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| Topic Started: Nov 14 2014, 12:31 PM (250 Views) | |
| papasmurf | Nov 14 2014, 12:31 PM Post #1 |
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I wondered how long it would be before the cover up 30 years ago would start to unravel:- http://content.met.police.uk/News/Operation-Midland/1400027775342/1257246745756 Operation Midland 14 November 2014 Over the past month, detectives working on Operation Fairbank within the Met’s Specialist Crime and Operations unit have been made aware of allegations concerning serious non recent sexual abuse, said to have occurred over 30 years ago. Our inquiries into this, over subsequent weeks, have revealed further information regarding possible homicide. Based on our current knowledge, this is the first time that this specific information has been passed to the Met. At this early stage in this inquiry, with much work still to do, it is not appropriate to issue appeals or reveal more information. Detectives from the Child Abuse Investigation Command are working closely with colleagues from the Homicide and Major Crime Command concerning this information, which is being looked at under the name of Operation Midland. We will not be giving a commentary as this inquiry develops, and it is important that officers are allowed to pursue their work without interference. We will not comment upon speculation as to the identity of any person or locations that may or may not feature in this inquiry. |
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| Affa | Nov 14 2014, 02:57 PM Post #2 |
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We can only trust, and hope - but alas neither are strongly held as the MET is after all part of the same Establishment under investigation. |
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| Boxter | Nov 17 2014, 01:43 AM Post #3 |
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Find out which department of Mrs Mays ordered extra industrial sized shredders and who authorised the procurement and you will have found the guilty scum. In reality with so many top judges and lawyers involved the chances of ever getting to the truth of this sad sordid affair is about zero! |
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| RJD | Nov 18 2014, 08:22 AM Post #4 |
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I see innocent until proven otherwise has gone out of the window again. |
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| papasmurf | Nov 18 2014, 09:20 AM Post #5 |
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RJD, given the massive amount of disappeared documentation, plus I suggest you listen/watch a news bulletin to day, I suggest you get yourself up to speed. |
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| Gand | Nov 18 2014, 09:34 AM Post #6 |
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I can remember rumours at the time that this was going to break but it never did. |
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| Affa | Nov 18 2014, 07:26 PM Post #7 |
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With the EAW as part of UK law. yes! |
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| RoofGardener | Nov 18 2014, 07:59 PM Post #8 |
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In my opinion, Papasmurf has it right. A document from a sitting MP to the Home Office, with accusations of organised sexual abuse, "goes missing" ? Oh come ON..I guess it's POSSIBLE that it could go missing for innocent reasons. But... is it LIKELY ? This could be worse than Watergate. This could bring the establishment... never mind a sitting government.. down. This is going to run and run. |
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| papasmurf | Nov 18 2014, 08:31 PM Post #9 |
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It is not just one document though it is 143 files which (allegedly) disappeared somewhere between leaving Leon Brittan's hands and Sir Brian Cubbon's hands and MI5. |
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| AndyK | Nov 18 2014, 09:24 PM Post #10 |
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Abuse is one thing, but this appears to be on a completely different level. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tory-mp-strangled-boy-to-death-at-sex-abuse-party-victim-claims-9864608.html |
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| Rich | Nov 18 2014, 09:38 PM Post #11 |
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Correct me if I am wrong Papa. but I understood that the documents were handed over from the home office to the Met police and thence went missing. |
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| Tigger | Nov 18 2014, 09:40 PM Post #12 |
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Some of them might be socialists. 
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| Tigger | Nov 18 2014, 09:44 PM Post #13 |
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It'll be interesting to see how this information is undermined, there has been a persistent flow of rather sinister allegations from some as yet undisclosed sources that clearly want to pile some dirt on the establishment, I wish these whistleblowers the best of luck because they will need it. |
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| HIGHWAY | Nov 18 2014, 09:45 PM Post #14 |
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Yip who cares if there innocent,it's another way that we can have a go at the Tories the establishment,and after all that's what matters in life to some on this site |
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| HIGHWAY | Nov 18 2014, 09:47 PM Post #15 |
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Yip parties that people strangle kids to death,,,and he was allowed to live,, |
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| Deleted User | Nov 18 2014, 09:53 PM Post #16 |
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Despite the link about the alleged Tory MP they dont all seem to be Tories that are accused of grossly abusing children. |
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| HIGHWAY | Nov 18 2014, 09:54 PM Post #17 |
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That's why I didn't just say Tory's |
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| Deleted User | Nov 18 2014, 10:05 PM Post #18 |
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You meant the Tories and the rest of the establishment? |
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| Affa | Nov 18 2014, 10:16 PM Post #19 |
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I am very wary of what I read in the press. It could well be that this 'Nick' fella that witnessed a number of homicides is a stool pigeon plant, a so called victim that is eventually exposed as fabricating the whole thing - and there being a gift to the Establishment of an excuse to make out every allegation of possible fabrication. It's how they go about these things - discredit the source by any means. |
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| papasmurf | Nov 18 2014, 10:44 PM Post #20 |
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They never got to the Met police Sir Brian Cubbon diverted them to MI5 (allegedly.) |
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| HIGHWAY | Nov 18 2014, 10:58 PM Post #21 |
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The allegedly,part should be in capitals not brackets |
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| Deleted User | Nov 18 2014, 11:08 PM Post #22 |
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You are wrong Parentheses /pəˈrɛnθɨsiːz/ (singular, parenthesis /pəˈrɛnθɨsɨs/) (also called simply brackets, or round brackets, curved brackets, oval brackets, or, colloquially, parens /pəˈrɛnz/) contain material that serves to clarify, or is aside from the main point.[4] A milder effect may be obtained by using a pair of commas as the delimiter, though if the sentence contains commas for other purposes, visual confusion may result. In this context you use capitals to emphasise a point ( which he obviously was not doing).  Also if you wanted to emphasise the point you would not construct the sentence in the way it is anyway. |
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| Affa | Nov 18 2014, 11:21 PM Post #23 |
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I think Highway is making his own opinion felt there .... stating how he would make the reference. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 18 2014, 11:28 PM Post #24 |
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Do you? I think he was stating what he posted. |
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| papasmurf | Nov 18 2014, 11:31 PM Post #25 |
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Shut up Highway, you don't even know the difference between there and their. |
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| Affa | Nov 18 2014, 11:38 PM Post #26 |
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I do! Highway is asking for 'allegedly' to be emphasised. Expressing his own emphasis that nothing that was told is proven. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 19 2014, 12:01 AM Post #27 |
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If you simply changed the lower case ' allegedly' to capitals it would simply make the sentence a grammatical mess. You need to reconstruct the sentence. Did you not read the post? Are you Highways big brother? 
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| Affa | Nov 19 2014, 12:21 AM Post #28 |
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No relation afaiaa ....... It would not be the first time if I have misread the intended meaning. I will never deliberately misrepresent the posts of others, but to me what Highway wrote is precisely what I have said he meant - I see it clearly - you see something else. |
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| HIGHWAY | Nov 19 2014, 07:00 AM Post #29 |
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Thanks everyone for telling me what an thinking. Most have you missed your true calling,you wanted to be English teachers,but didn't have the balls to do it,,, At least we have moved on from saying a guy who's not here to defend himself,that not only is he a peado,but also murders people in front of others (allegedly) |
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| papasmurf | Nov 19 2014, 07:56 AM Post #30 |
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I suspect he will try and defend himself in court. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 19 2014, 12:07 PM Post #31 |
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What no capitals ?  |
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| Deleted User | Nov 19 2014, 04:58 PM Post #32 |
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Here is another person claiming that there was a cover up of evidence. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/19/father-police-covered-up-sons-murder-westminster-paedophile-ring Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, said the case needed to be investigated. “It is absolutely shocking that survivors of child abuse were not listened to,” he said on LBC radio. “You cannot think of more serious or grotesque allegations. It clearly needs to be looked into.” He said more broadly: “We are at early stage of a reckoning with our past that is on a scale and gravity that just a few months ago might have seemed unimaginable and almost too horrific to contemplate. The task is to peel back the layers of deception that appear to have happened in the past. |
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| rizzo | Nov 19 2014, 05:21 PM Post #33 |
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Putting aside the rights and wrongs of the process of the law let's hope that instead of concentrating on very old complaints, of course they have to be investigated and if possible anyone still living who was involved, brought to justice (some hopes), how about rooting out CURRENT abuses against children that surely must still be happening and so the perpetrators, whoever they are, can be brought to justice NOW. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 19 2014, 05:47 PM Post #34 |
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Indeed but by investigating historical cases too the police may get to understand how these secret pedophile rings worked , if they are still operating and how the authorities can protect children in the future. |
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