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Nigel Farage named Briton of the year by the Times
Topic Started: Dec 27 2014, 03:42 PM (2,919 Views)
AndyK
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The 50-year-old was described as "game-changing" politician and was honoured for "bulldozing" his party into the political mainstream during 2014.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/548896/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-UK-Independence-Party-Briton-of-the-Year-2014-The-Times
Edited by AndyK, Dec 27 2014, 03:43 PM.
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Jan 9 2015, 07:50 PM
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Jan 9 2015, 07:34 PM
krugerman
Jan 8 2015, 10:16 PM
Rich
Jan 8 2015, 07:57 PM
"The real facts of this matter is that some of our public services, in particular our NHS was in a shocking state in 1997, thats the blunt truth, the investment put into those public services which some here criticise, was not onlt desperately needed, it was also supported and endorsed by the majority of the people."

What do you think of the NHS now after four years of maintaining the funding level? do you agree that to keep funding the body without reforms is good value for the taxpayer or should it always be a sacred cow and a bottomless pit for throwing money into?, if you do agree to reforms, where would you start?
The only people who thought the NHS needed a colossal reorganisation ( so called "reforms" ) was the government, every professional body from the Royal College of Pysychiatrists to the Hospital Consultants & Specialist Association ( of which my wife is a member ) opposed the unecessary and costly reforms.

The so called "reforms" will not make anything any better, all evidence so far suggests it has made things much worse, and we all know that the reforms were merely a smokescreen to allow for the mass privatization of our NHS, mostly by companies which donate money to the Conservative Party




So, out of the 14 hospitals so far that have declared themselves to be in a crisis situation, how many of them are privately run and for a profit that is returned to shareholders and investors?
Not the point, we were told and some on here keep telling us that private and for profit is invariably better.

This is clearly bollocks.
As is your comment, answer my question please.
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Jan 9 2015, 07:54 PM
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Jan 8 2015, 10:16 PM

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So, out of the 14 hospitals so far that have declared themselves to be in a crisis situation, how many of them are privately run and for a profit that is returned to shareholders and investors?
Not the point, we were told and some on here keep telling us that private and for profit is invariably better.

This is clearly bollocks.
As is your comment, answer my question please.
I've no idea, and if you have could you also check to see how many of the state run hospitals are burdened with onerous PFI contracts, dodgy sub contractors doing sub standard work for the lowest bid and paying fortunes to private agencies for the temporary hire of medical staff after the NHS's own ability to recruit these people was abandoned. :)
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Jan 9 2015, 08:01 PM
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Jan 9 2015, 07:54 PM
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Jan 9 2015, 07:34 PM

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Not the point, we were told and some on here keep telling us that private and for profit is invariably better.

This is clearly bollocks.
As is your comment, answer my question please.
I've no idea, and if you have could you also check to see how many of the state run hospitals are burdened with onerous PFI contracts, dodgy sub contractors doing sub standard work for the lowest bid and paying fortunes to private agencies for the temporary hire of medical staff after the NHS's own ability to recruit these people was abandoned. :)

I believe I recognise Rich (another forum) and he is an embarrassment there too.
From experience, he is best ignored as it would be a first for him if he ever retracted a BS statement.

The point this time is that the Privatised Hospital itself declares it cannot continue on such restricted funding ......... and yet the NHS facilities are expected to. In this case Privatisation has not been a saviour, has not restored efficiency, and even with no doubt selective (cherry picked) specialisations cannot hold its head above water.



Edited by Affa, Jan 10 2015, 12:43 AM.
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