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Milli-blather
Topic Started: Nov 11 2014, 10:34 AM (277 Views)
RJD
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Prudence and Thrift
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It’s time to come together with our sleeves rolled up to build a recovery which works for the many.


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The only way we will overcome the forces of despair that drive calls for withdrawal and protectionism is by tackling the deep roots of it in our economy.


Empty blather. It is six months before a GE and the man still cannot say anything of substance. What is Labour for? It certainly is beginning to look like Labour is hoping to get the keys to No.10 by default as it is avoiding a fixed position on anything of substance.
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Affa
Nov 12 2014, 10:59 AM
AndyK
Nov 12 2014, 08:13 AM
Yes, that's the whole point, its zero deficit was obtained by austerity measures over a number of years.

Without them it wouldn't be zero.


I put up two charts to show that spending wasn't cut this last year, spending increased considerably, so 'there was no austerity', there was what Tories would call "proliferate spending".

I explained (tried to) that Germany has to appear to be taking the medicine it forces others to do, the rhetoric of Austerity. Germany cannot be seen to be running ahead, its living standards improving whilst the rest of the euro zone are in turmoil ...... you're smart enough to know this.




Germany and a few other countries front loaded their cuts and put them behind, we intend to drag them on and on and make our children and the unemployed pay for our selfishness. Based on current projections of what has been said thus far the Tories will get the debt down to ~40% of GDP (the safe zone mind some say 20% would be better) by ~2030 if all goes hunk-dory which it wont and Labour will get us there a bit later, if at all, at ~2070. So you choose, vote Labour and steel from your grandchildren's Piggybank or vote Tory and steal less. The sensible Germans and their Swiss cousins do not think it wise or even moral to eat at their grandchildren's cost. clearly in the UK the left do not give a Tinkers about the future only what buys votes now.

Always makes me smile when the lefties accuse the Tories of being nasty when the truth is they advocate extreme selfishness.

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