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A mere 13 per cent of the public think Ed Miliband is cut out to be the next Prime Minister, a further crushing blow to the Labour leader following a week of unrest and infighting within his party.

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The polling, published as Miliband seeks to galvanise his MPs with a speech about his values in London today, also revealed that 58 per cent of Labour supporters are dissatisfied with his leadership so far.

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Just 23 per cent of people asked by pollster Ipsos Mori think Labour is ready to form the next govern­ment, down from 35 per cent of respondents who said yes to the same question in June.

johnofgwent

Nov 15 2014, 09:59 AM

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 08:27 AM

More pro Tory propaganda.

Well I suppose given your politiical leanings I can hardly expect you to say anything else.

But I'm no tory and I agree with it entirely. As I said, the BBC News a few days ago now ran two pieces one almost directly after another, the first was John Major having to stand up and admit that the bright shiny dream he fought for and painted with lights and baubles is now so rotten and stinking of shit that even HE had had to admit he can smell it, the next was Ed Milliband, and do you know what I cannot now remember what the hell he was standing up to say his delivery was that bad.

But it isn't just the messenger. As I have tried to say repeatedly for a very long time, I detest the way britain has become a place where image and delivery is everything, but the fact is Ed is so acutely gawky, sweaty and uncomfortable in front of the cameras he simply fails to portray himself as a man of conviction, he simply does not come over to me a a man who believes in the message he is delivering, and the fact much of what he has said is the very opposite of what he said and did last time he was in charge does not help his cause.

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 07:00 PM

johnofgwent

Nov 15 2014, 09:59 AM

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 08:27 AM

More pro Tory propaganda.

Well I suppose given your politiical leanings I can hardly expect you to say anything else.

But I'm no tory and I agree with it entirely. As I said, the BBC News a few days ago now ran two pieces one almost directly after another, the first was John Major having to stand up and admit that the bright shiny dream he fought for and painted with lights and baubles is now so rotten and stinking of shit that even HE had had to admit he can smell it, the next was Ed Milliband, and do you know what I cannot now remember what the hell he was standing up to say his delivery was that bad.

But it isn't just the messenger. As I have tried to say repeatedly for a very long time, I detest the way britain has become a place where image and delivery is everything, but the fact is Ed is so acutely gawky, sweaty and uncomfortable in front of the cameras he simply fails to portray himself as a man of conviction, he simply does not come over to me a a man who believes in the message he is delivering, and the fact much of what he has said is the very opposite of what he said and did last time he was in charge does not help his cause.

What political leanings are you on about? I'm a social liberal and a centrist to boot. I dislike right wing and left wing extremists with equal disdain. Trouble is that the extremists have got hold of the country at the moment. This Tory government is one of the most extremely right wing we have had for many a year.

RJD

Nov 15 2014, 03:55 PM

marybrown

Nov 15 2014, 01:38 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

Is there anyone in the Labour party who could take his place??

I can't get David peeping round the curtains out of my mind???

I think that there must be at least a few dozen who could do a better job. What about Ms Cooper or the loud mouth from Liverpool or Chukka for starters. Ed Balls would be an improvement, but a retrograde step. Problem is that unless he goes before Christmas then Labour are stuck with him for the GE.

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 07:15 PM

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 07:00 PM

johnofgwent

Nov 15 2014, 09:59 AM

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 08:27 AM

More pro Tory propaganda.

Well I suppose given your politiical leanings I can hardly expect you to say anything else.

But I'm no tory and I agree with it entirely. As I said, the BBC News a few days ago now ran two pieces one almost directly after another, the first was John Major having to stand up and admit that the bright shiny dream he fought for and painted with lights and baubles is now so rotten and stinking of shit that even HE had had to admit he can smell it, the next was Ed Milliband, and do you know what I cannot now remember what the hell he was standing up to say his delivery was that bad.

But it isn't just the messenger. As I have tried to say repeatedly for a very long time, I detest the way britain has become a place where image and delivery is everything, but the fact is Ed is so acutely gawky, sweaty and uncomfortable in front of the cameras he simply fails to portray himself as a man of conviction, he simply does not come over to me a a man who believes in the message he is delivering, and the fact much of what he has said is the very opposite of what he said and did last time he was in charge does not help his cause.

What political leanings are you on about? I'm a social liberal and a centrist to boot. I dislike right wing and left wing extremists with equal disdain. Trouble is that the extremists have got hold of the country at the moment. This Tory government is one of the most extremely right wing we have had for many a year.

Well if they are, as you say, right wing extremists, remind me who elected them into office?

Did they pretend to be something else back in 2010?
Is this the first time we have had a Conservative government? Or is it true that they keep being elected with monotonous regularity? ( as indeed do Labour governments).

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

As we are all in the mood for discussing the shortcomings of Milliband, let's take a little time to consider his present position and also that of the Labour party.

Now, who could the Labour party possibly substitute for Ed?, there is not one single member in the shadow cabinet with the credibility or credentials to act upon the world stage as the British Prime minister.

Labour has never before forced a leader to resign before his term is over.

There has been no regret from the present shadow front bench for the difficulties imposed on this country through the open door immigration policy whereby only a supposed 13000 bods per year would come here, only retired Labour grandees have admitted that their policy was wrong.

You know when you are in sxxt street when your closest colleagues in the cabinet start bigging you up as the best thing since sliced bread, talking of bread, would we all now agree that poor ol' Ed is toast.?

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 10:40 PM

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

As we are all in the mood for discussing the shortcomings of Milliband, let's take a little time to consider his present position and also that of the Labour party.

Now, who could the Labour party possibly substitute for Ed?, there is not one single member in the shadow cabinet with the credibility or credentials to act upon the world stage as the British Prime minister.

Labour has never before forced a leader to resign before his term is over.

There has been no regret from the present shadow front bench for the difficulties imposed on this country through the open door immigration policy whereby only a supposed 13000 bods per year would come here, only retired Labour grandees have admitted that their policy was wrong.

You know when you are in sxxt street when your closest colleagues in the cabinet start bigging you up as the best thing since sliced bread, talking of bread, would we all now agree that poor ol' Ed is toast.?

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Well your incompetent Tory party has done bugger all about immigration either.

Now let's have a sensible debate and discuss the shortcomings of your leader Scameron? What has he done except make things even worse?

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 10:40 PM

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

As we are all in the mood for discussing the shortcomings of Milliband, let's take a little time to consider his present position and also that of the Labour party.

Now, who could the Labour party possibly substitute for Ed?, there is not one single member in the shadow cabinet with the credibility or credentials to act upon the world stage as the British Prime minister.

Labour has never before forced a leader to resign before his term is over.

There has been no regret from the present shadow front bench for the difficulties imposed on this country through the open door immigration policy whereby only a supposed 13000 bods per year would come here, only retired Labour grandees have admitted that their policy was wrong.

You know when you are in sxxt street when your closest colleagues in the cabinet start bigging you up as the best thing since sliced bread, talking of bread, would we all now agree that poor ol' Ed is toast.?

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Well your incompetent Tory party has done bugger all about immigration either.

Now let's have a sensible debate and discuss the shortcomings of your leader Scameron? What has he done except make things even worse?

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 10:40 PM

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

As we are all in the mood for discussing the shortcomings of Milliband, let's take a little time to consider his present position and also that of the Labour party.

Now, who could the Labour party possibly substitute for Ed?, there is not one single member in the shadow cabinet with the credibility or credentials to act upon the world stage as the British Prime minister.

Labour has never before forced a leader to resign before his term is over.

There has been no regret from the present shadow front bench for the difficulties imposed on this country through the open door immigration policy whereby only a supposed 13000 bods per year would come here, only retired Labour grandees have admitted that their policy was wrong.

You know when you are in sxxt street when your closest colleagues in the cabinet start bigging you up as the best thing since sliced bread, talking of bread, would we all now agree that poor ol' Ed is toast.?

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Well your incompetent Tory party has done bugger all about immigration either.

Now let's have a sensible debate and discuss the shortcomings of your leader Scameron? What has he done except make things even worse?

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 11:14 PM

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 10:40 PM

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

As we are all in the mood for discussing the shortcomings of Milliband, let's take a little time to consider his present position and also that of the Labour party.

Now, who could the Labour party possibly substitute for Ed?, there is not one single member in the shadow cabinet with the credibility or credentials to act upon the world stage as the British Prime minister.

Labour has never before forced a leader to resign before his term is over.

There has been no regret from the present shadow front bench for the difficulties imposed on this country through the open door immigration policy whereby only a supposed 13000 bods per year would come here, only retired Labour grandees have admitted that their policy was wrong.

You know when you are in sxxt street when your closest colleagues in the cabinet start bigging you up as the best thing since sliced bread, talking of bread, would we all now agree that poor ol' Ed is toast.?

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Well your incompetent Tory party has done bugger all about immigration either.

Now let's have a sensible debate and discuss the shortcomings of your leader Scameron? What has he done except make things even worse?

If you cannot answer my question then please do not expect me to answer yours.

RJD

Nov 16 2014, 08:26 AM

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 10:40 PM

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

As we are all in the mood for discussing the shortcomings of Milliband, let's take a little time to consider his present position and also that of the Labour party.

Now, who could the Labour party possibly substitute for Ed?, there is not one single member in the shadow cabinet with the credibility or credentials to act upon the world stage as the British Prime minister.

Labour has never before forced a leader to resign before his term is over.

There has been no regret from the present shadow front bench for the difficulties imposed on this country through the open door immigration policy whereby only a supposed 13000 bods per year would come here, only retired Labour grandees have admitted that their policy was wrong.

You know when you are in sxxt street when your closest colleagues in the cabinet start bigging you up as the best thing since sliced bread, talking of bread, would we all now agree that poor ol' Ed is toast.?

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Well your incompetent Tory party has done bugger all about immigration either.

Now let's have a sensible debate and discuss the shortcomings of your leader Scameron? What has he done except make things even worse?

List them.

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 10:40 PM

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

As we are all in the mood for discussing the shortcomings of Milliband, let's take a little time to consider his present position and also that of the Labour party.

Now, who could the Labour party possibly substitute for Ed?, there is not one single member in the shadow cabinet with the credibility or credentials to act upon the world stage as the British Prime minister.

Labour has never before forced a leader to resign before his term is over.

There has been no regret from the present shadow front bench for the difficulties imposed on this country through the open door immigration policy whereby only a supposed 13000 bods per year would come here, only retired Labour grandees have admitted that their policy was wrong.

You know when you are in sxxt street when your closest colleagues in the cabinet start bigging you up as the best thing since sliced bread, talking of bread, would we all now agree that poor ol' Ed is toast.?

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Well your incompetent Tory party has done bugger all about immigration either.

Now let's have a sensible debate and discuss the shortcomings of your leader Scameron? What has he done except make things even worse?

jaguar

Nov 16 2014, 01:41 PM

Lewis

Nov 15 2014, 10:40 PM

Rich

Nov 15 2014, 08:03 PM

somersetli

Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

Maybe the party would like to be rid of him, but it's a bit too close to the GE for that sort of upheaval.
I guess that they know he is a dud and a vote loser, but are hoping that UKIP will do well letting Labour in by default. Should that happen I do not think Milliband would survive as Leader for too long.

As we are all in the mood for discussing the shortcomings of Milliband, let's take a little time to consider his present position and also that of the Labour party.

Now, who could the Labour party possibly substitute for Ed?, there is not one single member in the shadow cabinet with the credibility or credentials to act upon the world stage as the British Prime minister.

Labour has never before forced a leader to resign before his term is over.

There has been no regret from the present shadow front bench for the difficulties imposed on this country through the open door immigration policy whereby only a supposed 13000 bods per year would come here, only retired Labour grandees have admitted that their policy was wrong.

You know when you are in sxxt street when your closest colleagues in the cabinet start bigging you up as the best thing since sliced bread, talking of bread, would we all now agree that poor ol' Ed is toast.?

I would be obliged if any other interested forum members could post some plus comments for the Labour party as I have tried my best to search for some good points about them in vain.

Well your incompetent Tory party has done bugger all about immigration either.

Now let's have a sensible debate and discuss the shortcomings of your leader Scameron? What has he done except make things even worse?

Has the country improved or worsened?
Cameron has lifted us out of recession, increased employment rates and improved Britain statistically. The problem here, is because people expect Cameron to make Britain the best country in the world and the superpower we once were.
It is no good taking labours lead and creating a false economy by spending money raised from the hard working tax payer on projects just to keep people employed. This is why Spain and Greece are in trouble. I salute your work Mr Cameron and look forward to a majority conservative government so you can continue to realign our economy, and start to squeeze the lazy who choose not to work and help the employed prosper and look after the needy.
I can't see what Miliband would do to improve on what Cameron is doing.