Could Milliband look any MORE uncomfortable ?

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Could Milliband look any MORE uncomfortable ?
Topic Started: Nov 2 2014, 04:41 PM (1,139 Views)
johnofgwent	Nov 2 2014, 04:41 PM Post #1
It .. It is GREEN !! Posts: 7,086 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jun 26, 2014	I don't believe it. Does Milliband make a career out of "being mister uncomfortable" ? If you thought the bacon sarnie shot was bad, feast your eyes on milliband wishing he didn't have to hand some headscarf wearing beggar 2p ...

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RJD	Nov 4 2014, 12:12 PM Post #41
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Tigger Nov 3 2014, 07:09 PM marybrown Nov 3 2014, 03:59 PM C-too Nov 3 2014, 03:55 PM marybrown Nov 3 2014, 03:21 PM He should be made to look a right prat...apparently this woman was a part of an organised Roma begging gang..who made at least £5 a day.. Hey Labour..it was you who let them in.. And has anyone noticed..non of the ''Big Issue'' sellers are British? Exaggeration MB. Labour didn't join the EU that was the Tories. Remember that as things stand it is the migrants who decide which countries they want to go to, and while Labour got it wrong in allowing too many in all at once, as far as I'm aware the best they could have done was to do what the Germans and French did which was to delay migration. IMO, the eventual number of migrants would have been similar over a period of time. And that would have been true regardless of the colour of the government. We signed up under a Conservative government for ''A Common Market''.. Not ''Deutschland Uber Alles!'' The Conservative governments since have done a lot of signing up to things virtually none of us wanted. Land of Dopes and Fury? Did they sign the Lisbon Consti-Treaty? Did they sign up to reduce our EU contributions for zilch in return? Did they sign up to send British soldiers to Afghanistan without enough bullets as all they needed was chalk and blackboard erasers. Did they sign up to open the floodgates for economic migrants when the rest of the populous wanted to see such attenuated? Me thinks that the failures are somewhat distributed between the Tories and Labour the only debate is to which was the more stupid. In my book it is obviously the last lot, but their predecessors also made many very many mistakes. That is the natural outcome of a western democracy.



jaguar	Nov 4 2014, 04:28 PM Post #42
Regular Member Posts: 980 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	I can fully understand why Miliband is feeling uncomfortable, apart from the polls, it appears even the Guardian is turning against him. A T-shirt. He can’t even wear a T-shirt without somehow condemning both himself and any surrounding witnesses to ridicule. What’s going to trip him up next? A doorknob? Next week he operates a doorknob so badly he fractures his wrist, and as the medics wheel him to the operating theatre, they accidentally knock an ageing war veteran off a WAITING ROOM CHAIR, leaving him groaning in pain on the floor, at which point Miliband insists they stop his gurney so he can lean over and help the guy up, but he forgets about his fractured wrist, so as the 96-year-old decorated-war-hero-and-humbling-inspiration-to-us-all gingerly grabs his hand, Miliband abruptly screeches a barrage of agonised obscenities directly into his face, causing him to hit the floor again, fatally this time, in front of the world’s media, oh and also Miliband does a frightened little wee at the end, and they film that too. Charlie Brooker The Guardian, Monday 3 November 2014 20.00 GMT



C-too	Nov 4 2014, 04:44 PM Post #43
Honourable Member Posts: 17,686 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: Jul 12, 2014	johnofgwent Nov 3 2014, 06:36 PM C-too Nov 3 2014, 03:55 PM Exaggeration MB. Labour didn't join the EU that was the Tories. Remember that as things stand it is the migrants who decide which countries they want to go to, and while Labour got it wrong in allowing too many in all at once, as far as I'm aware the best they could have done was to do what the Germans and French did which was to delay migration. IMO, the eventual number of migrants would have been similar over a period of time. And that would have been true regardless of the colour of the government. I wonder, if I was to pack my bags and use my EU27 passport to go to belgium and sell coppoes of the big issue in Brussels' Grand Marktplatz , do you think i would be given housing benefit on my belgian social housing ? I don't know. I believe one of the intentions of this government is that benefits will be more like those of other EU countries. Do you have any comparison information?



RJD	Nov 4 2014, 04:48 PM Post #44
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	C-too Nov 4 2014, 04:44 PM johnofgwent Nov 3 2014, 06:36 PM C-too Nov 3 2014, 03:55 PM Exaggeration MB. Labour didn't join the EU that was the Tories. Remember that as things stand it is the migrants who decide which countries they want to go to, and while Labour got it wrong in allowing too many in all at once, as far as I'm aware the best they could have done was to do what the Germans and French did which was to delay migration. IMO, the eventual number of migrants would have been similar over a period of time. And that would have been true regardless of the colour of the government. I wonder, if I was to pack my bags and use my EU27 passport to go to belgium and sell coppoes of the big issue in Brussels' Grand Marktplatz , do you think i would be given housing benefit on my belgian social housing ? I don't know. I believe one of the intentions of this government is that benefits will be more like those of other EU countries. Do you have any comparison information? Has anyone actually stated what the EU thinks the correct policy for welfare is? Maybe it's the German one as that appears to be the modus.



C-too	Nov 4 2014, 04:51 PM Post #45
Honourable Member Posts: 17,686 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: Jul 12, 2014	jaguar Nov 4 2014, 04:28 PM I can fully understand why Miliband is feeling uncomfortable, apart from the polls, it appears even the Guardian is turning against him. A T-shirt. He can’t even wear a T-shirt without somehow condemning both himself and any surrounding witnesses to ridicule. What’s going to trip him up next? A doorknob? Next week he operates a doorknob so badly he fractures his wrist, and as the medics wheel him to the operating theatre, they accidentally knock an ageing war veteran off a WAITING ROOM CHAIR, leaving him groaning in pain on the floor, at which point Miliband insists they stop his gurney so he can lean over and help the guy up, but he forgets about his fractured wrist, so as the 96-year-old decorated-war-hero-and-humbling-inspiration-to-us-all gingerly grabs his hand, Miliband abruptly screeches a barrage of agonised obscenities directly into his face, causing him to hit the floor again, fatally this time, in front of the world’s media, oh and also Miliband does a frightened little wee at the end, and they film that too. Charlie Brooker The Guardian, Monday 3 November 2014 20.00 GMT Yes Ed is a nowhere leader, easily ridiculed. But whoever wrote that article, if it has been passed on correctly, is an even greater non-entity. I don't think it gives much credit to the poster either.



C-too	Nov 4 2014, 04:55 PM Post #46
Honourable Member Posts: 17,686 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: Jul 12, 2014	RJD Nov 4 2014, 04:48 PM C-too Nov 4 2014, 04:44 PM johnofgwent Nov 3 2014, 06:36 PM C-too Nov 3 2014, 03:55 PM Exaggeration MB. Labour didn't join the EU that was the Tories. Remember that as things stand it is the migrants who decide which countries they want to go to, and while Labour got it wrong in allowing too many in all at once, as far as I'm aware the best they could have done was to do what the Germans and French did which was to delay migration. IMO, the eventual number of migrants would have been similar over a period of time. And that would have been true regardless of the colour of the government. I wonder, if I was to pack my bags and use my EU27 passport to go to belgium and sell coppoes of the big issue in Brussels' Grand Marktplatz , do you think i would be given housing benefit on my belgian social housing ? I don't know. I believe one of the intentions of this government is that benefits will be more like those of other EU countries. Do you have any comparison information? Has anyone actually stated what the EU thinks the correct policy for welfare is? Maybe it's the German one as that appears to be the modus. It's an area I have little knowledge on, but if immigrants are here just for benefits then IMO benefits need to be similar to what they get in their own country.



jaguar	Nov 4 2014, 05:02 PM Post #47
Regular Member Posts: 980 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	C-too Nov 4 2014, 04:51 PM jaguar Nov 4 2014, 04:28 PM I can fully understand why Miliband is feeling uncomfortable, apart from the polls, it appears even the Guardian is turning against him. A T-shirt. He can’t even wear a T-shirt without somehow condemning both himself and any surrounding witnesses to ridicule. What’s going to trip him up next? A doorknob? Next week he operates a doorknob so badly he fractures his wrist, and as the medics wheel him to the operating theatre, they accidentally knock an ageing war veteran off a WAITING ROOM CHAIR, leaving him groaning in pain on the floor, at which point Miliband insists they stop his gurney so he can lean over and help the guy up, but he forgets about his fractured wrist, so as the 96-year-old decorated-war-hero-and-humbling-inspiration-to-us-all gingerly grabs his hand, Miliband abruptly screeches a barrage of agonised obscenities directly into his face, causing him to hit the floor again, fatally this time, in front of the world’s media, oh and also Miliband does a frightened little wee at the end, and they film that too. Charlie Brooker The Guardian, Monday 3 November 2014 20.00 GMT Yes Ed is a nowhere leader, easily ridiculed. But whoever wrote that article, if it has been passed on correctly, is an even greater non-entity. I don't think it gives much credit to the poster either. I agree, Ed is a nowhere leader, easily ridiculed, but surely he only has himself to blame for that, I know you get fed up with this constant criticism of Ed. He makes an excellent leader of the opposition and we can but hope that this time next year he is still holding down the same job.



RJD	Nov 4 2014, 05:09 PM Post #48
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	C-too Nov 4 2014, 04:55 PM RJD Nov 4 2014, 04:48 PM C-too Nov 4 2014, 04:44 PM johnofgwent Nov 3 2014, 06:36 PM Quoting limited to 4 levels deep I don't know. I believe one of the intentions of this government is that benefits will be more like those of other EU countries. Do you have any comparison information? Has anyone actually stated what the EU thinks the correct policy for welfare is? Maybe it's the German one as that appears to be the modus. It's an area I have little knowledge on, but if immigrants are here just for benefits then IMO benefits need to be similar to what they get in their own country. No just their right of access to what is considered sensible for those who are already living and working here needs to be redefined. It would be impractical too pay out such benefits depending on their individual Passports. I would be happy with a 2 or 3 year introductory period allowing individuals to earn their right of access to such benefits, these can, if required, be tutored on the basis that there last country of tax domicility must also pick up part of the cost during such a period. Or if you like a one off payment of £10,000 say buys you the full benefits package. Up it to £20,000 if you wish. I do not think that migrants come for benefits, but if you take that cushion away they will be a lot more considered with their actions.



RJD	Nov 4 2014, 05:16 PM Post #49
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	jaguar Nov 4 2014, 05:02 PM C-too Nov 4 2014, 04:51 PM jaguar Nov 4 2014, 04:28 PM I can fully understand why Miliband is feeling uncomfortable, apart from the polls, it appears even the Guardian is turning against him. A T-shirt. He can’t even wear a T-shirt without somehow condemning both himself and any surrounding witnesses to ridicule. What’s going to trip him up next? A doorknob? Next week he operates a doorknob so badly he fractures his wrist, and as the medics wheel him to the operating theatre, they accidentally knock an ageing war veteran off a WAITING ROOM CHAIR, leaving him groaning in pain on the floor, at which point Miliband insists they stop his gurney so he can lean over and help the guy up, but he forgets about his fractured wrist, so as the 96-year-old decorated-war-hero-and-humbling-inspiration-to-us-all gingerly grabs his hand, Miliband abruptly screeches a barrage of agonised obscenities directly into his face, causing him to hit the floor again, fatally this time, in front of the world’s media, oh and also Miliband does a frightened little wee at the end, and they film that too. Charlie Brooker The Guardian, Monday 3 November 2014 20.00 GMT Yes Ed is a nowhere leader, easily ridiculed. But whoever wrote that article, if it has been passed on correctly, is an even greater non-entity. I don't think it gives much credit to the poster either. I agree, Ed is a nowhere leader, easily ridiculed, but surely he only has himself to blame for that, I know you get fed up with this constant criticism of Ed. He makes an excellent leader of the opposition and we can but hope that this time next year he is still holding down the same job. I do not want a weak leader of the Opposition. I want a strong man with convictions that resonate with Joe Public, Milliband is not such a person and no amount of training, tutoring and method acting will ever change that. The last thing we want is an overbearing dominant political force that does not have to constantly check with the electorate and compete for ideas. Labour may be in Office next year, not because it won the public's trust or their vote and yet again we will see the right left struggle for what is left of the heart of that Party and the internecine warfare between the Milliband and Balls fractions.



Affa	Nov 4 2014, 09:55 PM Post #50
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	C-too Nov 4 2014, 04:51 PM Yes Ed is a nowhere leader, easily ridiculed. But whoever wrote that article, if it has been passed on correctly, is an even greater non-entity. I don't think it gives much credit to the poster either. I guess every politician these days is followed and photographed everywhere they go. And nobody will look good all the time - getting an unfavourable picture must be very easy, and archiving them a policy. Of late I have noticed that a lot of Tory supporting papers publishing less flattering pics of Cameron. It is indicative ..... but of what is yet to be seen. Ed M is a dream opponent ...... he just doesn't command confidence.



Rich	Nov 4 2014, 09:57 PM Post #51
Senior Member Posts: 14,463 Group: Members Member #30 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	jaguar Nov 4 2014, 04:28 PM I can fully understand why Miliband is feeling uncomfortable, apart from the polls, it appears even the Guardian is turning against him. A T-shirt. He can’t even wear a T-shirt without somehow condemning both himself and any surrounding witnesses to ridicule. What’s going to trip him up next? A doorknob? Next week he operates a doorknob so badly he fractures his wrist, and as the medics wheel him to the operating theatre, they accidentally knock an ageing war veteran off a WAITING ROOM CHAIR, leaving him groaning in pain on the floor, at which point Miliband insists they stop his gurney so he can lean over and help the guy up, but he forgets about his fractured wrist, so as the 96-year-old decorated-war-hero-and-humbling-inspiration-to-us-all gingerly grabs his hand, Miliband abruptly screeches a barrage of agonised obscenities directly into his face, causing him to hit the floor again, fatally this time, in front of the world’s media, oh and also Miliband does a frightened little wee at the end, and they film that too. Charlie Brooker The Guardian, Monday 3 November 2014 20.00 GMT



Boxter	Nov 4 2014, 10:40 PM Post #52
Regular Member Posts: 261 Group: Members Member #103 Joined: Oct 26, 2014	Definitely the CREAM OF SOCIETY RICH THICK AND ALWAYS FLOAT TO THE TOP! Edited by Boxter, Nov 4 2014, 10:41 PM.



Lewis	Nov 8 2014, 08:38 AM Post #53
Senior Member Posts: 3,478 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Boxter Nov 2 2014, 07:48 PM This looks pretty uncomfortable to my way of thinking. A Jew eating a bacon sandwich perhaps or is it just par for the course as hes awkward amongst real people that aren't fellow millionaires or advisors. What a non news story. Just shows how pathetic the non-news industry has got. I certainly couldn't give a toss how Ed Milliband eats his bacon sarnies. Most of us when presented with a bacon sarnie just shove it in our gobs and eat it a pretty sight - not. Maybe they should show pictures of Giddie choking on his escargot after trying to sell us the non-deal as a 50% reduction in fees to the EU. What a shyster - just smoke and mirrors. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29965113



Tytoalba	Nov 10 2014, 12:41 PM Post #54
Senior Member Posts: 7,586 Group: Members Member #36 Joined: Jun 29, 2014	The bacon Sarnie pictured told a styory. for he is Jewish, and it cused him emotional and religious problems to swallow it. Jewish Leaders and doners have aparently withdrawn financial suppot from him because of that fact plus his lack of support for Israel in their conflict with Gaza. I sympathise with him for the bad pictoral press, for it is his ability that he should be judged on, but if you play for the camera you can expect that the press will print them good and bad, and if the media sense that his support is draining away, they will follow that line , for they do like to sell to the people that like what they print. Lets face rerality. He may be good, but he is just not good enough to lead his party, or the country at large.



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Deleted User	Lewis Nov 3 2014, 06:29 PM Malum Unus Nov 3 2014, 08:44 AM Marconi Nov 2 2014, 05:56 PM These people look a tad too comfortable. But you would too if you have no concept of hardship. Oh look, they've even put their IQ ratings next to them. And those are exaggerated by a factor of at least 4X. Oxbridge don't give out 'Firsts' too freely you may be assured. If individuals such as Cameron, Osborne, Johnson with such degrees are so stupid in your view, where do you think that places you?
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C-too	Nov 10 2014, 03:34 PM Post #56
Honourable Member Posts: 17,686 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: Jul 12, 2014	Major Sinic Nov 10 2014, 03:30 PM Lewis Nov 3 2014, 06:29 PM Malum Unus Nov 3 2014, 08:44 AM Marconi Nov 2 2014, 05:56 PM These people look a tad too comfortable. But you would too if you have no concept of hardship. Oh look, they've even put their IQ ratings next to them. And those are exaggerated by a factor of at least 4X. Oxbridge don't give out 'Firsts' too freely you may be assured. If individuals such as Cameron, Osborne, Johnson with such degrees are so stupid in your view, where do you think that places you? I know where it places me, amongst the less privileged from an early age.



Affa	Nov 10 2014, 03:40 PM Post #57
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	Major Sinic Nov 10 2014, 03:30 PM Oxbridge don't give out 'Firsts' too freely you may be assured. If individuals such as Cameron, Osborne, Johnson with such degrees are so stupid in your view, where do you think that places you? 'tutelage' A successful business will recruit the smartest people to ensure it succeeds. A successful parent will do the same to ensure his son succeeds.



marybrown	Nov 10 2014, 03:49 PM Post #58
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	Affa Nov 3 2014, 09:48 PM marybrown Nov 3 2014, 03:21 PM He should be made to look a right prat...apparently this woman was a part of an organised Roma begging gang..who made at least £50 a day.. Hey Labour..it was you who let them in.. And has anyone noticed..non of the ''Big Issue'' sellers are British? I hear Roma, and that she is 14 year old .......... a schoolgirl I think he is on his way out..the Jewish voters have ditched him..I am sure that David is waiting in the sidelines..



marybrown	Nov 10 2014, 03:51 PM Post #59
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	I worked with Tziganes in Paris..they have no morals.. I ran a campsite...



Affa	Nov 10 2014, 04:42 PM Post #60
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	marybrown Nov 10 2014, 03:49 PM I think he is on his way out..the Jewish voters have ditched him..I am sure that David is waiting in the sidelines.. It wouldn't surprise me at all Mary, although I'm not expecting it. There is something of 'keeping the powder dry' going on, so it is difficult to have much of an inkling as to who steps up to the mark and leads Labour (to victory). The press can't really do their assassination trick if they don't know who the target should be ....... I like that these hacks will be running round like irate ants when the lawn mower disturbs their tranquilly ...... We will be seeing a few new faces I think, but whether these take centre stage I'm not sure - possible. Will I be voting Labour - not likely. Not a hope in hell that I will vote Tory, even though Cameron was on excellent form earlier today. His talent is undeniable, his politics stink, his integrity zero.



jaguar	Nov 10 2014, 04:49 PM Post #61
Regular Member Posts: 980 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	marybrown Nov 10 2014, 03:49 PM I think he is on his way out..the Jewish voters have ditched him..I am sure that David is waiting in the sidelines..[/quote] If you are referring to the bacon sandwich incident. The issue isn't his inability to EAT it without looking foolish. The issue was credibility. Only a few weeks earlier he'd been prostituting his Jewish heritage to a Jewish audience. Claiming that he wanted to be the first Jewish Prime minister. Nothing wrong with that. But then our wannabe Jewish PM to be, goes out and undermines his Jewish credentials. It shows a total lack of integrity and credibility. If he's prepared to tell one group exactly what they want to hear one day and do a 180 on it the next. His credibility has to be questioned. Plus, they are not just voters, they were donors too. Edited by jaguar, Nov 10 2014, 04:50 PM.



marybrown	Nov 10 2014, 04:56 PM Post #62
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	He is an incompetent idiot....He trips over his own feet...Cannot thread a logical sentence together..



Deleted User	Nov 10 2014, 04:59 PM Post #63
Deleted User	I thought Disraeli was the first Jewish pm...
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jaguar	Nov 10 2014, 05:12 PM Post #64
Regular Member Posts: 980 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	gansao Nov 10 2014, 04:59 PM I thought Disraeli was the first Jewish pm... Quite right, the fool doesn't even know his own history, no wonder the Jews are deserting him, and this man wants to rule the Country, frightening.



Deleted User	Nov 10 2014, 05:23 PM Post #65
Deleted User	C-too Nov 10 2014, 03:34 PM Major Sinic Nov 10 2014, 03:30 PM Lewis Nov 3 2014, 06:29 PM Malum Unus Nov 3 2014, 08:44 AM Quoting limited to 4 levels deeptoo comfortable. But you would too if you have no concept of hardship. And those are exaggerated by a factor of at least 4X. Oxbridge don't give out 'Firsts' too freely you may be assured. If individuals such as Cameron, Osborne, Johnson with such degrees are so stupid in your view, where do you think that places you? I know where it places me, amongst the less privileged from an early age. It is the suggestion that Cameron et al are intellectually stupid that I find rather silly when they are undoubtedly pretty intelligent to have achieved their qualifications, irrespective of the undoubted privilege they have benfitted from.
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Deleted User	Nov 10 2014, 05:25 PM Post #66
Deleted User	jaguar Nov 10 2014, 05:12 PM gansao Nov 10 2014, 04:59 PM I thought Disraeli was the first Jewish pm... Quite right, the fool doesn't even know his own history, no wonder the Jews are deserting him, and this man wants to rule the Country, frightening. I just hope that he hangs in there until May! He is one of the best electoral assets the Tories have got!
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RJD	Nov 10 2014, 05:26 PM Post #67
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	C-too Nov 10 2014, 03:34 PM Major Sinic Nov 10 2014, 03:30 PM Lewis Nov 3 2014, 06:29 PM Malum Unus Nov 3 2014, 08:44 AM Quoting limited to 4 levels deeptoo comfortable. But you would too if you have no concept of hardship. And those are exaggerated by a factor of at least 4X. Oxbridge don't give out 'Firsts' too freely you may be assured. If individuals such as Cameron, Osborne, Johnson with such degrees are so stupid in your view, where do you think that places you? I know where it places me, amongst the less privileged from an early age. Me one of the most privileged as I have not had to suffer such ritual humiliation or concern myself that everyone thinks that Daddy bought me the job. Thank goodness I was born into the working classes, they used to be the bedrock of our society that used education as a means for social mobility. All those housing estate boys with Grammar School educations that rose up to control much of the UK's manufacturing sector.



marybrown	Nov 10 2014, 05:27 PM Post #68
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	Major Sinic Nov 10 2014, 05:23 PM C-too Nov 10 2014, 03:34 PM Major Sinic Nov 10 2014, 03:30 PM Lewis Nov 3 2014, 06:29 PM Quoting limited to 4 levels deeptoo comfortable. But you would too if you have no concept of hardship. Oxbridge don't give out 'Firsts' too freely you may be assured. If individuals such as Cameron, Osborne, Johnson with such degrees are so stupid in your view, where do you think that places you? I know where it places me, amongst the less privileged from an early age. The resentment and envy shines through in every vacuous post you make. I'm sure they all passed with flying colours. How else could it be?



Deleted User	Nov 10 2014, 05:37 PM Post #69
Deleted User	Affa Nov 10 2014, 03:40 PM Major Sinic Nov 10 2014, 03:30 PM Oxbridge don't give out 'Firsts' too freely you may be assured. If individuals such as Cameron, Osborne, Johnson with such degrees are so stupid in your view, where do you think that places you? 'tutelage' A successful business will recruit the smartest people to ensure it succeeds. A successful parent will do the same to ensure his son succeeds. Quite right, but these days even wealthy, well connected privileged fools don't get into Oxbridge.
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marybrown	Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM Post #70
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network..



marybrown	Nov 10 2014, 05:41 PM Post #71
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network.. Do no rich people give birth to idiots??



RJD	Nov 10 2014, 05:43 PM Post #72
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network.. Even so that will not buy a monkey a place at Cambridge. Even if it did the standards are generally so high that his/her peer group would laugh the monkey out of town. There is a lot more to getting a 1st that having a rich Daddy or even attending Eton etc.



Affa	Nov 10 2014, 05:45 PM Post #73
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:41 PM marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network.. Do no rich people give birth to idiots?? Royalty certainly do.



RJD	Nov 10 2014, 05:49 PM Post #74
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Affa Nov 10 2014, 05:45 PM marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:41 PM marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network.. Do no rich people give birth to idiots?? Royalty certainly do. So do the Poor, the working classes, the middle, the rich and the celebs. So what?



marybrown	Nov 10 2014, 05:49 PM Post #75
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	RJD Nov 10 2014, 05:43 PM marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network.. Even so that will not buy a monkey a place at Cambridge. Even if it did the standards are generally so high that his/her peer group would laugh the monkey out of town. There is a lot more to getting a 1st that having a rich Daddy or even attending Eton etc. Oh come on..so no-one's stupid who comes out of these schools??



RJD	Nov 10 2014, 05:57 PM Post #76
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:49 PM RJD Nov 10 2014, 05:43 PM marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network.. Even so that will not buy a monkey a place at Cambridge. Even if it did the standards are generally so high that his/her peer group would laugh the monkey out of town. There is a lot more to getting a 1st that having a rich Daddy or even attending Eton etc. Oh come on..so no-one's stupid who comes out of these schools?? Stupidity is a relative question and yes a polished turd is often a lot more attractive, maybe even acceptable, than your rough variety. Nurture is generally a lot more important than nature in education attainment, but true some no matter how much and how long you spend on or with them some are incapable of learning. It is quiet normal for parents to want the best for their children so best solution is to first improve the free State education. Push up not drag down. The surprising thing is that the Communists believed in progress based on merit and that is why they produced among the best educated on the Planet.



Deleted User	Nov 10 2014, 06:45 PM Post #77
Deleted User	marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:49 PM RJD Nov 10 2014, 05:43 PM marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network.. Even so that will not buy a monkey a place at Cambridge. Even if it did the standards are generally so high that his/her peer group would laugh the monkey out of town. There is a lot more to getting a 1st that having a rich Daddy or even attending Eton etc. Oh come on..so no-one's stupid who comes out of these schools?? Well most of them prefer not to have idiots entering the school in the first place which is why they have entrance exams (Common Entrance is a standard entrance exam and most of the best have their own additional entrance exam). Since the best schools are over-subscribed money doesn't 'talk' as much as you might wish to think. My own son, the offspring of a mere Mr., gained entry to his school when quite a number of the 'great and good' failed. But you would be right in assuming that money will find a billet for even the the most dense way down the public schools pecking order !
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Tigger	Nov 10 2014, 07:39 PM Post #78
Senior Member Posts: 20,106 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	jaguar Nov 10 2014, 04:49 PM marybrown Nov 10 2014, 03:49 PM I think he is on his way out..the Jewish voters have ditched him..I am sure that David is waiting in the sidelines.. If you are referring to the bacon sandwich incident. The issue isn't his inability to EAT it without looking foolish. The issue was credibility. Only a few weeks earlier he'd been prostituting his Jewish heritage to a Jewish audience. Claiming that he wanted to be the first Jewish Prime minister. Nothing wrong with that. But then our wannabe Jewish PM to be, goes out and undermines his Jewish credentials. It shows a total lack of integrity and credibility. If he's prepared to tell one group exactly what they want to hear one day and do a 180 on it the next. His credibility has to be questioned. Plus, they are not just voters, they were donors too.[/quote] **************** Well I think it's high time someone turned you into a rug after that hapless error strewn lesson in Judaism, one thing is certain not much of your post is kosher! Not sure about facts? No bother! Just fill in the gaps in your knowledge with stuff made up on the hoof, or should that be trotter? Edited by Tigger**, Nov 10 2014, 07:40 PM.



Tigger	Nov 10 2014, 07:47 PM Post #79
Senior Member Posts: 20,106 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	RJD Nov 10 2014, 05:26 PM C-too Nov 10 2014, 03:34 PM Major Sinic Nov 10 2014, 03:30 PM Lewis Nov 3 2014, 06:29 PM Quoting limited to 4 levels deeptoo comfortable. But you would too if you have no concept of hardship. Oxbridge don't give out 'Firsts' too freely you may be assured. If individuals such as Cameron, Osborne, Johnson with such degrees are so stupid in your view, where do you think that places you? I know where it places me, amongst the less privileged from an early age. Me one of the most privileged as I have not had to suffer such ritual humiliation or concern myself that everyone thinks that Daddy bought me the job. Thank goodness I was born into the working classes, they used to be the bedrock of our society that used education as a means for social mobility. All those housing estate boys with Grammar School educations that rose up to control much of the UK's manufacturing sector. ^ (Hovis theme tune playing in the background) Sadly the class system has returned with a vengeance, you only have to look at the poor quality of many of our business leaders, politicians and representatives, when compared to what the rest of the World has to offer they often come up very short, they have run out of ideas...........



Tigger	Nov 10 2014, 07:53 PM Post #80
Senior Member Posts: 20,106 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	RJD Nov 10 2014, 05:43 PM marybrown Nov 10 2014, 05:39 PM LOL..money talks..so does the old boys network.. Even so that will not buy a monkey a place at Cambridge. Even if it did the standards are generally so high that his/her peer group would laugh the monkey out of town. There is a lot more to getting a 1st that having a rich Daddy or even attending Eton etc. Just do an upper class version of Meeja Studies then! This would include Art History, Ancient Greek, Horticulture or Heraldry (perhaps). Steer well clear of things like maths based subjects, medicine and er.. economics.



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