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| Movie - Cleanskin; A UK film that focuses on Home Grown Terrorists. | |
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| Topic Started: May 3 2015, 09:16 PM (242 Views) | |
| Affa | May 3 2015, 09:16 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1598873/ I'm barely half way through watching it but broke off because I wanted to draw attention to it here. Highway I guess will enjoy it too. It portrays both how young Muslims can be radicalised, and reveals how being a Muslim is at odds with our culture. Apart from that is has Sean Bean as the lead tasked with tracking down a terrorist cell .... so an action movie. I'm off back for the second half ......... cu. Not a waste of time, I'd rate it 6 - 10 as these movies go. Jason Statham might have been a better lead. That's not to rubbish Sean Bean but he's getting past it these days. Edited by Affa, May 4 2015, 12:01 AM.
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| Deleted User | May 4 2015, 06:21 PM Post #2 |
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Christianity is ( if it is practised according to the NT) is at odds with our ' culture' ( which is pretty much secular) . The difference is that , over time, Christianity has been browbeaten into diluting or abandoning some of its core ethics. Maybe the film shows how western foreign policy has shaped and focused the increase of Muslim radicalisation not only in the UK but the whole world...maybe not. Enjoy your film. If you are lucky you may get lots of dead muzzies and a some bare tits. |
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| Affa | May 4 2015, 07:37 PM Post #3 |
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Well it did present quite a few fatalities, and some exposed breasts, and much more too. Muslim radicalisation in the UK is not a fault of our culture, but the failure of Muslims in the UK to integrate with it. To my mind it begs the question of whether any Muslim that is unable to integrate into British society should remain here. The film explores this problem, reveals how grooming enhances this alienation, how they establish that "we are not like them". Our culture permits that all faiths are tolerated (when within the law), Muslims do not tolerate or give equal (civil) status to members of other faiths. |
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| Marconi | May 5 2015, 06:48 AM Post #4 |
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I saw that film a little while back. Very good and throws up many questions. If you liked that then I recommend 'The Veteran' starring Tony Kebbell, and how lines are blurred on who are the good and bad guys, and who can benefit from a constant war. |
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| Affa | May 5 2015, 12:08 PM Post #5 |
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What I realise, and am a bit surprised it hadn't registered before, is that movies (drama - books) can very often say what no other media is able to say - or won't. Under the guise of fiction it is nevertheless able to examine society in a way that would otherwise never be tolerated by the Establishment. I absolutely love Robert Ludlum, read all his books, and the Bourne trilogy is a fine example of his work (though dated now). More than anything else it is his exposure of how the political Establishment works primarily to secure its own survival and continuation. |
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| Marconi | May 5 2015, 09:07 PM Post #6 |
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Definitely something in that. Look at 80's pop culture. During the Reagan/Thatcher years the creators of Dredd honestly believed that a fascistic future was on the cards, The Clash thought a civil war was coming ('English Civil War'). Even Batman was turned into a right-wing fascist (read 'The Dark Knight Returns'). In the case of Dredd, it's uncanny that nearly every police force in the world now dress their coppers up like paramilitary stormtroopers. |
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| Steve K | May 6 2015, 07:05 PM Post #7 |
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Yes I never realised that warp speed travel was possible until I saw Star Trek, that it was the Americans and not the Brits that captured the Enigma machine until that U-571 film was released and I was clearly mistaken not realising that Robin Hood was a yank until Kevin Costner corrected me. Be very careful drawing real life conclusions from films made by people with an agenda, they just love suckering people into believing stuff. |
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| Affa | May 7 2015, 05:50 PM Post #8 |
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LOL ...... That film was mild, much less accusative, than most expressed comments regarding the grooming of and radicalisation of young British Muslims. It had a more serious message regarding the 'criminal' behaviour of UK security forces. Abu Hamza it wasn't! Yet it did not hide that British Muslims can readily be persuaded to take actions against British society ........ and murder. |
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| Happy Hornet | May 9 2015, 08:27 AM Post #9 |
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Ultimately we are all solely responsible for our own actions. This applies to Muslims and non-Muslims alike. British society or government are not responsible for acts of terrorism carried out by Islamic extremists, the individuals who carry out these vile atrocities are solely responsible for their own actions. Then are those who facilitate these acts, the radical muslim hate preachers who recruit these psychopaths to their "cause" and the non-Muslims who preach hatred against all muslins thus making the job of Islamic extremist recruiters much easier. A pox on all their houses. |
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| Affa | Jul 7 2015, 04:49 PM Post #10 |
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Personally; I reject the notion that a practicing Muslim living here, born here, can ever be considered as being British! Being British in the sense that they could never consider this country as being their spiritual homeland. |
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| RoofGardener | Jul 7 2015, 07:58 PM Post #11 |
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Indeed... nor handheld communications devices. Oh... wait..
Actually, I beleive it was the Poles originally ? They snuck an early (but operational) version out of Poland ? (a single-ring Diplomatic/Werhmacht version, as opposed to the later 3-ring Naval variant)
I watched that film in an Cinema in Nottingham. The audience where rolling in the aisles with laughter.... [/quote] |
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| Affa | Jul 8 2015, 10:34 AM Post #12 |
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[/quote] I believe I read (or saw on TV) where Loxley was in fact from South Yorkshire, Sheffield. |
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| HIGHWAY | Jul 11 2015, 07:07 PM Post #13 |
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[/quote]The castle in that Kevin Costner Robin Hood movie is in Carcassonne France,not quite a British version,but there was one or two British actors in it |
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