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Tim nice but dim.
Topic Started: Oct 4 2014, 03:08 PM (138 Views)
Tigger
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Caught some of this on R4 and France 24, enough to make a grown man cry.

Lord Hill David Cameron's choice as EU commissioner for financial regulation in Europe looks to have had his bluff called, a close friend of Cameron and former leader of the house of Lords and sometime researcher for the Tory party, Hill has a history degree and assorted establishment non jobs in his CV.

Right wing newspapers heralded this appointment as a victory for Cameron, unfortunately he has been called back by the EU commission because he does not seem to have even a vague idea about the financial markets he is supposed to regulate! One Belgian MEP described him as "unflappable and superficially charming" and said that "behind the charm there is little knowledge of the subject matter".

A deliberate ploy to put a donkey in charge who will be unable to police financial services or is Cameron just using the old boy network and has been found out by smarter minds across the North Sea? Either way it looks pathetically amateurish.
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"One Belgian MEP described him as "unflappable and superficially charming" and said that "behind the charm there is little knowledge of the subject matter"."

Doesn't that just describe most politicians, whatever happened to technocracy. Oh wait..it never existed
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The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
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Stan Still
Oct 4 2014, 03:18 PM
The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
A bit like the Tory party ---- we will sort it in five ---- and then turned out to be a group of clowns?
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I'd agree with that, The EU is pretty Tory in nature, if you ask me they helped shape New Labour into being automatic Tory Mark II via policies they (NL) had little to no control over
Edited by jeevesnwooster, Oct 4 2014, 04:16 PM.
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It's not just Lord Hill, though. There is a lot of party political bad feeling in the European parliament, and the members are having a real go at their oppositions candidates.
The socialists can't stand Miguel Arias Canete, the centre-right Spanish commissioner who has been put in charge of climate change and energy.They accuse him of having family links to the oil industry, as well as making some sexist remarks for which he subsequently apologised. He has been given a real working over by the socialist element of the parliament.

Not to be outdone, The E.P.P then had a chew at the |French candidate, Pierre Moscovici. He was in front of them for over three hours in a bad tempered session, at the end of which he was rated as "hardly credible". It's more to do with party political manoeuvering than the actual abilities of the candidates, for, let's face it, how many cabinet ministers (in ANY party) can be called experts in their ministry when appointed?
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Stan Still
Oct 4 2014, 03:18 PM
The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
Really? They have sussed out that our government has sent someone to do a job he is just not up to and by the looks of it they are calling his and our wonderful governments bluff, if you wish to see the financial services sector continue to run wild put someone in charge who knows next to nothing about it! Looking at the present front benches you could be forgiven for thinking that being a talentless non entity from a "good" background is all that is required to run Britain.

It might be enough to fool you but some brighter people seem to be taking a different view.
Edited by Tigger, Oct 4 2014, 08:51 PM.
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Steve K
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Stan Still
Oct 4 2014, 03:18 PM
The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
You do know that's wild hyperbole don't you.

So the real question is why post it?

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The British System has always been to put non-experts in charge of the Ministries. The theory is that 'experts' would be biased towards one or other aspect of their area of expertise. Instead, we appoint intelligent 'laymen', who are supposed to be able to understand the opinions of the legion of specialist 'expert' advisors, but also be distant enough from the topic to avoid prejudging it.

Of course, this means that a Minister may occasionally hear opinions from experts who are also complete morons.
It's all part of our glorious democracy, in that it ensures that morons - as part of the UK demographics - are not excluded from the process of governance.

This is similar to our love of tradition and precedence, which ensures that the dead get a vote as well ! !dvl!
Edited by RoofGardener, Oct 4 2014, 11:02 PM.
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Tigger
Oct 4 2014, 08:48 PM
Stan Still
Oct 4 2014, 03:18 PM
The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
Really? They have sussed out that our government has sent someone to do a job he is just not up to and by the looks of it they are calling his and our wonderful governments bluff, if you wish to see the financial services sector continue to run wild put someone in charge who knows next to nothing about it! Looking at the present front benches you could be forgiven for thinking that being a talentless non entity from a "good" background is all that is required to run Britain.

It might be enough to fool you but some brighter people seem to be taking a different view.
Perhaps we should send Ed balls....he will sort it out. !dvl!
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Tigger
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Rich
Oct 4 2014, 11:09 PM
Tigger
Oct 4 2014, 08:48 PM
Stan Still
Oct 4 2014, 03:18 PM
The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
Really? They have sussed out that our government has sent someone to do a job he is just not up to and by the looks of it they are calling his and our wonderful governments bluff, if you wish to see the financial services sector continue to run wild put someone in charge who knows next to nothing about it! Looking at the present front benches you could be forgiven for thinking that being a talentless non entity from a "good" background is all that is required to run Britain.

It might be enough to fool you but some brighter people seem to be taking a different view.
Perhaps we should send Ed balls....he will sort it out. !dvl!
Compared to this Hill bloke he's a titan of economics! ;D
Edited by Tigger, Oct 5 2014, 08:30 AM.
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Overlooking the most qualified person, one Gordon Brown.
Not Nice, Not Dim.

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I like to watch Farage on EU issues. Hilarious.
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Steve K
Oct 4 2014, 08:54 PM
Stan Still
Oct 4 2014, 03:18 PM
The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
You do know that's wild hyperbole don't you.

So the real question is why post it?

When someone claims that another is dim it is first best to determine how they formed such a yardstick and how they applied such measurements. Based on the original claim it is possible that this choppy is the brightest tool in the EU Box. Often you find that those claiming others to be dim usually do so in the hope that this might improve their standing, however, in this case absolutely no chance.
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Tigger
Oct 5 2014, 08:30 AM
Rich
Oct 4 2014, 11:09 PM
Tigger
Oct 4 2014, 08:48 PM
Stan Still
Oct 4 2014, 03:18 PM
The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
Really? They have sussed out that our government has sent someone to do a job he is just not up to and by the looks of it they are calling his and our wonderful governments bluff, if you wish to see the financial services sector continue to run wild put someone in charge who knows next to nothing about it! Looking at the present front benches you could be forgiven for thinking that being a talentless non entity from a "good" background is all that is required to run Britain.

It might be enough to fool you but some brighter people seem to be taking a different view.
Perhaps we should send Ed balls....he will sort it out. !dvl!
Compared to this Hill bloke he's a titan of economics! ;D
Really. How were you able to form such an opinion?
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Tigger
Oct 4 2014, 08:48 PM
Stan Still
Oct 4 2014, 03:18 PM
The EU a paragon of virtue that is suspected to be riddled with corruption by many, whose financial dealings are in state of constant turmoil so much they can't even begin to account for where some of the money has gone, is not a fitting organization to say anything
Really? They have sussed out that our government has sent someone to do a job he is just not up to and by the looks of it they are calling his and our wonderful governments bluff, if you wish to see the financial services sector continue to run wild put someone in charge who knows next to nothing about it! Looking at the present front benches you could be forgiven for thinking that being a talentless non entity from a "good" background is all that is required to run Britain.

It might be enough to fool you but some brighter people seem to be taking a different view.
I have told you more than once that I do not condone what some in the financial sector have done, but obviously not enough for you to understand or remember it.

I have also told you that I have no fondness for our present Government or any politician of any party either but again obviously not enough for you to understand or remember it.

The media and the Government have also told you on more than one occasion that new legislation is in place to regulate the bankers more in order to prevent them repeating what they did that the previous Government failed to do, but again not enough for you to understand or remember it.

The media have also told you and everyone else that investigations into alleged wrong doings of some in the financial sector are still on going, some not all were involved not all as you think but again obviously not enough for you to understand it or remember it.

And just to inform in case you missed it or have forgotten it one financer this week pleaded guilty as charged and faces up to ten years inside and he/she may not be the last one to pay the price for their criminal act, I hope not.

If you think that corruption or incompetence resides only one in one side of the House you are even more badly informed and lack any kind of reasoning and logic to see what is right under your nose, the same goes for the EU.

Thankfully you have only one vote so your wishes will never come true you would probably vote for the party that has the best insults, not the better ideas



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Ed Balls a TITAN of economics! !jk! !jk! !jk!

Shouldn't that be on the Joke page.
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