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| Topic Started: Nov 3 2014, 11:02 AM (3,372 Views) | |
| RJD | Nov 3 2014, 11:02 AM Post #1 |
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LINK Those earning $25,000 (£15,643) a year in the UK take home 88.22pc of their wages, compared to the average of 82.17pc in Western Europe. Not such a bad sh1t-hole relatively speaking. Considering we are not in the EZ with all it's ongoing problems that have, seemingly, no solution, the UK is well placed as a modern mature democracy. |
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| Lewis | Nov 22 2014, 11:53 AM Post #281 |
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Well if its evidence, statistical or otherwise, one is after. Then your own postings regularly provide very little that can be verified at all. Two little old adages ring true in your case: The one about pot and kettle black and the other about stones and glass houses! Touche! |
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| Tigger | Nov 22 2014, 12:18 PM Post #282 |
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Sadly your opinions have become worthless according to a fair few of us on here now, what with your inability to read links and a debilitating mental affiction than manifests itself as petulant arrogance. Oh, and have you been doing a bit of DIY in five star London hotel?
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| papasmurf | Nov 22 2014, 12:21 PM Post #283 |
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I saw that. Polish gas fitters? |
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| RJD | Nov 22 2014, 03:02 PM Post #284 |
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Exactly, I wish to uncouple the dead hand of the State for the benefit of children citizens. |
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| Affa | Nov 22 2014, 03:23 PM Post #285 |
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I apologise, it was remiss of me when I read again what I presented. Sincerely, sorry for the offence! It's just that not more than a week ago I made the same response to the suggestion that Labour, that the TUC, are closet communists. You were not making that claim, so I was wrong to think you were. It's sordid politicking imo to try to discredit political opponents by wrongly labelling them as something nasty. Edited by Affa, Nov 22 2014, 03:28 PM.
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| RJD | Nov 22 2014, 03:30 PM Post #286 |
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Are Communists nasty? I have met many over the years and they struck me to be decent types. That said in early post war period the TUC was stuffed out with Communist types, they were proud of their beliefs and did not seek to hide them. I did not agree with their politics, but could respect them for stating theirs with conviction. Today the slim-balls hide their views because they are ashamed of them. Why? Why do you think that Communists and I assume their fellow travellers the Socialists are nasty people? Deluded yes, nasty I think not. |
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| ACH1967 | Nov 22 2014, 03:34 PM Post #287 |
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OK no harm done. |
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| Tigger | Nov 22 2014, 03:35 PM Post #288 |
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Blimey you've certainly managed to shoehorn in a few choice assumptions there! And there was me thinking that right wingers were "fellow travellers" of Nazism! Apologies to Mr Godwin. |
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| RJD | Nov 22 2014, 03:37 PM Post #289 |
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Again you demonstrate your deep ignorance. It is a habit you should attempt to shed before it is too late. Sorry it is too late. |
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| Lewis | Nov 22 2014, 08:03 PM Post #290 |
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Well it's an habit that is obviously far too late in your case. Returning to the debate in hand Communism and Socialism are dead, come to think of it, they in practice never beyond the theoretical concept. |
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| RJD | Nov 23 2014, 09:18 AM Post #291 |
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Your opinion is more likely to bolster mine! |
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| Lewis | Nov 23 2014, 11:54 AM Post #292 |
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| jaguar | Nov 28 2014, 03:00 PM Post #293 |
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Latest news, Police have been called to supermarkets across the UK amid crowd surges as people hunt for "Black Friday" offers. Police were called in places including Dundee, Glasgow, Cardiff and London. Food banks closed for the day through lack of customers. |
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| papasmurf | Nov 28 2014, 03:01 PM Post #294 |
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That is a very nasty comment. |
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| RJD | Nov 28 2014, 03:50 PM Post #295 |
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But is it true? |
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| jaguar | Nov 28 2014, 04:11 PM Post #296 |
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In all fairness to save Mr Smurf spending hours trawling through the internet, I assumed it. As he himself often makes assumptions,( ie Osbourne on drugs) I thought I would jump on the bandwagon, |
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| marybrown | Nov 28 2014, 04:18 PM Post #297 |
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What does everyone think about Cameron's proposals to curb the influx of EU migrants? No benefits for 4 years.. No social housing...etc.. etc.. More damn lies... |
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| papasmurf | Nov 28 2014, 04:25 PM Post #298 |
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No it isn't true, just nasty. |
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| marybrown | Nov 28 2014, 04:31 PM Post #299 |
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Well the Trussell trust was well in evidence in Tesco's..they gave you a list of things you could donate..doing a roaring trade..shame you can only donate tinned or dried foods though.. |
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| papasmurf | Nov 28 2014, 04:37 PM Post #300 |
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That has changed where I live for just the Christmas period:- http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/11630796.Brownies_to_help_collect_for_Helston_and_Lizard_Food_Bank_at_Tesco/ First published 09:00 Friday 28 November 2014 in News . Collections are being taken at Helston’s Tesco supermarket for the area’s food bank. Customers are being asked to donate an item of food or toiletries when they do their shopping, which will be distributed by the Helston and The Lizard Food Bank to those struggling to make ends meet. Normally the charity asks for non-perishable food items, but as this collection is Christmas related then festive fare such as mince pies are acceptable provided the date stretches to the end of December. This Saturday, between 10am and 5pm, Brownies and Scouts from the town will be in store packing bags for shoppers in return for a donation of money for the charity. |
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| marybrown | Nov 28 2014, 04:52 PM Post #301 |
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Strangely enough it wasn't the Brownies or Scouts..it was handicapped people in wheelchairs..holding a shopping trolley in front of them..and one of the more able bodied giving out the leaflets..I'm a hard old bitch..but I must admit it bought tears to my eyes... |
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| papasmurf | Nov 28 2014, 05:04 PM Post #302 |
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Could you live on low income of £15,643 a year? That is borderline existence. |
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| HIGHWAY | Nov 28 2014, 05:08 PM Post #303 |
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I know several who do |
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| papasmurf | Nov 28 2014, 05:33 PM Post #304 |
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What exist on low incomes. I know hundreds, and they are not likely to vote Tory. |
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| RJD | Nov 28 2014, 06:50 PM Post #305 |
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Difficult for me to tell as here, one of the poorest regions in the EU, we do not appear to have any, well none nearby anyway and as far as I can tell the nearest must be ~1.5 hours drive away. |
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| RJD | Nov 28 2014, 06:54 PM Post #306 |
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Of course you do, why should they vote for anything other than a Party which promises to give them even more free money? Makes no sense. I wonder how many would take up the option of swapping UK benefits for those elsewhere in the EU. Germany is a big country, a relatively successful one so why we not exporting Claimants there? I wonder? The truth is that the UK is a very generous country. |
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| gee4444 | Nov 28 2014, 08:03 PM Post #307 |
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Prosperous for the minority, that sure is the truth. The plebs, well they'll just have to try an exist a few more years of austerity.# All in it together! My arse. |
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| gee4444 | Nov 28 2014, 08:04 PM Post #308 |
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Bankers vote for a party that gives them free money, albeit they need to bankroll the Tories so it's a bit of give for a lot of take. |
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| Affa | Nov 28 2014, 09:05 PM Post #309 |
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Earlier this week there were similarly handicapped kids (supervised) doing the bagging at Tesco checkouts - I know how you felt. |
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| HIGHWAY | Nov 28 2014, 09:11 PM Post #310 |
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Didn't the bankers get there biggest bonuses when labour were in charge? |
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| papasmurf | Nov 28 2014, 09:15 PM Post #311 |
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Can you reference ANY statement by New Labour that they intend to increase benefits? |
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| gee4444 | Nov 29 2014, 11:26 AM Post #312 |
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You mean NEW labour, not labour. The difference is massive. I don't know? Did they? Are you asking or as I suspect, implying? Do you have the figures? Over, say, the past 50 years, which political party has the banking sector donated the most money to? If that doesn't provide you with the obvious truth about the ties between bankers and Tories then you're blind to the bleedin' obvious. Edited by gee4444, Nov 29 2014, 11:31 AM.
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| HIGHWAY | Nov 29 2014, 12:36 PM Post #313 |
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I think the ? Means it was a ? |
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| Tigger | Nov 29 2014, 01:00 PM Post #314 |
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I suggest you stick to coughing up fur balls and licking your genitals.
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| RJD | Nov 29 2014, 02:54 PM Post #315 |
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Yes they did. During the boom years an NL looking the other way Bankers creamed it in, today their bonuses are only a fraction of what it once was. In fact bashing Bankers is the favourite pastime of the left in order that they can deflect criticism of their tribe in Gov. Bashing Bankers has run it's course and is now no longer productive, but it was a helpful smoke-screne whilst it lasted. |
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| Affa | Nov 29 2014, 03:02 PM Post #316 |
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Are you real? The Bankers have gotten off light, have escaped largely unharmed. The smoke screen they hid behind was put up to blame Gordon Brown for what they did ....... and that still hasn't run its final course. Now compare to the 'bashing' of Trade Unions ....... Tories are still trying to get 'production' out of that THIRTY years after their humiliating defeat. Oh Dear RJD; you should think before posting. |
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| RJD | Nov 29 2014, 03:05 PM Post #317 |
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LINK One has to wonder what all the fuss is about? Compared with most countries in the EU those on welfare in the UK are treated with generosity and it looks like the Gov. have done much to ameliorate the effects of the recession. Where are these 600,000 dead we should be falling over in the streets? |
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| RJD | Nov 29 2014, 03:12 PM Post #318 |
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I did. The fact that Brown cast the die back in 2008 and now the majority of those who were at the helm at that time have now gone is sufficient. The regulatory authority has changed, the system has changed, there is less risk today than 4 years ago and the UK has done well in recent stress tests. Of course there is more to do, there always will be. But I note that the two Eds are still in place and one of them, the fatter one, was the architect of past regulatory failure. Why is he still on the Opposition front bench, if he was a Banker he would have, quiet rightly, been hounded out. The Trade Unions were castigated for their dreadful anarchistic performance in the 1960s and 70s. They are today less relevant however the Neanderthals in the Public Sector Unions are still with us. |
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| Tigger | Nov 29 2014, 04:51 PM Post #319 |
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I'd like to see some proof of this, from what I understand the good times have been back for quite a while now. |
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| marybrown | Nov 29 2014, 04:58 PM Post #320 |
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Yep..the EU have put a cap on their (ahem) bonuses.. |
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