Roger Bird - Plot Thickens

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Roger Bird - Plot Thickens
Topic Started: Dec 12 2014, 10:05 AM (255 Views)
Pro Veritas	Dec 12 2014, 10:05 AM Post #1
Upstanding Member Posts: 7,030 Group: Admins Member #19 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	SOme of you may be aware of the ongoing news story regarding Roger Bird, general secretary of UKIP and recently suspended over allegations of sexual harassment towards another UKIP candidate, Natasha Bolter. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/09/ukips-suspended-roger-bird-denies-sexual-harassment Bird claimed that there was a consensual relationship between them. Bolter denied this. Bird released texts and e-mails to him from Bolter that seem to indicate some degree of intimacy prior to the sexual harassment claim. But the latest turn is this: Natasha Bolter claims to have red PPE (Philosophy, Politics, Economics) at Oxford; Oxford says she hasn't. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/oxford-university-rejects-natasha-bolters-ppe-degree-claims-as-roger-bird-ukip-sex-scandal-rolls-on-9917027.html Quote: “We've recently seen an interview transcript in which Natasha claimed to have attended Wadham,” the spokesperson said, “and can therefore confirm that Oxford University has no record of a Natasha Ahmed (Ms Bolter's maiden name) with a birthday of 12 July 1975 having attended Oxford.” So just what is going on? Now, I may be a bit cynical when it comes to politics but I think it no accident nor coincidence that Natasha Bolter was a former Labour supporter. I seriously suspect that this sexual harassment claim was a stitch-up from the start. EDIT: Plot thickens; seems Bolter may still be a paid up member of the Labour Party. All The Best Edited by Pro Veritas, Dec 12 2014, 10:15 AM.



RJD	Dec 12 2014, 12:04 PM Post #2
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Agent Provocateur perhaps.



jaguar	Dec 12 2014, 12:22 PM Post #3
Regular Member Posts: 980 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	Sounds like a plot from "Where Eagles Dare", place an agent to destroy a party within. Nothing surprises me with the Labour party. Then and again, Mr Bird has published texts and e-mails which he claims show he was in a consensual relationship with Ms Bolter between 18 September and 2 November, when he said he requested it should end. As the old saying goes, A Woman Scorned.........................



Tigger	Dec 12 2014, 12:26 PM Post #4
Senior Member Posts: 20,106 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Kippers have dirty little secrets as well. Who'd have thought it!



Cymru	Dec 12 2014, 03:19 PM Post #5
Alt-Right Posts: 3,504 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: Jun 26, 2014	Looks like a Labour attempt to discredit UKIP, something I expected the main parties would start doing sooner than later. Good thing it has failed. Note though how now the allegations are increasingly suspect this story has began to fade from the headlines? The establishment's media buddies hoping the public will only remember the initial headline story which undermines UKIP rather than the new developments which exonerates them. Edited by Cymru, Dec 12 2014, 03:30 PM.



Alberich	Dec 12 2014, 04:52 PM Post #6
Alberich Posts: 1,695 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Sounds to me like a woman with a problem.......apart from supporting Labour, that is.



Affa	Dec 12 2014, 05:52 PM Post #7
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	The woman is a career mole, and enlisted with Labour to do the same there, as with UKIP. D Green had his mole in the immigration office, likely there are more moles than honest advisers. When the stakes are so high everything is possible, even Mata Hari seductresses with a living to make. Edited by Affa, Dec 12 2014, 05:52 PM.



Tytoalba	Dec 12 2014, 11:48 PM Post #8
Senior Member Posts: 7,586 Group: Members Member #36 Joined: Jun 29, 2014	Pro Veritas Dec 12 2014, 10:05 AM SOme of you may be aware of the ongoing news story regarding Roger Bird, general secretary of UKIP and recently suspended over allegations of sexual harassment towards another UKIP candidate, Natasha Bolter. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/09/ukips-suspended-roger-bird-denies-sexual-harassment Bird claimed that there was a consensual relationship between them. Bolter denied this. Bird released texts and e-mails to him from Bolter that seem to indicate some degree of intimacy prior to the sexual harassment claim. But the latest turn is this: Natasha Bolter claims to have red PPE (Philosophy, Politics, Economics) at Oxford; Oxford says she hasn't. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/oxford-university-rejects-natasha-bolters-ppe-degree-claims-as-roger-bird-ukip-sex-scandal-rolls-on-9917027.html Quote: “We've recently seen an interview transcript in which Natasha claimed to have attended Wadham,” the spokesperson said, “and can therefore confirm that Oxford University has no record of a Natasha Ahmed (Ms Bolter's maiden name) with a birthday of 12 July 1975 having attended Oxford.” So just what is going on? Now, I may be a bit cynical when it comes to politics but I think it no accident nor coincidence that Natasha Bolter was a former Labour supporter. I seriously suspect that this sexual harassment claim was a stitch-up from the start. EDIT: Plot thickens; seems Bolter may still be a paid up member of the Labour Party. All The Best I agree . My instincts suggest that it is a stitch up ,and the evidence so far suggests it is so. Her credentials seem to suggest that she was a left wing, anti racist, anti UKIP placement who has revealed herself too soon. Her identity and background seems to be so opposed to the UKIP agenda.



Cymru	Dec 24 2014, 12:53 AM Post #9
Alt-Right Posts: 3,504 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: Jun 26, 2014	Ukip's Bird cleared of impropriety http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/ukips-bird-cleared-of-impropriety-30859383.html There you go. Edited by Cymru, Dec 24 2014, 12:55 AM.



Tigger	Dec 24 2014, 10:21 AM Post #10
Senior Member Posts: 20,106 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Cymru Dec 24 2014, 12:53 AM Ukip's Bird cleared of impropriety http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/ukips-bird-cleared-of-impropriety-30859383.html There you go. Cleared by an "independent HR expert"? Might as well have got a five year old to conduct the inquest! He's still buggering off though, presumably to avoid lingering suspicion and the rather odious smell. Edited by Tigger, Dec 24 2014, 10:22 AM.



papasmurf	Dec 24 2014, 01:46 PM Post #11
Senior Member Posts: 17,280 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	jaguar Dec 12 2014, 12:22 PM Sounds like a plot from "Where Eagles Dare", place an agent to destroy a party within. Nothing surprises me with the Labour party. Why would Labour want to destroy UKIP? I suspect it is the Tories and the right wing media up to all the dirty tricks.



Affa	Dec 24 2014, 04:14 PM Post #12
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	papasmurf Dec 24 2014, 01:46 PM jaguar Dec 12 2014, 12:22 PM Sounds like a plot from "Where Eagles Dare", place an agent to destroy a party within. Nothing surprises me with the Labour party. Why would Labour want to destroy UKIP? I suspect it is the Tories and the right wing media up to all the dirty tricks. The Establishment PS. The same people who infiltrate any and all protest groups. It is how they maintain control, are able to dictate. Where the main parties are concerned, these are already 'Part' of the Establishment ......... and UKIP itself will be also, eventually.



Deleted User	Dec 24 2014, 05:10 PM Post #13
Deleted User	Anyone with a modicum of intelligence and an ability to read can see that UKIP is a neo liberalist , elitist wolf in sheep's ( worried working class people who demand a easy solution to their perceived problems) clothing. Why the major parties need to resort to dirty tricks says more about them than UKIP.
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Lewis	Dec 30 2014, 09:46 AM Post #14
Senior Member Posts: 3,478 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	papasmurf Dec 24 2014, 01:46 PM jaguar Dec 12 2014, 12:22 PM Sounds like a plot from "Where Eagles Dare", place an agent to destroy a party within. Nothing surprises me with the Labour party. Why would Labour want to destroy UKIP? I suspect it is the Tories and the right wing media up to all the dirty tricks. Precisely, the Tory incompetents have more to lose, anyway!



Affa	Dec 30 2014, 10:47 AM Post #15
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	Lewis Dec 30 2014, 09:46 AM papasmurf Dec 24 2014, 01:46 PM jaguar Dec 12 2014, 12:22 PM Sounds like a plot from "Where Eagles Dare", place an agent to destroy a party within. Nothing surprises me with the Labour party. Why would Labour want to destroy UKIP? I suspect it is the Tories and the right wing media up to all the dirty tricks. Precisely, the Tory incompetents have more to lose, anyway! I seriously do suspect the State responsible, and no particular party. UKIP are a threat to the Establishment, their desire to remain in the EU ...... that Establishment is far more than Political parties, Whitehall, CBI, MI5, Press, - you name it and the State has control of it. It will take control of UKIP too eventually, as improbable as that must seem at this juncture.



HIGHWAY	Dec 30 2014, 11:04 AM Post #16
Senior Member Posts: 4,040 Group: Members Member #54 Joined: Jul 23, 2014	papasmurf Dec 24 2014, 01:46 PM jaguar Dec 12 2014, 12:22 PM Sounds like a plot from "Where Eagles Dare", place an agent to destroy a party within. Nothing surprises me with the Labour party. Why would Labour want to destroy UKIP? I suspect it is the Tories and the right wing media up to all the dirty tricks. Some on here are saying the lady in question is still a paid up labour member, You suspect it's a Tory and there pals in the media who started this plot,lol The only surprise is your not saying it's IDS fault.



jaguar	Dec 30 2014, 01:04 PM Post #17
Regular Member Posts: 980 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	Natasha Bolter is a card carrying Labour activist who claims to have read PPE (PHILOSOPHY, Politics, Economics), we all now know she is a liar, yet PS believes it is the Tories and the right wing media up to all the dirty tricks. Why would Labour want to destroy UKIP? Because they are a serious threat especially up North. Edited by jaguar, Dec 30 2014, 01:05 PM.



papasmurf	Dec 30 2014, 01:11 PM Post #18
Senior Member Posts: 17,280 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	jaguar Dec 30 2014, 01:04 PM Natasha Bolter is a card carrying Labour activist That is factually inaccurate.



jaguar	Dec 30 2014, 01:22 PM Post #19
Regular Member Posts: 980 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: Jun 28, 2014	papasmurf Dec 30 2014, 01:11 PM jaguar Dec 30 2014, 01:04 PM Natasha Bolter is a card carrying Labour activist That is factually inaccurate. Apologies, Natasha Bolter WAS a card carrying Labour activist. And of course you have proof that she is not still a card carrying Labour activist



papasmurf	Dec 30 2014, 01:32 PM Post #20
Senior Member Posts: 17,280 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	jaguar Dec 30 2014, 01:22 PM And of course you have proof that she is not still a card carrying Labour activist Apparently she was expelled from New Labour for non-payment of fees.



RJD	Dec 30 2014, 04:14 PM Post #21
Prudence and Thrift Posts: 12,499 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	I continue to be amazed at how quickly the Usuals resort to claims of conspiracy. It cannot possibly true therefore it must be a conspiracy.



Affa	Dec 30 2014, 05:36 PM Post #22
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	If the woman were a Labour activists, a party member, a committed Socialist, none of that is proof that the Party were involved in her deceit. I have stated that the most likely accomplices were the State police, the ones that put moles into any and all political organisations, protest groups. The motive for these plants is invariably 'money'. Edited by Affa, Dec 30 2014, 05:36 PM.



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