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Yet another tosser with too much taxpayers money.
Topic Started: Oct 12 2014, 01:35 AM (130 Views)
Rich
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29585203

So, Mr Newmark has decided to resign at the next election, why not do so now as he has said he will be seeking rehab and will not be able to represent his constituents fully, methinks that Cameron has asked him to stay on as he fears yet another by election.

He is perfect material for the upper house.
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johnofgwent
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Why will he not go now ?

Because as I said in regard to Douglas Carswell, every MP receives, as a result of being in office the day parliament is prorogued, a rather handsome wad with which to full their boots until the poor dears can get another job on the board of one of the companies they have "helped" during their parliamentary career.

Carswell put not only his position as the man elected to prepresent his constituents, but also his right to claim that large wad, on the line by standing down and forcing a by election.

This chap clearly feels he will need that wad. He's not wrong. "Private psychiatric residential establishments" do not come cheap.
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johnofgwent
Oct 12 2014, 03:22 AM
Why will he not go now ?

Because as I said in regard to Douglas Carswell, every MP receives, as a result of being in office the day parliament is prorogued, a rather handsome wad with which to full their boots until the poor dears can get another job
Depending on years served as an MP it can be up to £2 million (A big wedge of that will be a pension pot.)
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johnofgwent
Oct 12 2014, 03:22 AM
Why will he not go now ?

Because as I said in regard to Douglas Carswell, every MP receives, as a result of being in office the day parliament is prorogued, a rather handsome wad with which to full their boots until the poor dears can get another job on the board of one of the companies they have "helped" during their parliamentary career.

Carswell put not only his position as the man elected to prepresent his constituents, but also his right to claim that large wad, on the line by standing down and forcing a by election.

This chap clearly feels he will need that wad. He's not wrong. "Private psychiatric residential establishments" do not come cheap.
If it is the sytem, and he is entitled to receive it, one can hardly blame him for taking the best available option for himself. I know we all like to think we will be moralabout all issies but I dobt that there are many who would act differently in the same situation.
Perhaps the blame for any lack of morality and the cost to the taxpayer should be laid at the feet of the snakey news reporter /journalist reporter who tried to entrap a number of MPs to create a news story and make a wadge of money from the by line whilst seeking to humiliate and makje political capital out of another hard working human being, and that applies to all walks of life.
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Tytoalba
Oct 12 2014, 03:49 PM
If it is the sytem, and he is entitled to receive it, one can hardly blame him for taking the best available option for himself.

I know we all like to think we will be moralabout all issies but I dobt that there are many who would act differently in the same situation.

Perhaps the blame for any lack of morality and the cost to the taxpayer should be laid at the feet of the snakey news reporter /journalist reporter who tried to entrap a number of MPs to create a news story and make a wadge of money from the by line whilst seeking to humiliate and makje political capital out of another hard working human being, and that applies to all walks of life.
Well, you say that, and of course legally you are right

In exactly the same way that every person Cameron has pursued and publicly named and shamed for QUITE LEGALLY ARRANGING THEIR TAX AFFAIRS SO AS TO MINIMISE THEIR TAX LIABILITY is LEGALLY entitled to do so ... but publicly reviled by Cameron for it.

(Unless they are tory party sonirs)

It's like the fact that MP's get over seventy pence a mile mileage allowance tax free while the rest of us get a max of 46

It is "legal" but it stinks

SO i will heap shit on this bloke in the exact same measure cameron heaps it on people like me.

And you might note I merely contrasted Carswell who risked his coming loot with this piece of dog turd who has not ...
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AndyK
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The fact remains, MP's are grossly underpaid.
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AndyK
Oct 13 2014, 03:39 PM
The fact remains, MP's are grossly underpaid.
Care to expand on that.
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AndyK
Oct 13 2014, 03:39 PM
The fact remains, MP's are grossly underpaid.

I agree. But corruption corrects that situation.


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Rich
Oct 12 2014, 01:35 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29585203

So, Mr Newmark has decided to resign at the next election, why not do so now as he has said he will be seeking rehab and will not be able to represent his constituents fully, methinks that Cameron has asked him to stay on as he fears yet another by election.

He is perfect material for the upper house.
Once one gets into the hands of sanctimonious ninnies one is surely doomed. Sounds like he's in a large group of people who do such things. Why don't people just get on with their lives, do they need someone to string up so they feel better about themselves? He didn't send it to me, sounds like he was asked for it and he obliged.
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papasmurf
Oct 13 2014, 04:04 PM
AndyK
Oct 13 2014, 03:39 PM
The fact remains, MP's are grossly underpaid.
Care to expand on that.
You get what you pay for. Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.
If you want the best ,and people of principle ,morality education and skills, than you have to pay for them, for they are hardly likely to give up on a well paid jobs or positions where they are paid a great deal more, to go into Parliament to be constantly insulted, abused, and vilified in the manner we see so often in the press, the news, and on message boards like this.
Everyone wants to be respected, not all of us are entitled to be, but those with the slkills and the ability and entitlement certainly are, but they don't seem to get it.
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AndyK
Oct 13 2014, 03:39 PM
The fact remains, MP's are grossly underpaid.
How do you judge this?
I would suggest that if you tested individual market worth outside of the MP sinecure you might find the market unlikely to reward most at a much lower rate. I am not convinced we get good value from back-bench MPs and wonder what they do with their copious free time. Finesse their expenses perhaps?
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Oct 17 2014, 10:24 AM
papasmurf
Oct 13 2014, 04:04 PM
AndyK
Oct 13 2014, 03:39 PM
The fact remains, MP's are grossly underpaid.
Care to expand on that.
You get what you pay for. Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.
If you want the best ,and people of principle ,morality education and skills, than you have to pay for them, for they are hardly likely to give up on a well paid jobs or positions where they are paid a great deal more, to go into Parliament to be constantly insulted, abused, and vilified in the manner we see so often in the press, the news, and on message boards like this.
Everyone wants to be respected, not all of us are entitled to be, but those with the slkills and the ability and entitlement certainly are, but they don't seem to get it.
You cannot buy respect it has to be earned.
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RJD
Oct 17 2014, 12:21 PM
You cannot buy respect it has to be earned.
Most of the Tory front bench have a problem then.
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papasmurf
Oct 17 2014, 12:26 PM
RJD
Oct 17 2014, 12:21 PM
You cannot buy respect it has to be earned.
Most of the Tory front bench have a problem then.
I really do not understand how you could be so selective? I would accept that the majority of MPs no matter their affiliation do have such a problem.
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Tytoalba
Oct 17 2014, 10:24 AM
papasmurf
Oct 13 2014, 04:04 PM
AndyK
Oct 13 2014, 03:39 PM
The fact remains, MP's are grossly underpaid.
Care to expand on that.
You get what you pay for. Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.
If you want the best ,and people of principle ,morality education and skills, than you have to pay for them, for they are hardly likely to give up on a well paid jobs or positions where they are paid a great deal more, to go into Parliament to be constantly insulted, abused, and vilified in the manner we see so often in the press, the news, and on message boards like this.
Everyone wants to be respected, not all of us are entitled to be, but those with the slkills and the ability and entitlement certainly are, but they don't seem to get it.


I agree that MP's pay is risible. I agree that the majority of them are no better than trained monkeys.

Parliament should be cut by at least half .... we might then get trained chimpanzees.

As it is MP's pay is not their only source of income, not even the main source in many instances.
It would be endearing if it were the case that our government was made up passionate patriots with a desire to serve the nation, its people.

Why it is not is largely because wealthy individuals, wealthy corporations, are able to influence policy, influence public opinion, and so we have ended up with politicians competing for favours. Favours and a good press - and a career in BS spreading is made,





Edited by Affa, Oct 17 2014, 05:23 PM.
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