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UN launches investigation into 'grave' violations of disabled people's human rights over welfare ref
Topic Started: Aug 31 2015, 12:46 AM (227 Views)
Jonksy
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UN launches investigation into 'grave' violations of disabled people's human rights over welfare reforms

UNITED Nations officials will visit the UK in the next few months to investigate whether Iain Duncan Smith’s welfare reforms have led to “grave or systematic violations” of disabled people’s human rights, the Sunday Herald can reveal.

A formal investigation has already been launched by the UN’s Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. UN investigations are conducted confidentially, but a leading Scottish disability charity has told the Sunday Herald it has been advised a visit by the Special Rapporteur and members of the committee on the rights of persons with disabilities is expected in the “near future”.

Only last week, Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith unveiled plans to launch a fresh attack on sickness benefit. He outlined aims to get one million people off the Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) disability benefit, claiming too many people with “common” mental health conditions are reliant on the state.

The SNP will today attack the “callous” plans, saying new statistics show this will affect nearly half - 43% - of all disabled people currently claiming ESA.
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Shocking statistics published by the DWP last week showed thousands of people have died after being declared “fit for work”. The figures, which did not detail the cause of the deaths, revealed that 2,380 people died between December 2011 and February 2014 after a work capability assessment (WCA) found them fit for work.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13635161.UN_launches_investigation_into__grave__violations_of_disabled_people_s_human_rights_over_welfare_reforms/
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Always best to start the study in those places with among the best records on the Planet, moving down the ranks to those that just don't give a damn. Once they have been to the UK they then will have a Benchmark a Yardstick with which they can judge others.
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English jingoism will come to the aid of The Quiet Man by dismissing an investigation into the violation of human rights of disabled people in Britain as unwelcome interference by foreigners into the affairs of the Big Society.
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As likely a validation exercise, one wanted by the Tories, and prepared to quieten upsets over what is undoubtedly true - IDS's reforms have been massively damaging ........ and for what? A few £ml in savings ... less than what has been lost by cutting corporation tax.
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Affa
Aug 31 2015, 08:15 AM
As likely a validation exercise, one wanted by the Tories, and prepared to quieten upsets over what is undoubtedly true - IDS's reforms have been massively damaging ........ and for what? A few £ml in savings ... less than what has been lost by cutting corporation tax.
And of course a lot less than what the wasters are giving away in foreign aid...The tories think more of the third world dross than they do of the their own countrymen/women.
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Jonksy
Aug 31 2015, 08:32 AM
Affa
Aug 31 2015, 08:15 AM
As likely a validation exercise, one wanted by the Tories, and prepared to quieten upsets over what is undoubtedly true - IDS's reforms have been massively damaging ........ and for what? A few £ml in savings ... less than what has been lost by cutting corporation tax.
And of course a lot less than what the wasters are giving away in foreign aid...The tories think more of the third world dross than they do of the their own countrymen/women.
Yes the UK has much better support for the disabled than third world countries like Somalia.

Perhaps the UN should focus on those countries instead.
Edited by AndyK, Aug 31 2015, 11:49 AM.
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RJD
Aug 31 2015, 06:55 AM
Always best to start the study in those places with among the best records on the Planet, moving down the ranks to those that just don't give a damn. Once they have been to the UK they then will have a Benchmark a Yardstick with which they can judge others.
Poor logic!
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marybrown
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What's even funnier is that the human rights lawyer is Costa Rican..

http://www.ticotimes.net/2014/02/28/prison-overcrowding-human-trafficking-among-costa-ricas-top-human-rights-concerns-says-u-s-state-department


Other members of the committee include representatives from Uganda..Kenya.. Tunisia..and Thailand..

Maybe they should start nearer to home.. ;-)
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Aug 31 2015, 07:05 AM
English jingoism will come to the aid of The Quiet Man by dismissing an investigation into the violation of human rights of disabled people in Britain as unwelcome interference by foreigners into the affairs of the Big Society.
Not at all we welcome all and sundry to examine the regulations as long as they do so and then compare with that available elsewhere. But politically motivated UK haters are unwelcome.

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Aug 31 2015, 12:24 PM
What's even funnier is that the human rights lawyer is Costa Rican..

http://www.ticotimes.net/2014/02/28/prison-overcrowding-human-trafficking-among-costa-ricas-top-human-rights-concerns-says-u-s-state-department


Other members of the committee include representatives from Uganda..Kenya.. Tunisia..and Thailand..

Maybe they should start nearer to home.. ;-)
Why? Let them come to the UK and then wonder how they can get all those countries that do not meet our high standards to do better. The UK, relatively speaking, is a very generous country towards those it judges are in need and therefore should not feel itself slighted in any way.

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I mentioned probable validation, and most suspect it so as I do ....... but still miss
the point that the exercise itself has an ulterior motive. That motive is not to force
this government to change, improve, or reverse its policies towards the sick and
disabled, but in fact to ratify them.
All for political motivations and to sweep objections aside.

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RJD
Aug 31 2015, 01:08 PM
marybrown
Aug 31 2015, 12:24 PM
What's even funnier is that the human rights lawyer is Costa Rican..

http://www.ticotimes.net/2014/02/28/prison-overcrowding-human-trafficking-among-costa-ricas-top-human-rights-concerns-says-u-s-state-department


Other members of the committee include representatives from Uganda..Kenya.. Tunisia..and Thailand..

Maybe they should start nearer to home.. ;-)
Why? Let them come to the UK and then wonder how they can get all those countries that do not meet our high standards to do better. The UK, relatively speaking, is a very generous country towards those it judges are in need and therefore should not feel itself slighted in any way.

The Tory right wing extremists have eroded the notion of fairness and looking after those who have fallen on hard times. Not generous at all any more!
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Aug 31 2015, 01:05 PM
No very good logic. One has to have a Yardstick unless one makes judgements in a vacuum. You know all about empty spaces, vacuums and vacuousness don't you Tig.?
Yes I do, I experience both an intellectual and moral vacuum every time I enter into debate with you!

But that's enough about you back to the op, causing unnecessary suffering is against the law as the UN rightly points out, and as we are signatories to this organisation and are bound to it we are supposed to follow it's code of conduct, and that I'm afraid is the "Yardstick" by which we are being judged.
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Aug 31 2015, 02:42 PM
What.BS claim. Nothing worthy of anything, besides which you don't even have a degree in anything, not even media studies it would seem!
I think you are being unfair to RJD. All opinions have a place in a debate forum, including those Tory Party Central Office. We can disagree without denigrating other members, Lewis.
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Aug 31 2015, 02:57 PM
Lewis
Aug 31 2015, 02:42 PM
What.BS claim. Nothing worthy of anything, besides which you don't even have a degree in anything, not even media studies it would seem!
I think you are being unfair to RJD. All opinions have a place in a debate forum, including those Tory Party Central Office. We can disagree without denigrating other members, Lewis.
Yes agreed mustn't upset the Tory Central Office drones.
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The Tory government has a job to do..and that is to stop allegedly ''handicapped people'' from getting benefits..when most of them are quite capable of working..

A lot of people appear to be quite bitter and twisted..

I have seen these people..taking the piss..

They've upset the boat..
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Aug 31 2015, 11:49 AM
Jonksy
Aug 31 2015, 08:32 AM
Affa
Aug 31 2015, 08:15 AM
As likely a validation exercise, one wanted by the Tories, and prepared to quieten upsets over what is undoubtedly true - IDS's reforms have been massively damaging ........ and for what? A few £ml in savings ... less than what has been lost by cutting corporation tax.
And of course a lot less than what the wasters are giving away in foreign aid...The tories think more of the third world dross than they do of the their own countrymen/women.
Yes the UK has much better support for the disabled than third world countries like Somalia.

Perhaps the UN should focus on those countries instead.
Yes they drop the benefits on our injured servicemen/women once thy learn to hobble a hundred yards..Funny enough even the third world countries do not inflict that on their injured military..
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Given that this thread is now nothing but the usual exchanges of blows, I think I'll lock the thread, trash anything that looks like a rule 3 breach and then decide where to bin the rest ...
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