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Labour needs a female to lead them?
Topic Started: Aug 25 2015, 06:06 PM (413 Views)
RJD
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Burnham thinks the time is not yet right, but if Corbyn can from nowhere get so much support then why not a Tower Hamlets Totty?

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Aug 28 2015, 07:20 AM
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Aug 27 2015, 05:14 PM
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Aug 27 2015, 05:08 PM

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But did you work? If you did then reveal what you were engaged with? Were you a Printer? Or perhaps you were one of those that padded out the ranks of the much overmanned nationalised industries? Did Thatcher shake up your cosy existence and galvanise Managers to demand a fair days work for a fair days pay?

At that point in time, I was a boilerman operating coal fired, (mainly), steam boilers.
Who employed you?
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Aug 27 2015, 01:10 PM
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Aug 27 2015, 12:30 PM
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Aug 27 2015, 07:47 AM

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We see a lot of ''Marmite' attitudes on this board. Thatcher changed the country for the better and has made us all better off in the longer term. IMO You have to have lived through what went before to understand the need for her policies and the improvements she made in industrial relations. A look at graphs on strikes and days lost before and after tells its own story.
Such graphs would certainly tell a story, but they would NOT tell the full story.

Incidentally I agree that Thatcher inherited a bad situation and I for one am glad she outlawed wild cat strikes. Unfortunately her right-wing ideological approach missed a great opportunity to put the UK on a really good path, and has ended up doing a lot of damage to the UK. Putting so many of our eggs into the financial services basket could be said to have laid down the foundations for our susceptibility to the international financial meltdown.
Bad situation? It was a national disaster with every nationalised industry overmanned, subsidised and making products, that increasingly nobody wished to purchase. Privatising those basket cases was the best thing she ever did. There is no evidence anywhere that indicates that those industries owned and controlled by the State would ever be other than a massive burden holding back the UK economy. Clearly those with strong feelings against the Lady are free to substantiate their claims. Otherwise usual ignorant sour grapes from the Usuals who cannot swallow the fact that it took a woman to do what their men failed to tackle decisively. Anyone today who thinks that returning the Railways and Utilities to State control is ignorant and in my view p[lain bonkers. The problem with the railways is fundamentally with the "not for profit" quasi-natiuonalised NetworkRail. Be warned. Mind you lefties do not give a sh1t whether such industries need heavy subsidies as long as you take it out of the pockets of those filthy rich bastards.








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Aug 28 2015, 04:41 PM
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Such graphs would certainly tell a story, but they would NOT tell the full story.

Incidentally I agree that Thatcher inherited a bad situation and I for one am glad she outlawed wild cat strikes. Unfortunately her right-wing ideological approach missed a great opportunity to put the UK on a really good path, and has ended up doing a lot of damage to the UK. Putting so many of our eggs into the financial services basket could be said to have laid down the foundations for our susceptibility to the international financial meltdown.
Bad situation? It was a national disaster with every nationalised industry overmanned, subsidised and making products, that increasingly nobody wished to purchase. Privatising those basket cases was the best thing she ever did. There is no evidence anywhere that indicates that those industries owned and controlled by the State would ever be other than a massive burden holding back the UK economy. Clearly those with strong feelings against the Lady are free to substantiate their claims. Otherwise usual ignorant sour grapes from the Usuals who cannot swallow the fact that it took a woman to do what their men failed to tackle decisively. Anyone today who thinks that returning the Railways and Utilities to State control is ignorant and in my view p[lain bonkers. The problem with the railways is fundamentally with the "not for profit" quasi-natiuonalised NetworkRail. Be warned. Mind you lefties do not give a sh1t whether such industries need heavy subsidies as long as you take it out of the pockets of those filthy rich bastards.









Nationalised Industries and Services performed badly because they were managed badly by their owners ....... which predominantly was Conservative governments that are ideologically opposed to Nationalisation and had no intention of making them a success.
It was tantamount to putting paedophiles in charge of schools ...... a recipe for disaster.

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Aug 28 2015, 04:31 PM
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At that point in time, I was a boilerman operating coal fired, (mainly), steam boilers.
Who employed you?
What's this; the fucking Spanish inquisition. I don't ask personal details about your work history. I don't ask who you worked for, when, how long, what did you earn, how long were tea breaks. I have no intention of giving a detailed history of my life to the likes of you, so give it a rest eh?
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Aug 29 2015, 06:27 AM
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Who employed you?
What's this; the fucking Spanish inquisition. I don't ask personal details about your work history. I don't ask who you worked for, when, how long, what did you earn, how long were tea breaks. I have no intention of giving a detailed history of my life to the likes of you, so give it a rest eh?
Thought so. The answer would be embarrassing.

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Labour needs anyone to lead them until David Miliband makes a re-appearance..
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Affa
Aug 28 2015, 06:02 PM
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Aug 28 2015, 04:41 PM
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Bad situation? It was a national disaster with every nationalised industry overmanned, subsidised and making products, that increasingly nobody wished to purchase. Privatising those basket cases was the best thing she ever did. There is no evidence anywhere that indicates that those industries owned and controlled by the State would ever be other than a massive burden holding back the UK economy. Clearly those with strong feelings against the Lady are free to substantiate their claims. Otherwise usual ignorant sour grapes from the Usuals who cannot swallow the fact that it took a woman to do what their men failed to tackle decisively. Anyone today who thinks that returning the Railways and Utilities to State control is ignorant and in my view p[lain bonkers. The problem with the railways is fundamentally with the "not for profit" quasi-natiuonalised NetworkRail. Be warned. Mind you lefties do not give a sh1t whether such industries need heavy subsidies as long as you take it out of the pockets of those filthy rich bastards.









Nationalised Industries and Services performed badly because they were managed badly by their owners ....... which predominantly was Conservative governments that are ideologically opposed to Nationalisation and had no intention of making them a success.
It was tantamount to putting paedophiles in charge of schools ...... a recipe for disaster.

Just more self deception Affa.
All the utilities and services have improved in supply and quality and in infrastructure by a big margin since privatisation.
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What's this; the fucking Spanish inquisition. I don't ask personal details about your work history. I don't ask who you worked for, when, how long, what did you earn, how long were tea breaks. I have no intention of giving a detailed history of my life to the likes of you, so give it a rest eh?
Thought so. The answer would be embarrassing.

Why would working for a living be embarrassing. Fool.
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Aug 29 2015, 06:27 AM
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Who employed you?
What's this; the fucking Spanish inquisition. I don't ask personal details about your work history. I don't ask who you worked for, when, how long, what did you earn, how long were tea breaks. I have no intention of giving a detailed history of my life to the likes of you, so give it a rest eh?
Perhaps RJD has never read rule 6.

It is plain common sense not to give away details that could allow someone to identify you.
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Aug 30 2015, 06:23 AM
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Thought so. The answer would be embarrassing.

Why would working for a living be embarrassing. Fool.
Nice side-step but you fool nobody.
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Aug 30 2015, 10:07 AM
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What's this; the fucking Spanish inquisition. I don't ask personal details about your work history. I don't ask who you worked for, when, how long, what did you earn, how long were tea breaks. I have no intention of giving a detailed history of my life to the likes of you, so give it a rest eh?
Perhaps RJD has never read rule 6.

It is plain common sense not to give away details that could allow someone to identify you.
Good job I did not do that then! I have no interest in his or anyone's personal information and indicating the sector of employment would not allow me to determine such. Despite popular belief I do not own a crystal ball.

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Aug 30 2015, 01:16 PM
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Aug 30 2015, 10:07 AM
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Perhaps RJD has never read rule 6.

It is plain common sense not to give away details that could allow someone to identify you.
Good job I did not do that then! I have no interest in his or anyone's personal information and indicating the sector of employment would not allow me to determine such. Despite popular belief I do not own a crystal ball.

Come off it Torquemada. You were fishing, but the bait wasn't disguised cunningly enough. When you catch a weasel asleep, piss in it's ear hole. Firstly you asked if I was employed at a certain time. I told you yes. You then asked what job I did. I told you. Then you wanted to delve even further. When was your curiosity going to be satisfied? What I told you was quite enough information for the question.
Edited by disgruntled porker, Aug 30 2015, 01:42 PM.
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