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According to the New Statesman
Topic Started: Nov 6 2014, 09:51 AM (251 Views)
RJD
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According to the Bible of the left, which now has also come out with the Gruaniad to find Miolliband's Labour wanting:


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Miliband has a deterministic, quasi-Marxist analysis of our present ills. The Ukip insurgency, Scottish nationalism, the hollowing out of political parties, Islamist radicalisation, the loathing and distrust of elites: all are manifestations of a failed economic model.


No doubt he learned about the inevitable failure of capitalism on his Marxist father's knee and has been waiting for such. He will have to wait longer as capitalism is flexible it adapts and does so very quickly.

People ask why Milliband is not in touch with his core voters? The truth is that these are not in the form he would wish, they need more social engineering to fit his model of what is acceptable.
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Stan Still
Nov 8 2014, 09:34 AM
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Nov 7 2014, 07:05 PM
C-too
Nov 7 2014, 06:44 PM
Regardless of what you think about the way Blair did things, he most definitely did more for working people than any previous PM
Rubbish.

Blair's / New Labour's immigration policy alone was the biggest betrayal of the working people of this country ever.

In due course New Labour will go down in history as more damaging to the Working Class than Thatcher.

All The Best
I agree labour will go down in history for all the wrong reasons, but if it had not been for Thatcher Old Labour would have heaped more damage on UK PLC, Thatcher inherited a poisoned chalice from Labour the UK was falling apart, and the Unions were out of control creating more damage, many do not like the stark truth and fact but the voters backed the Tories not the Unions or Labour.
A "poisoned challice" that was the product of many decades of failure to sufficiently invest in industry, innovations and in working people, exacerbated by a world recession and the oil shortages of 1973. That didn't just happen in the late 1970s.
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Affa
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RJD
Nov 8 2014, 04:00 PM
Time out is annoying.

Started today for me .. I was beginning to wonder if I had inadvertently altered some settings.



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RJD
Nov 8 2014, 10:56 AM
As Mrs T quite rightly said "there is no alternative"!

That is quite reasonably correct. It would be difficult to imagine how a settlement to the continuing conflict of interests between management and workers could have been achieved when there was no political will to compromise on it.
In fact the major dispute was brought about by a government proposed wage freeze (high inflation eating away at wages), and the other because of soaring energy costs (OPEC).
So rather than being the mediators in this "strife", the Government were major players in creating it .... just as they were for the Miners Strike.



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