FI and the thirty year rule.

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FI and the thirty year rule.
Topic Started: Dec 30 2014, 06:17 PM (101 Views)
Affa	Dec 30 2014, 06:17 PM Post #1
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	I read in the Times today a number of reports of papers released under the thirty year rule ...... And there wasn't much to get excited about at all ....... nothing at all controversial imo, except perhaps Mrs Thatcher's desire to curb what she saw as the critical elements (of her policies) from the BBC. Much like today, the Tories don't like criticism and their response as always is to censure it. Has anyone else seen or heard of any new releases - thus far I find it silly to imagine why these papers were kept hidden. There must be lots more that remain secret that could stir up a hornets nest. Documents do go missing, get lost, vanish, as we now know from the paedophile ring and evidence that can no longer be traced.



Che Frederick	Dec 30 2014, 06:23 PM Post #2
Junior Member Posts: 32 Group: Members Member #115 Joined: Dec 30, 2014	Don't you have a nagging feeling that some papers don't get released even after 30 years? Swept under the rug to be forgotten by history...



papasmurf	Dec 30 2014, 06:33 PM Post #3
Senior Member Posts: 17,280 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Affa Dec 30 2014, 06:17 PM Has anyone else seen or heard of any new releases - You can do your own search of the archives:- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cabinetpapers/cabinet-gov/meetings-papers.htm



Affa	Dec 30 2014, 06:34 PM Post #4
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	"Not in the Public Interest" excuse never fails.



papasmurf	Dec 30 2014, 06:41 PM Post #5
Senior Member Posts: 17,280 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	Che Frederick Dec 30 2014, 06:23 PM Don't you have a nagging feeling that some papers don't get released even after 30 years? Swept under the rug to be forgotten by history... No nagging feeling needed:- Bottom of page 9 onwards, details exemptions to Freedom Of Information requests:- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/access-to-public-records.pdf



Che Frederick	Dec 30 2014, 07:16 PM Post #6
Junior Member Posts: 32 Group: Members Member #115 Joined: Dec 30, 2014	papasmurf Dec 30 2014, 06:41 PM Che Frederick Dec 30 2014, 06:23 PM Don't you have a nagging feeling that some papers don't get released even after 30 years? Swept under the rug to be forgotten by history... No nagging feeling needed:- Bottom of page 9 onwards, details exemptions to Freedom Of Information requests:- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/access-to-public-records.pdf So they can cover their tracks. All-righty then.



Tigger	Dec 30 2014, 07:19 PM Post #7
Senior Member Posts: 20,106 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: Jun 27, 2014	A shame I probably won't be around when some of those papers that are covered by a hundred year rule are released, I was rather looking forward to why a lot of cabinet correspondence from 1940 was held back after being earmarked for release.



Affa	Dec 30 2014, 08:35 PM Post #8
Senior Member Posts: 11,999 Group: Members Member #58 Joined: Jul 26, 2014	papasmurf Dec 30 2014, 06:41 PM Che Frederick Dec 30 2014, 06:23 PM Don't you have a nagging feeling that some papers don't get released even after 30 years? Swept under the rug to be forgotten by history... No nagging feeling needed:- Bottom of page 9 onwards, details exemptions to Freedom Of Information requests:- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/access-to-public-records.pdf From 29 onwards, starting at 'economy', I can see no reason at all why the thirty year none exemption is not allowed to apply. How can thirty year old policy decisions on the economy jeopardise either National security or International relations? The Public are INTERESTED.



ranger121	Dec 30 2014, 08:52 PM Post #9
Administrator Posts: 3,806 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jun 26, 2014	Nobody ever heard of "redaction"? If "they" don't want it out, with names named, it won't happen.



ranger121	Dec 30 2014, 08:56 PM Post #10
Administrator Posts: 3,806 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jun 26, 2014	Affa Dec 30 2014, 08:35 PM From 29 onwards, starting at 'economy', I can see no reason at all why the thirty year none exemption is not allowed to apply. How can thirty year old policy decisions on the economy jeopardise either National security or International relations? Because it gives the person who screwed up time to die, so it won't matter, and the public can't have a Formosus moment.



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