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Labour Leadership Contest; merged thread
Topic Started: May 15 2015, 01:02 PM (2,199 Views)
Tytoalba
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Chuka Umunna withdraws Labour leader bid, Who is left to lead them? The BBC has been attacking UKIP and Farrage for days, but at least they have a leader. Labour are in a state of uncertainty, and we do need a good opposition in the HOC,
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disgruntled porker
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gansao
Sep 12 2015, 11:52 PM
Going back to the OP.
I have witnessed a troubling development in a particular manufacturing company recently.
The company in question was turned into an Employee ownership trust recently. There has been and will not be any advantage to the employees of this particular company in it being an Employee ownership trust however..this is quite clear.
The company in question has relied on casual labour through a series of employment agencies in the past but has had a core of regular employees some skilled some not so skilled and some unskilled.

The company is now creating an internal 'employment agency'. Their attitude towards their staff is illustrated by the quasi agency using the company canteen to interview prospective workers and getting them to fill in forms and generally hang around during the lunch time( lunch time consists of 20 minutes away from the noisy factory) this is the only break allowed to both agency workers and the regular workers who ( in theory) partly own the company.
Now the internal agency can and will produce workers permanently on zero hour contracts that are maginalised from being ' owners'( or more importantly full employees) because they are effectively sub contractors.
This is the brave new world for the future young, non existent job security and permanent minimum wages. There is no guarantee that a sub contracted young person could or would not be fully trained by the company and still be working on a zero hours contract and STILL be on minimum wage.

So to simplify my point ..ordinary people will continue to race to the bottom on wages and job security with both the Tories and NL.
I've seen how you do it and if the idiots running this particular company can do it , anyone can.

If you really want this Tory/Tory lite future for your kids or anyone elses kids then f&ck you and lets look at what Corbyn can do.
Complacent old farts ,xenophobics and the fearful of having to pay a bit more taxes should not be allowed to commit working people into both the old days of working poor and into the brave new world of neo liberalism.
The Tories and their greedy scum bag followers actively encourage this and New Labour would not have the balls or gumption change it...so this is the future ...if we allow it.
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The election of Corbyn wasn't a shock, but the margin of the win was. It displayed a sea change within the membership of the Labour party. If this translates into a similar change of thinking in the general public, then the next election could be an eye opener. NL turned out to offer nothing much different than the Tories. The whole concept about opposition is to offer something different, not something similar. When the fact that something different is now on offer sinks in, we may be surprised at what Joe Public comes up with. Of course, we have to rely on the majority of Joe Public realising that they are not getting a fair crack of the whip. That is the stumbling block. Getting rid of the "I'm alright Jack" and "me, me me" mentality may be irreversible.
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