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Outrage as greedy EU demands MORE of your cash; Shock demand for £5.4billion from the European Union
Topic Started: Nov 21 2014, 01:29 AM (135 Views)
Boxter	Nov 21 2014, 01:29 AM Post #1
Regular Member Posts: 261 Group: Members Member #103 Joined: Oct 26, 2014	EU demand £5.4 million from British taxpayers The surprise claim is likely to further boost Ukip in today’s by-election in Kent. The poll already looks certain to give the party another spectacular victory. Members of the European Parliament demanded the cash – including £680million from British taxpayers – to settle unpaid bills. Anti-Brussels campaign groups were outraged last night about the sudden cash demand.Ukip MEP Jonathan Arnott, the party’s spokesman on the EU budget, said: “It is clear that the EU is beyond reform. “The only way for Britain to avoid being at the sharp end of more EU bills is to withdraw altogether.” And Jonathan Isaby, of the Tax- Payers’ Alliance, said: “The European Union has gone over-budget, and now wants British taxpayers to help pay the bills. It’s totally unacceptable and the Prime Minister must stand up to these demands.We must get a better deal from Brussels.” The only way for Britain to avoid being at the sharp end of more EU bills is to withdraw altogether Ukip MEP Jonathan Arnott The latest bill follows the row last month when a £1.7billion surcharge was slapped on Britain’s annual contribution to the EU because the UK economy had performed better than continental rivals. That total was later halved as a result of the annual EU rebate won by former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. The new demand for an eight per cent increase in EU funding was raised at a meeting in Brussels earlier this week. Talks over the sum broke down after a string of national governments, including Britain’s, rejected the increase. But officials on the European Com- mission are preparing to present a new budget for 2015 “in the coming days.” French MEP Jean Arthuis, a member of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats, said: “We must have a concrete response to the unbearable problem of unpaid invoices accumulating on the desks of the Commission. This jeopardises the credibility of the EU authority and feeds the arguments of Europhobes,” he said. Chancellor George Osborne is understood to be determined to block an increase in the EU budget.The row comes as fresh figures show that Britain will have paid more than £50billion into Brussels coffers by the end of the current five-year Parliamentary term. The figure was released by the Treasury in response to a Parliamentary question tabled by Independent Labour peer Lord Stoddart. He said: “As ever with EU costs, the figures are colossal.” The timing of the new row will wrong-foot Tories in today’s by-election in Rochester and Strood. Voters are expected to elect the constituency’s former Tory MP Mark Reckless, who defected to Ukip in September. If he wins, he will become Ukip’s second elected MP after fellow Tory defector Douglas Carswell won in Clacton last month. Mr Reckless yesterday attacked Conservative literature that he said risked linking immigration and crime. He was targeting a leaflet apparently quoting Tory candidate Kelly Tolhurst saying: “Most people I know here have worked hard all their lives, played by the rules and paid their fair share, but we sometimes struggle to access the services we need because of uncontrolled immigration. Others don’t feel safe walking down the high street of our town." ‘No limits’ on migrants EU freedom of movement laws are “non-negotiable”, a close ally of German Chancellor Angela Merkel has told British MPs. Gunther Krichbaum, a senior member of Mrs Merkel’s CDU party, made the comments at a dinner at Germany’s London embassy. Mr Krichbaum was responding to Sir John Major’s call for the laws to be suspended while southern EU economies recover from the eurozone crisis. He said: “Migration in itself is a fundamental right of the EU. It is non- negotiable. It is not something that can be reformed.”He said Germany backs restricting out-of-work benefits to EU migrants, and called on the UK to focus on this area of reform.He added: “To my astonishment there is no distinction in the British debate between the freedom of movement of people and controls on the movement of workers.”



Affa	Nov 21 2014, 01:38 AM Post #2
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	Quote: Britain will have paid more than £50billion into Brussels coffers by the end of the current five-year Parliamentary term. Cameron said he had reduced the UK bill, (Feb 2013) - it has gone up, Edited by Affa, Nov 21 2014, 01:46 AM.



Heinrich	Nov 21 2014, 01:44 AM Post #3
Regular Guy Posts: 2,920 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: Jul 22, 2014	It is only right that no EU member state is allowed to be a deadbeat.



Boxter	Nov 21 2014, 01:56 AM Post #4
Regular Member Posts: 261 Group: Members Member #103 Joined: Oct 26, 2014	Quote: It is only right that no EU member state is allowed to be a deadbeat. This member state will be totally dead and beat if this keeps up!



RJD	Nov 21 2014, 07:52 AM Post #5
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Beginning to believe that it is not particularly relevant whether we are members or not as they will take us down with them. I do not believe that EU reform can save them, they have gone too far and the Tar Baby, namely the Euro, is a terminal cancer for the PIIGS+France with Germany et al licking up the cream. No growth Europe is in the Doldrums and there is no sign she will find a fair wind for a decade or two if ever.



Heinrich	Nov 21 2014, 10:11 AM Post #6
Regular Guy Posts: 2,920 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: Jul 22, 2014	RJD Nov 21 2014, 07:52 AM Beginning to believe that it is not particularly relevant whether we are members or not as they will take us down with them. I do not believe that EU reform can save them, they have gone too far and the Tar Baby, namely the Euro, is a terminal cancer for the PIIGS+France with Germany et al licking up the cream. No growth Europe is in the Doldrums and there is no sign she will find a fair wind for a decade or two if ever. The Euro is here to stay.



papasmurf	Nov 21 2014, 10:15 AM Post #7
Senior Member Posts: 17,280 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:11 AM The Euro is here to stay. Over what time frame, because I would not put bets in the Dollar lasting much longer.



C-too	Nov 21 2014, 10:16 AM Post #8
Honourable Member Posts: 17,686 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: Jul 12, 2014	Boxter Nov 21 2014, 01:29 AM EU demand £5.4 million from British taxpayers The surprise claim is likely to further boost Ukip in today’s by-election in Kent. The poll already looks certain to give the party another spectacular victory. Members of the European Parliament demanded the cash – including £680million from British taxpayers – to settle unpaid bills. Anti-Brussels campaign groups were outraged last night about the sudden cash demand.Ukip MEP Jonathan Arnott, the party’s spokesman on the EU budget, said: “It is clear that the EU is beyond reform. “The only way for Britain to avoid being at the sharp end of more EU bills is to withdraw altogether.” And Jonathan Isaby, of the Tax- Payers’ Alliance, said: “The European Union has gone over-budget, and now wants British taxpayers to help pay the bills. It’s totally unacceptable and the Prime Minister must stand up to these demands.We must get a better deal from Brussels.” The only way for Britain to avoid being at the sharp end of more EU bills is to withdraw altogether Ukip MEP Jonathan Arnott The latest bill follows the row last month when a £1.7billion surcharge was slapped on Britain’s annual contribution to the EU because the UK economy had performed better than continental rivals. That total was later halved as a result of the annual EU rebate won by former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. The new demand for an eight per cent increase in EU funding was raised at a meeting in Brussels earlier this week. Talks over the sum broke down after a string of national governments, including Britain’s, rejected the increase. But officials on the European Com- mission are preparing to present a new budget for 2015 “in the coming days.” French MEP Jean Arthuis, a member of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats, said: “We must have a concrete response to the unbearable problem of unpaid invoices accumulating on the desks of the Commission. This jeopardises the credibility of the EU authority and feeds the arguments of Europhobes,” he said. Chancellor George Osborne is understood to be determined to block an increase in the EU budget.The row comes as fresh figures show that Britain will have paid more than £50billion into Brussels coffers by the end of the current five-year Parliamentary term. The figure was released by the Treasury in response to a Parliamentary question tabled by Independent Labour peer Lord Stoddart. He said: “As ever with EU costs, the figures are colossal.” The timing of the new row will wrong-foot Tories in today’s by-election in Rochester and Strood. Voters are expected to elect the constituency’s former Tory MP Mark Reckless, who defected to Ukip in September. If he wins, he will become Ukip’s second elected MP after fellow Tory defector Douglas Carswell won in Clacton last month. Mr Reckless yesterday attacked Conservative literature that he said risked linking immigration and crime. He was targeting a leaflet apparently quoting Tory candidate Kelly Tolhurst saying: “Most people I know here have worked hard all their lives, played by the rules and paid their fair share, but we sometimes struggle to access the services we need because of uncontrolled immigration. Others don’t feel safe walking down the high street of our town." ‘No limits’ on migrants EU freedom of movement laws are “non-negotiable”, a close ally of German Chancellor Angela Merkel has told British MPs. Gunther Krichbaum, a senior member of Mrs Merkel’s CDU party, made the comments at a dinner at Germany’s London embassy. Mr Krichbaum was responding to Sir John Major’s call for the laws to be suspended while southern EU economies recover from the eurozone crisis. He said: “Migration in itself is a fundamental right of the EU. It is non- negotiable. It is not something that can be reformed.”He said Germany backs restricting out-of-work benefits to EU migrants, and called on the UK to focus on this area of reform.He added: “To my astonishment there is no distinction in the British debate between the freedom of movement of people and controls on the movement of workers.” Can we have some confirmation and information on this call for extra cash from the EU?



Deleted User	Nov 21 2014, 10:19 AM Post #9
Deleted User	Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 01:44 AM It is only right that no EU member state is allowed to be a deadbeat. Quite right, which means that the EU will be reduced to about 7 nation states including Great Britain. Hopefully Britain won't have to bail out Germany and France yet again or perhaps they are the deadbeats you refer to.
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Heinrich	Nov 21 2014, 10:20 AM Post #10
Regular Guy Posts: 2,920 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: Jul 22, 2014	papasmurf Nov 21 2014, 10:15 AM Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:11 AM The Euro is here to stay. Over what time frame, because I would not put bets in the Dollar lasting much longer. The Euro is the common currency of the European Union as the dollar is the common currency of the sovereign states of the USA. This will remain so for the foreseeable future.



Affa	Nov 21 2014, 12:13 PM Post #11
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	RJD Nov 21 2014, 07:52 AM I do not believe that EU reform can save them, they have gone too far Completely agree!



Steve K	Nov 21 2014, 12:50 PM Post #12
Once and future cynic Posts: 33,990 Group: Admins Member #20 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	C-too Nov 21 2014, 10:16 AM Boxter Nov 21 2014, 01:29 AM . . EU demand £5.4 million from British taxpayers The surprise claim is likely to further boost Ukip in today’s by-election in Kent. The poll already looks certain to give the party another spectacular victory. . . . Can we have some confirmation and information on this call for extra cash from the EU? I wouldn't hold your breath. It was all a load of Bolloxtering that Boxter found in the UK's leading pornographer's rag As the EU hostile Daily Telegraph correctly put it "European Union budget talks have collapsed after Britain and other national governments refused to give in to demands from MEPs for eight per cent increase in Brussels spending." Does anyone need the words "refused" and "other national governments" explained to them? And maybe the OP author needs rule 10 explained to him. Edited by Steve K, Nov 21 2014, 01:30 PM.



Cymru	Nov 21 2014, 11:30 PM Post #13
Alt-Right Posts: 3,504 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: Jun 26, 2014	papasmurf Nov 21 2014, 10:15 AM Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:11 AM The Euro is here to stay. Over what time frame, because I would not put bets in the Dollar lasting much longer. Interesting, what makes you say that?



RJD	Nov 22 2014, 09:12 AM Post #14
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:20 AM papasmurf Nov 21 2014, 10:15 AM Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:11 AM The Euro is here to stay. Over what time frame, because I would not put bets in the Dollar lasting much longer. The Euro is the common currency of the European Union as the dollar is the common currency of the sovereign states of the USA. This will remain so for the foreseeable future. "Foreseeable future" is this 1, 5 or 10 years? I believe it will exist for a lot longer than 10 years but with less countries using it. Germany and a few others need to be pushed out to a Neu-DM to save the rest of the EZ. It is calculated, just the other day, that the burden placed on Italian exports due to trading with the Euro is now ~25%. Italy too must export or die, it also has a strong manufacturing base and it's demography is a nightmare. Italy is economy is going south and I suspect will be the first to leave the EZ and when they do it will be messy for us all. This political gamble has cost the EU it's place in the 21st C.



Heinrich	Nov 22 2014, 09:45 AM Post #15
Regular Guy Posts: 2,920 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: Jul 22, 2014	RJD Nov 22 2014, 09:12 AM Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:20 AM papasmurf Nov 21 2014, 10:15 AM Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:11 AM The Euro is here to stay. Over what time frame, because I would not put bets in the Dollar lasting much longer. The Euro is the common currency of the European Union as the dollar is the common currency of the sovereign states of the USA. This will remain so for the foreseeable future. "Foreseeable future" is this 1, 5 or 10 years? I believe it will exist for a lot longer than 10 years but with less countries using it. Germany and a few others need to be pushed out to a Neu-DM to save the rest of the EZ. It is calculated, just the other day, that the burden placed on Italian exports due to trading with the Euro is now ~25%. Italy too must export or die, it also has a strong manufacturing base and it's demography is a nightmare. Italy is economy is going south and I suspect will be the first to leave the EZ and when they do it will be messy for us all. This political gamble has cost the EU it's place in the 21st C. We cannot predict when the USA will collapse, or when the EU will either and their respective currencies will remain in use until then. It could be a thousand years.



Tigger	Nov 22 2014, 12:05 PM Post #16
Senior Member Posts: 20,106 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Major Sinic Nov 21 2014, 10:19 AM Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 01:44 AM It is only right that no EU member state is allowed to be a deadbeat. Quite right, which means that the EU will be reduced to about 7 nation states including Great Britain. Hopefully Britain won't have to bail out Germany and France yet again or perhaps they are the deadbeats you refer to. Is this the Britain that has "bought" it's "growth" by including inflated asset prices as GDP, printing money, lowering productivity and virtually doubling the nations debt? Or is another Britain I'm currently unaware of?



Tigger	Nov 22 2014, 12:12 PM Post #17
Senior Member Posts: 20,106 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	RJD Nov 22 2014, 09:12 AM Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:20 AM papasmurf Nov 21 2014, 10:15 AM Heinrich Nov 21 2014, 10:11 AM The Euro is here to stay. Over what time frame, because I would not put bets in the Dollar lasting much longer. The Euro is the common currency of the European Union as the dollar is the common currency of the sovereign states of the USA. This will remain so for the foreseeable future. "Foreseeable future" is this 1, 5 or 10 years? I believe it will exist for a lot longer than 10 years but with less countries using it. Germany and a few others need to be pushed out to a Neu-DM to save the rest of the EZ. It is calculated, just the other day, that the burden placed on Italian exports due to trading with the Euro is now ~25%. Italy too must export or die, it also has a strong manufacturing base and it's demography is a nightmare. Italy is economy is going south and I suspect will be the first to leave the EZ and when they do it will be messy for us all. This political gamble has cost the EU it's place in the 21st C. The really big fly in the ointment here is that Europe, minus Britain of course, trades with the rest of the World and makes a healthy trade surplus in the process. That will almost certainly allow the sun to carry on shining. And do you really expect the rest of the World let alone Europe to indefinitely put up with the British finance sectors cheating, skimming, asset stripping, manipulation and outright criminality?



papasmurf	Nov 22 2014, 12:16 PM Post #18
Senior Member Posts: 17,280 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Tigger Nov 22 2014, 12:12 PM And do you really expect the rest of the World let alone Europe to indefinitely put up with the British finance sectors cheating, skimming, asset stripping, manipulation and outright criminality? With not one person being jailed for it.



Affa	Nov 22 2014, 03:14 PM Post #19
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	The EU minus the UK loses its status as the worlds most powerful trading bloc.



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