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The jobs miracle
Topic Started: Dec 22 2014, 09:19 AM (429 Views)
RJD
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Britain's job-rich recovery will strengthen next year, with robust growth in permanent employment paving the way for the broadest rise in real pay since before the financial crisis, according to a respected survey.
The Confederation of British Industry (CBI) said half of all businesses planned to step-up hiring in 2015, with growth expected in every region of the UK next year.


This is certainly not what the Jeremiahs who always wish to talk Britain down wish to hear. No doubt they will claim such statements are pure propaganda.


Job rich recovery


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papasmurf
Dec 23 2014, 04:37 PM
RJD
Dec 23 2014, 04:34 PM
Also ask yourself why is the UK currently a magnet for inward investment,

Because Britain is now a tax haven due to Osborne turning a blind eye to corporate tax evasion.
Here we go again. I really cannot do anything with that type of BS. Prove your claim that Osborne is turning a blind eye to tax evasion.
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Tigger
Dec 23 2014, 04:36 PM
RJD
Dec 23 2014, 04:04 PM

The UK is not a low tax country, quite the contrary, and there is no evidence to show that higher taxes will help, the likelihood is that they will hinder and possibly result in lower overall revenues. There is no other route to cutting VAT and Payroll Taxes than first to cut the size of the State, relying on GDP growth is fanciful as we have seen. And no the quality of the GDP growth experienced by this Gov. would have been no better had the last lot continued only the volume might have been lower. You cannot buck the market there are just too many people chasing too few jobs.

Here is a radical solution, how about increasing the education budget to match the best in Europe? Scary stuff eh? And how about making work actually pay again instead of subsidizing the low paid so they in turn can hand over that money to rent seekers and other useless tossers who are the ones really sucking big nannies tit?

And of course it has still not sunk into your dense skull that the OECD now has conclusive proof that contradicts right wing retard logic that says tax increases for the better off are not harmful to the economy, especially if that money finds it's way into the pockets of the less well off who actually recycle it back into the economy instead of just speculating with it.


All you are proposing is a repetition of previous failed policies where the less well off have the rug pulled from under them and the wealthy see their assets and rights increase even further.

File under blatant biddy bollocks.
Well if one doubles the budget and standards decline one usually avoids making the same mistake and wonders whether or not the problem is elsewhere.

As for "making work pay" here is a scary question for you "how"?

Where is your OECD proof. Need to read it myself as I have grave doubts on your ability to understand such reports. In fact the weight of the evidence appears to be the exact opposite to that which you claim, but that is par for your course. What is it exactly that you think you understand? That is a very serious question.





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RJD
Dec 23 2014, 04:34 PM
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Dec 23 2014, 04:24 PM
RJD
Dec 23 2014, 04:04 PM
Castigate the Gov. by all means but the only stick you have is for not cutting fast enough.
Rubbish.

They could cut less and still achieve the rebalancing they need if they taxed companies and the wealthy at the same level as they tax the poor.

All The Best
Instead of the tedious sound bites why not put some meat on the bone.

Have you not noticed that the increases in CGT has resulted in reduced revenues. Put Corp taxes by all means, but recognise that this flows through to product prices. Also ask yourself why is the UK currently a magnet for inward investment, investment which does create jobs. Recognise that if you increase taxes on the wealthy as you require that you might then encourage many of these to be tax domicile elsewhere. Have you actually calculated how much more of a burden you intend to put on them or is this just another convenient sound bite? Time for some numbers don't you thin?




Here is some meat for your bone but feel free to ignore it because the devil is in the detail.

According to the website Gov.UK Britain attracted 1773 "large" foreign investments last year, France 1081 and Germany a mere 852, the trouble is this "investment" in many cases involves buying out British owned businesses and naturally shipping out the profits, money shuffling enterprises naturally also figure high on the list and for the most part the jobs created are low wage and low skilled,better than nothing but nothing to get excited about either.

Now a cynic like me might argue that the Germans for example have less to flog off in the resultant fire sale and do not need this sort of "investment" that Britain clearly attracts.

And here is one of my favourite statistics to back this supposition up, in the same calender year Britain had it's worst trade deficit since 1989 while the Germans had their biggest trade surplus ever.

File under selling Britain down the river pound by pound............
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RJD
Dec 23 2014, 04:53 PM
Tigger
Dec 23 2014, 04:36 PM
RJD
Dec 23 2014, 04:04 PM

The UK is not a low tax country, quite the contrary, and there is no evidence to show that higher taxes will help, the likelihood is that they will hinder and possibly result in lower overall revenues. There is no other route to cutting VAT and Payroll Taxes than first to cut the size of the State, relying on GDP growth is fanciful as we have seen. And no the quality of the GDP growth experienced by this Gov. would have been no better had the last lot continued only the volume might have been lower. You cannot buck the market there are just too many people chasing too few jobs.

Here is a radical solution, how about increasing the education budget to match the best in Europe? Scary stuff eh? And how about making work actually pay again instead of subsidizing the low paid so they in turn can hand over that money to rent seekers and other useless tossers who are the ones really sucking big nannies tit?

And of course it has still not sunk into your dense skull that the OECD now has conclusive proof that contradicts right wing retard logic that says tax increases for the better off are not harmful to the economy, especially if that money finds it's way into the pockets of the less well off who actually recycle it back into the economy instead of just speculating with it.


All you are proposing is a repetition of previous failed policies where the less well off have the rug pulled from under them and the wealthy see their assets and rights increase even further.

File under blatant biddy bollocks.
Well if one doubles the budget and standards decline one usually avoids making the same mistake and wonders whether or not the problem is elsewhere.

As for "making work pay" here is a scary question for you "how"?

Where is your OECD proof. Need to read it myself as I have grave doubts on your ability to understand such reports. In fact the weight of the evidence appears to be the exact opposite to that which you claim, but that is par for your course. What is it exactly that you think you understand? That is a very serious question.





Google it.

Other posters have put up the data before and predictably you played dumb, I even started a thread on this elsewhere and needless to say you did a runner.

Repeat performance on the cards by any chance? :)
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RJD
Dec 23 2014, 04:53 PM

As for "making work pay" here is a scary question for you "how"?





One more time just for you, hopefully you'll appreciate my efforts despite your senility.

Remove all supports holding up asset prices it actually discourages many from doing any meaningful work! I of course realise that this will impact the better off but we've had an easy ride under this government haven't we?

Average wage in UK in the past year, £27,271, average increase in value of the average house, £29,339 and needless to say the figures for London are far in excess of this.(ONS)

Now as a self confessed genius you should be able to see that this will suck money out of the pockets of those who can least afford it while putting speculative wealth into the pockets of people who have not had to lift a finger.

File under throw away your Mastermind application form.
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RJD
Dec 23 2014, 04:34 PM

Also ask yourself why is the UK currently a magnet for inward investment, investment which does create jobs.




A bit of propaganda that doesn't stand scrutiny.
Units = GBP (£) millions.
Figures are the actual value in Sterling (not inflation adjusted). Mentioned for those wanting to do a sensible analysis instead of a politically motivated analysis.


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