Tytoalba

Dec 15 2014, 12:03 AM

Tigger

Dec 14 2014, 06:44 PM

HIGHWAY

Dec 14 2014, 12:41 PM

krugerman

Dec 14 2014, 12:36 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

Here it comes,,,it's this governments fault,,,not the previous governments

Does the government(s) not make the laws then?

No hurry on this one.

The government proposes the laws and changes to them where necessary. They are debated in both Houses of Westminster, and passed or rejected by a vote of all MPs. In recent times some members of the government have opposed the proposals whilst some members of the opposition have supported them, and some in all parties abstain Nothing is passed into law unless supported by the majority.

RJD

Dec 15 2014, 01:19 PM

It is rather amusing that many here think that all those piles of defrauded Taxes are leaning against a shed just outside HMRC Head Offices. Muppets. Most is well beyond the reach of HMRC and to gain any access or attachment will likely require other Governments to change their Laws. By all means recruit yourself a 1,000 Jobs-worthies and ask them to twiddle their thumbs. Fortunately Osborne knows that the solution is via international cooperation.

Cymru

Dec 14 2014, 06:52 PM

ranger121

Dec 14 2014, 06:37 PM

Germany asking for their gold back is also interesting.

Yep.

They were only given a few bars back and the serial numbers on the bars did not match any which were on the bars originally handed over by the Germans.

Puppets.

Tigger

Dec 15 2014, 10:22 AM

Rich

Dec 14 2014, 09:41 PM

Marconi

Dec 13 2014, 10:30 PM

Affa

Dec 13 2014, 07:34 PM

Lots of Officer's Mess stuff on here ........ or Captain's table conversation ...... "Brand maybe rich, but he's still a commoner". "Not one of us".

Yep, Class War ended years ago and what a stupid war that was. I have a lot of respect for those who have both money AND a social conscience, because they could easily pull up the drawbridge and not give a fig, like so many others do.

Brand does not speak for me. Of course not all politicians and bankers are corrupt, that would be ridiculous. But he is right to call them out, to look at their own actions and the consequences that follow.

Farage and Brand both represent opposite extremes of the disenfranchised in the UK. I was surprised that immigration was not so such a hot topic for discussion on that programme.

And to answer Mary's question about why Brand doesn't stand for election. Why should he. He has positioned himself as to be on the outside looking in. A very comfortable position to be in, admittedly. So much easier there to throw rocks and run away.

But he is right about Farage. Watch him. He too sells himself as someone who attacks the political elite. But if he ever got in a position of real power he will just be part of the same elite he claims to attack.

As the line says, Here comes the new boss. Same as the old boss. But just an extreme version of what we got now.

Can anyone who watched question time actually say that Brand put forth any sort of argument against other panel members other than ad homs/insults?

he reminds me of a member of this forum.

I ALWAYS bring facts to the table when required.

Your serial bigotry and cloth ears prevent you from learning anything that might enlighten you.

RJD

Dec 15 2014, 03:13 PM

As I said you are hyping up what turns out to be groundnuts.

Tigger

Dec 15 2014, 10:22 AM

Rich

Dec 14 2014, 09:41 PM

Marconi

Dec 13 2014, 10:30 PM

Affa

Dec 13 2014, 07:34 PM

Lots of Officer's Mess stuff on here ........ or Captain's table conversation ...... "Brand maybe rich, but he's still a commoner". "Not one of us".

Yep, Class War ended years ago and what a stupid war that was. I have a lot of respect for those who have both money AND a social conscience, because they could easily pull up the drawbridge and not give a fig, like so many others do.

Brand does not speak for me. Of course not all politicians and bankers are corrupt, that would be ridiculous. But he is right to call them out, to look at their own actions and the consequences that follow.

Farage and Brand both represent opposite extremes of the disenfranchised in the UK. I was surprised that immigration was not so such a hot topic for discussion on that programme.

And to answer Mary's question about why Brand doesn't stand for election. Why should he. He has positioned himself as to be on the outside looking in. A very comfortable position to be in, admittedly. So much easier there to throw rocks and run away.

But he is right about Farage. Watch him. He too sells himself as someone who attacks the political elite. But if he ever got in a position of real power he will just be part of the same elite he claims to attack.

As the line says, Here comes the new boss. Same as the old boss. But just an extreme version of what we got now.

Can anyone who watched question time actually say that Brand put forth any sort of argument against other panel members other than ad homs/insults?

he reminds me of a member of this forum.

I ALWAYS bring facts to the table when required.

Your serial bigotry and cloth ears prevent you from learning anything that might enlighten you.

Tigger

Dec 15 2014, 06:27 PM

RJD

Dec 15 2014, 01:19 PM

It is rather amusing that many here think that all those piles of defrauded Taxes are leaning against a shed just outside HMRC Head Offices. Muppets. Most is well beyond the reach of HMRC and to gain any access or attachment will likely require other Governments to change their Laws. By all means recruit yourself a 1,000 Jobs-worthies and ask them to twiddle their thumbs. Fortunately Osborne knows that the solution is via international cooperation.

Not really, you simply stipulate that if you do business in this country you have your base here as well and not in some tax haven, but of course that would be anti business wouldn't it? And lets face it Europhobe's keep telling us that these big companies need our business more than we need them so why isn't Osbrowne doing anything about it?

It is an entirely deliberate ploy and cuts no ice with anyone except the usual self deceivers.

Affa

Dec 15 2014, 11:53 PM

You dropped your guard again oh wise owl ...... I see an opening for a right cross that you will find difficult to avoid.

Just offering friendly advice, is all.

Steve K

Dec 16 2014, 03:32 PM

From elsewhere on the web

Russell Brand shown up for what he is

Best thing I've read so far today