion when I get back, we have a car sized gap in the barn that one day will be filled!
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Jul 18 2014, 10:39 PM
Looks a bit like Caister Castle or the place in the Cotswolds who's name escapes me at the moment, I always go to local rallies for old cars and bikes and Mrs Tigger always eyes me with some suspicion when I get back, we have a car sized gap in the barn that one day will be filled!
If I pulled that stunt, the new car in the car-sized space would be used to hide the new shallow grave in the garage that I would have permanently moved in to.
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nute
Jul 18 2014, 10:45 AM
Steve K
Jul 17 2014, 11:54 AM
nute
Jul 17 2014, 10:38 AM
. . . I have a 1913 car which has no dipstick, one opens a valve on the side of the block and adds oil at the top until it wees out the valve over the adjacent mechanics and your feet thereby indicating that it contains the correct amount of oil. As every fluid within the car is constantly slowly dribbling out onto the floor its a bit of a pain to keep it all topped up.

Having said that i have a complete history of the car back to its original bill of sale and delivery paperwork with details of almost all work done to it over the last 50 years and there is no indication of an engine overhaul. It normally starts first time.
Posted Image

Any images you can post without giving too much away?
see if this works, not sure how to post pics here....

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Its a Wolsley, still has the original pneumatic starting system (plus an electric one now), I have the spare wheel but its not fitted in the photos. Registered with the veteran car club. Torsion bars are all leather clad, has electric lights which were an option at the time of sale but has combustion lamps too. Only real problem is the rad needs re coring.
Absolutely beautiful! A credit to you!

In my very modest collection I have a post war Armstrong Siddeley. Had your beautiful example been just a few years older as you probably know, your car would have been a Wolseley Siddeley, but in 1909 Siddeley and Wolsely went their separate ways. Incidentally many people are unaware that Herbert Austin was the chief design engineer at Wolseley in the early 1900s before founding the Austin Motor Company. Who would have guessed that Austin and Wolseley would have been reunited nearly fifty years later under the BMC badge! Unless my knowledge is letting me down Wolsely also developed the first petrol-electric car in the early 1900s.

Regards
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