Petition to revoke Tony Blair's award

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Petition to revoke Tony Blair's award
Topic Started: Nov 24 2014, 11:33 PM (145 Views)
papasmurf	Nov 24 2014, 11:33 PM Post #1
Senior Member Posts: 17,280 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	I signed this shortly after it started, I suspect a few others on the forum would like to as well:- https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/stop-save-the-children-charity-from-giving-tony-blair-their-annual-global-legacy-award?bucket=blast Ask 'Save the Children' to revoke their annual Global Legacy Award given to Tony Blair To: Save the Children 'Save the Children', please revoke the award given to Tony Blair in supposed recognition of his vanguard leadership on the world’s international development stage. As an international children's charity the choice of Tony Blair is not only controversial to say the least, as many see him as the cause of the deaths of countless children in the Middle East with damning allegations relating to his role as Middle East envoy and businesses dealings with autocratic rulers and others in the region. Why is this important? The former prime minister is central to Sir John Chilcot's inquiry into Britain’s controversial and protracted war in Iraq. Earlier this month, it emerged that Blair had signed a multimillion pound contract with a Saudi Arabian oil company in 2010 to broker secret deals on the firm’s behalf with Chinese state officials. The revelation raised serious questions over the former PM’s diplomatic role as Middle East envoy, and his personal vested interests in the region. Earlier this year, Blair managed to successfully quash a Serious Fraud Office investigation into alleged corruption regarding an arms deal with Saudi Arabia



Rich	Nov 24 2014, 11:49 PM Post #2
Senior Member Posts: 14,463 Group: Members Member #30 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	papasmurf Nov 24 2014, 11:33 PM I signed this shortly after it started, I suspect a few others on the forum would like to as well:- https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/stop-save-the-children-charity-from-giving-tony-blair-their-annual-global-legacy-award?bucket=blast Ask 'Save the Children' to revoke their annual Global Legacy Award given to Tony Blair To: Save the Children 'Save the Children', please revoke the award given to Tony Blair in supposed recognition of his vanguard leadership on the world’s international development stage. As an international children's charity the choice of Tony Blair is not only controversial to say the least, as many see him as the cause of the deaths of countless children in the Middle East with damning allegations relating to his role as Middle East envoy and businesses dealings with autocratic rulers and others in the region. Why is this important? The former prime minister is central to Sir John Chilcot's inquiry into Britain’s controversial and protracted war in Iraq. Earlier this month, it emerged that Blair had signed a multimillion pound contract with a Saudi Arabian oil company in 2010 to broker secret deals on the firm’s behalf with Chinese state officials. The revelation raised serious questions over the former PM’s diplomatic role as Middle East envoy, and his personal vested interests in the region. Earlier this year, Blair managed to successfully quash a Serious Fraud Office investigation into alleged corruption regarding an arms deal with Saudi Arabia Done......pdq. What gets me is I understood he was a Middle East PEACE envoy? What has he done and is it any better over there? Edited by Rich, Nov 24 2014, 11:51 PM.



Heinrich	Nov 25 2014, 12:45 AM Post #3
Regular Guy Posts: 2,920 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: Jul 22, 2014	I cannot sign because I do not have a valid postcode. I would if I could.



Pro Veritas	Nov 25 2014, 08:05 AM Post #4
Upstanding Member Posts: 7,030 Group: Admins Member #19 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Signed. I'd have also signed a petition just to "Revoke Tony Blair" which was all of the thread title I initially saw. For a second there I had high hopes. All The Best



AndyK	Nov 25 2014, 08:21 AM Post #5
Senior Member Posts: 2,474 Group: Members Member #69 Joined: Aug 11, 2014	Quote: Blair had been chosen for the award on account of his work while serving as Prime Minster, including setting up the Department for International Development and hosting two G8 summits. “The UK’s achievement of 0.7 per cent of GNI (gross national income) to international aid in 2014 is the culmination of work started under his leadership,” the spokesman said. Sounds like the award is deserved, so no, I will not sign it.



Pro Veritas	Nov 25 2014, 08:25 AM Post #6
Upstanding Member Posts: 7,030 Group: Admins Member #19 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	What percentage of GNI was spent on conflicts in those areas; conflict that almost certainly undid most if not all of the work the DID was attempting? No point looking at Blair's actions in isolation; the whole picture needs to be viewed - his "global legacy" is one of dubious conflict and wasted lives. All The Best



Alberich	Nov 25 2014, 01:28 PM Post #7
Alberich Posts: 1,695 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Will Chilcott's report ever see the light of day? I'm beginning to wonder. It is YEARS overdue, and how long can it really take for interested parties to make their representations before it is released? There are some really heavy blocking mechanisms at work here!



Affa	Nov 25 2014, 02:33 PM Post #8
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	I will not sign. In the words of William Hague during the Iraq debate, "if not now, then when ......". The UN desired Saddam was gone (including many Arab countries) - it was the use of veto preventing the UN's sanctioning the invasion. Small facts that detract from the politically motivated character assassination they pursue - from spite or envy.



marybrown	Nov 25 2014, 03:09 PM Post #9
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	Affa Nov 25 2014, 02:33 PM I will not sign. In the words of William Hague during the Iraq debate, "if not now, then when ......". The UN desired Saddam was gone (including many Arab countries) - it was the use of veto preventing the UN's sanctioning the invasion. Small facts that detract from the politically motivated character assassination they pursue - from spite or envy. Yes..and look what a hell hole most of the middle east has become.. Arab spring...Pandora's box more like!! Shame it wasn't an award for being a self serving, war mongering bastard...



RJD	Nov 25 2014, 03:41 PM Post #10
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	This overtly political and the award was for something that is specific, namely that which benefits children in Africa. I have no liking for Mr Blair, but find I could not lend my name to this. Very few PM have clean hands, if they have then they probably have not done anything of note. I think it a mistake to discourage them from undertaking works of charity, particularly for the benefit of children.



marybrown	Nov 25 2014, 03:50 PM Post #11
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	Was there any breakdown of what he actually did..or did he just lob a few millions out of our taxpayers money..Don't sound to difficult to me..



RJD	Nov 25 2014, 04:01 PM Post #12
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	marybrown Nov 25 2014, 03:50 PM Was there any breakdown of what he actually did..or did he just lob a few millions out of our taxpayers money..Don't sound to difficult to me.. Does it really matter to the receiver? By all means castigate Blair for being a crap PM and taking us into wars, but please do not let politics ride on the backs of a charitable act towards children in need.



marybrown	Nov 25 2014, 04:08 PM Post #13
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	But they are always in need..no matter how much we send..it's a bottomless pit.. Was it his own money..LOL..or ours.. We are sending 8.3 billion.. Did he sign a bit of paper?..when we have pensioners dying from cold? and we have children here who do not get enough to eat??



RJD	Nov 25 2014, 04:14 PM Post #14
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	marybrown Nov 25 2014, 04:08 PM But they are always in need..no matter how much we send..it's a bottomless pit.. Was it his own money..LOL..or ours.. We are sending 8.3 billion.. Did he sign a bit of paper?..when we have pensioners dying from cold? and we have children here who do not get enough to eat?? That is another argument Mary. You can claim that the money would be best spent elsewhere, but that is nothing to do with the political protest.



marybrown	Nov 25 2014, 04:25 PM Post #15
Senior Member Posts: 10,516 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: Jul 27, 2014	You're gonna have to make your mind up..It is a political protest...and the fact that ''cheesy grin'' Blair probably killed hundreds of children in Iraq..and now he's getting an award for sending off money that isn't his in the first place.. To African children? Stinks of hypocrisy... It's a bit like Hitler starting up a matzo factory...



RJD	Nov 26 2014, 05:06 PM Post #16
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	marybrown Nov 25 2014, 04:25 PM You're gonna have to make your mind up..It is a political protest...and the fact that ''cheesy grin'' Blair probably killed hundreds of children in Iraq..and now he's getting an award for sending off money that isn't his in the first place.. To African children? Stinks of hypocrisy... It's a bit like Hitler starting up a matzo factory... I did. I chose not to lend my name, but continue to believe that he was/is a Charlatan. That said it was Brown that gave us NL, not Blair.



Pro Veritas	Nov 26 2014, 07:02 PM Post #17
Upstanding Member Posts: 7,030 Group: Admins Member #19 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	RJD Nov 26 2014, 05:06 PM That said it was Brown that gave us NL, not Blair. Are you delusional? NL was 100% a Blair thing, it was Blair's "re-invention" of Labour to make them electable. How you think Blair didn't give us NL is quite beyond me. All The Best



RJD	Nov 27 2014, 08:53 AM Post #18
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Pro Veritas Nov 26 2014, 07:02 PM RJD Nov 26 2014, 05:06 PM That said it was Brown that gave us NL, not Blair. Are you delusional? NL was 100% a Blair thing, it was Blair's "re-invention" of Labour to make them electable. How you think Blair didn't give us NL is quite beyond me. All The Best It is beyond me that you are ignorant of the pre-1997 and post Smith machinations. Seems you only read headlines and today it is simple to dump NL bad history all on Blair's head. Not true, Blair had the silver tongue to deliver the new message, aimed at the middle classes, but Brown was the back-room architect.



Nonsense	Nov 28 2014, 08:33 PM Post #19
Regular Member Posts: 762 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Nov 27, 2014	Best to make it a 'double',he was given,like Thatcher before, the American Medal of Honor for telling lies about weapons of mass destruction, sending our servicemen to Iraq to rid that country of Saddam Hussein,because G BUSH's father screwed up there the first time around & for depleting this country's treasure in that military support. He not only received the MoH,but,like Thatcher, had his pockets stuffed with American gold on the 'lecture circuit of America, a device for making corrupt payments to the Lacky's of American policy. Remember,that 'gold' was a payment for our servicemen's blood in Iraq, NOT for anything DONE by BLIAR himself.



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