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Our "People's" PMQs; what would we have asked
Topic Started: Sep 17 2015, 04:57 PM (678 Views)
Steve K
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(This may work or fall flat on its face - whatever)

what question would any of us have Corbyn ask Cameron?

And is anyone bold enough to try to answer any? I suggest best if one question per post.
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Tough because even if you 'win' ie matt baker's "how on earth do you sleep at night", his irritating smug self-fooling resolve remains and he'll try to turn your question into some kind of bloody QI style psuedoanalysis. Then you'd just want to punch him. ;D
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OK I'll start

Prime Minister you have placed great store on what you tell us is your government's financial sound policies. Seeing as within weeks of the General Election you had to renege on a manifesto commitment on capping care fees because your chancellor hadn't done his sums, is it not right that he should be dismissed and the electorate given a new election based on promises you have actually thought through?
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I'm interested in the bigger picture and the economic basics.

What do you intend to do with the national debt which you have virtually doubled in five years and how many props will you use on the housing market before economic reality finally kicks in and wrecks the economy yet again?
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What's your favourite colour?
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Sep 18 2015, 08:59 AM
What's your favourite colour?
Do I detect a Bridge of Death theme there? Posted Image
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Prime Minister; when it is clear that on most all data analysis the fact is that the poorest in society have carried the burden of austerity far more than the wealthiest, who have not suffered the reduction in living standards of the average wage earner, can you still claim that "we are all in it together"?
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:thumbsup: I think that's a third question he'd have trouble answering
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Sep 18 2015, 11:56 AM
:thumbsup: I think that's a third question he'd have trouble answering
All good questions but surely if you imagine his response..it'd be a dismissal using lies, fast talk and "we've done this to.." or "we haven't got round to .. yet".

That's why it seems better to assert your gripe with him and be done with it. Like that guy with a disabled kid did in 2010.
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how about "Why is QE good for the banks but bad for the people?" (Fight soundbites with soundbites...I am developing an obsession with QE)
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Sep 17 2015, 04:57 PM
(This may work or fall flat on its face - whatever)

what question would any of us have Corbyn ask Cameron?

And is anyone bold enough to try to answer any? I suggest best if one question per post.
I would prefer if Corbyn asked his own question without having it given to him by anyone. He did well doing so during the leadership campaign, and I see no reason why he would not do as well without someone else telling him what to say.

Note I am still not prepared to form any opinions on Corbyn at this time. He has only been the leader of Labour party for very short time, and he clearly possesses a great deal of hostility towards him as leader from his own Labour MPs.
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Note I am still not prepared to form any opinions on Corbyn at this time.
Neither I am, the beasting of Corbyn by the Media/Press got Corbyn elected because of the backlash against it, so now the media, press, and the Tory party will have to live with the emergent property of their own actions.
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Sep 18 2015, 12:55 PM
how about "Why is QE good for the banks but bad for the people?" (Fight soundbites with soundbites...I am developing an obsession with QE)
Well that one I may just take a pop at replying to as mock Cameron. But it'll be later, got to go out now
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Steve, with the greatest respect,
it's no good Corbyn asking any question if it allows Cameron to to give A political broadcast with no comeback, as what happened at the last PMQs fiasco. There was no debate he just auto-piloted on to another question, leaving viewers to believe Cameron's credibility.
Maybe next week with Tom Watson standing in For Corbyn, things might be more interesting.
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I'd be grateful Cammer's if you could explain the differences in general election voting requirements and those you propose for Union ballots for a strike. Two main points: Firstly the percentage requirement you are demanding for Unions and secondly the assumption that a non vote counts as a no. Can we apply these criteria to future GEs and if not why not? Not to do so stinks of rank hypocrisy.
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As promised earlier:
ACH1967
Sep 18 2015, 12:55 PM
how about "Why is QE good for the banks but bad for the people?" (Fight soundbites with soundbites...I am developing an obsession with QE)


[pretend Cameron mode]

As the honourable member knows, Quantitative Easing was a Bank of England initiative approved by the last Labour government to buy government bonds. 3 years ago the Bank said it must end, the limit had been reached not least because the government will have to buy those bonds back. As the house knows, the funds raised were in the main used to fund social spending commitments on welfare, health and education.

So when he says QE was bad for the people he is wrong. We have continued to borrow to fund social spending, we will continue to commit to support social spending but a sound economy is essential to fund this. We commit to a sound economy so we can continue to provide welfare where it is due, health services for all and education for our futures. Why do members opposite oppose that?


[/pretend Cameron mode]


over to ACH is he wants to ask a follow up.


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Re Steve's care cap comment:

We did make a commitment to cap the cost of care for the elderly, which is sorely needed after the mess Labour left for us. It is quite wrong that the elderly should have to sell their house just to make ends meet, we intend to end that. We are still firmly committed to this policy as reported by all media outlets recently. Let me tell you, we have done our work well, the economy is growing, our sums do add up. Perhaps the Rt Hon gent. would be kind enough to spell out his own plans for the economy? Printing more money certainly isn't going to help the elderly if our rconomy is in tatters!



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Sep 18 2015, 06:07 PM
Re Steve's care cap comment:

We did make a commitment to cap the cost of care for the elderly, which is sorely needed after the mess Labour left for us. It is quite wrong that the elderly should have to sell their house just to make ends meet, we intend to end that. We are still firmly committed to this policy as reported by all media outlets recently. Let me tell you, we have done our work well, the economy is growing, our sums do add up. Perhaps the Rt Hon gent. would be kind enough to spell out his own plans for the economy? Printing more money certainly isn't going to help the elderly if our rconomy is in tatters!



[pretend Corbyn mode]
Well perhaps the Prime Minister has forgotten the manifesto he and every member opposite stood on in May. I have a copy here Which part of "We will cap charges for residential social care from April 2016" did he not understand? Which part of the economy did his Chancellor not understand?

Will the Prime Minister admit that he knew the policy was not costed, that the promise was false and that each and every member opposite has been elected by dint of false instrument to win the so called grey vote. Will he now ask each and every one of those members to resign and call bi-elections where they will campaign honestly?

[/pretend Corbyn mode]
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Sep 18 2015, 06:53 PM
Ah we have a new pretend Cam
skwirked
Sep 18 2015, 06:07 PM
Re Steve's care cap comment:

We did make a commitment to cap the cost of care for the elderly, which is sorely needed after the mess Labour left for us. It is quite wrong that the elderly should have to sell their house just to make ends meet, we intend to end that. We are still firmly committed to this policy as reported by all media outlets recently. Let me tell you, we have done our work well, the economy is growing, our sums do add up. Perhaps the Rt Hon gent. would be kind enough to spell out his own plans for the economy? Printing more money certainly isn't going to help the elderly if our rconomy is in tatters!



[pretend Corbyn mode]
Well perhaps the Prime Minister has forgotten the manifesto he and every member opposite stood on in May. I have a copy here Which part of "We will cap charges for residential social care from April 2016" did he not understand? Which part of the economy did his Chancellor not understand?

Will the Prime Minister admit that he knew the policy was not costed, that the promise was false and that each and every member opposite has been elected by dint of false instrument to win the so called grey vote. Will he now ask each and every one of those members to resign and call bi-elections where they will campaign honestly?

[/pretend Corbyn mode]
Only if Labour promise to do the same, MPs voting against their own manifesto? Chaos?

Imagine what they'd be like in power, heaven forbid the electorate actually vote them in.
Thankfully the electorate have wised up to their tricks, we have moved on since 1979.

Our costed plans have returned the economy to growth, created more jobs, taken people out of unemployment.

As the late Baroness said: With Socialists, you spend other peoples money then the money runs out. *Irritating tough face*

"YEAAAA!
Aha!
EEEYEAH!"
Edited by skwirked, Sep 18 2015, 07:17 PM.
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Sep 18 2015, 07:12 PM
Steve K
Sep 18 2015, 06:53 PM
Ah we have a new pretend Cam
skwirked
Sep 18 2015, 06:07 PM
Re Steve's care cap comment:

We did make a commitment to cap the cost of care for the elderly, which is sorely needed after the mess Labour left for us. It is quite wrong that the elderly should have to sell their house just to make ends meet, we intend to end that. We are still firmly committed to this policy as reported by all media outlets recently. Let me tell you, we have done our work well, the economy is growing, our sums do add up. Perhaps the Rt Hon gent. would be kind enough to spell out his own plans for the economy? Printing more money certainly isn't going to help the elderly if our rconomy is in tatters!



[pretend Corbyn mode]
Well perhaps the Prime Minister has forgotten the manifesto he and every member opposite stood on in May. I have a copy here Which part of "We will cap charges for residential social care from April 2016" did he not understand? Which part of the economy did his Chancellor not understand?

Will the Prime Minister admit that he knew the policy was not costed, that the promise was false and that each and every member opposite has been elected by dint of false instrument to win the so called grey vote. Will he now ask each and every one of those members to resign and call bi-elections where they will campaign honestly?

[/pretend Corbyn mode]
Only if Labour promise to do the same, MPs voting against their own manifesto? Chaos?

Imagine what they'd be like in power, heaven forbid the electorate actually vote them in.
Thankfully the electorate have wised up to their tricks, we have moved on since 1979.

Our costed plans have returned the economy to growth, created more jobs, taken people out of unemployment.

As the late Baroness said: With Socialists, you spend other peoples money then the money runs out. *Irritating tough face*

"YEAAAA!
Aha!
EEEYEAH!"
We have certainly moved on since the right-wing lies and deceptions of 1979.

With Toryism workers get the wealth created by their efforts and innovations spent for them by others.
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Not to be rude but..Why not try and answer or ask a question Ctoo, we know perfectly well how you feel about Corbyn and the Tories.
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Sep 18 2015, 07:12 PM
Steve K
Sep 18 2015, 06:53 PM
Ah we have a new pretend Cam
skwirked
Sep 18 2015, 06:07 PM
Re Steve's care cap comment:

We did make a commitment to cap the cost of care for the elderly, which is sorely needed after the mess Labour left for us. It is quite wrong that the elderly should have to sell their house just to make ends meet, we intend to end that. We are still firmly committed to this policy as reported by all media outlets recently. Let me tell you, we have done our work well, the economy is growing, our sums do add up. Perhaps the Rt Hon gent. would be kind enough to spell out his own plans for the economy? Printing more money certainly isn't going to help the elderly if our rconomy is in tatters!



[pretend Corbyn mode]
Well perhaps the Prime Minister has forgotten the manifesto he and every member opposite stood on in May. I have a copy here Which part of "We will cap charges for residential social care from April 2016" did he not understand? Which part of the economy did his Chancellor not understand?

Will the Prime Minister admit that he knew the policy was not costed, that the promise was false and that each and every member opposite has been elected by dint of false instrument to win the so called grey vote. Will he now ask each and every one of those members to resign and call bi-elections where they will campaign honestly?

[/pretend Corbyn mode]
Only if Labour promise to do the same, MPs voting against their own manifesto? Chaos?

Imagine what they'd be like in power, heaven forbid the electorate actually vote them in.
Thankfully the electorate have wised up to their tricks, we have moved on since 1979.

Our costed plans have returned the economy to growth, created more jobs, taken people out of unemployment.

As the late Baroness said: With Socialists, you spend other peoples money then the money runs out. *Irritating tough face*

"YEAAAA!
Aha!
EEEYEAH!"
[pretend Corbyn mode]

Thank you Prime Minister for not only confirming that you did win an election by false instrument, that you misled the house with promises of orderly PMQ and that you cannot be trusted. Perhaps yu could inform the house which is the next election promise you will break?

[/pretend Corbyn mode]
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Sep 18 2015, 07:32 PM
Not to be rude but..Why not try and answer or ask a question Ctoo, we know perfectly well how you feel about Corbyn and the Tories.
A question or two ? How can Corbyn claim to be his own man and then claim to be an inclusive leader ? Is he a socialist or is he going to be influenced by the more centrist members of the party ?
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If anyone has proven that they cannot be trusted, it's labour.


And not just on the economy either.

After losing an election on false pretext, lying to the British public that they were going to fix the economy, They've elected a foot in mouth-esque leader mark II.

Mr Speaker, the right hon gent has rebelled against his party more times than any other MP.

Breaking trust with his constituents and getting homself voted in on false pretexts. How is he going to rebel against his own party as its leader?

Typical Labour, a typical labour leader and an informed electorate who want nothing to do with his class war politics.
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Sep 18 2015, 07:41 PM
If anyone has proven that they cannot be trusted, it's labour.


And not just on the economy either.

After losing an election on false pretext, lying to the British public that they were going to fix the economy, They've elected a foot in mouth-esque leader mark II.

Mr Speaker, the right hon gent has rebelled against his party more times than any other MP.

Breaking trust with his constituents and getting homself voted in on false pretexts. How is he going to rebel against his own party as its leader?

Typical Labour, a typical labour leader and an informed electorate who want nothing to do with his class war politics.
Your first claim is simply wrong.

The 2010 election was lost even though the economy showed a 1.4% growth.
The 2015 election was lost by a no mark put in place by leftist unions.
The 2020 election will be lost (if Corbin remains as leader) because Labour will be being led by a member of the magic wand brigade.

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As promised earlier:
ACH1967
Sep 18 2015, 12:55 PM
how about "Why is QE good for the banks but bad for the people?" (Fight soundbites with soundbites...I am developing an obsession with QE)


[pretend Cameron mode]

As the honourable member knows, Quantitative Easing was a Bank of England initiative approved by the last Labour government to buy government bonds. 3 years ago the Bank said it must end, the limit had been reached not least because the government will have to buy those bonds back. As the house knows, the funds raised were in the main used to fund social spending commitments on welfare, health and education.

So when he says QE was bad for the people he is wrong. We have continued to borrow to fund social spending, we will continue to commit to support social spending but a sound economy is essential to fund this. We commit to a sound economy so we can continue to provide welfare where it is due, health services for all and education for our futures. Why do members opposite oppose that?


[/pretend Cameron mode]


over to ACH is he wants to ask a follow up.


Given your response was in 'pretend Cameron mode' I'm assuming the content of your post was designed to highlight Cammer's propensity to bullshit, as the statements within it concerning QE in the UK were blatantly factually incorrect.
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Sep 18 2015, 07:47 PM
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Sep 18 2015, 07:41 PM
If anyone has proven that they cannot be trusted, it's labour.


And not just on the economy either.

After losing an election on false pretext, lying to the British public that they were going to fix the economy, They've elected a foot in mouth-esque leader mark II.

Mr Speaker, the right hon gent has rebelled against his party more times than any other MP.

Breaking trust with his constituents and getting homself voted in on false pretexts. How is he going to rebel against his own party as its leader?

Typical Labour, a typical labour leader and an informed electorate who want nothing to do with his class war politics.
Your first claim is simply wrong.

The 2010 election was lost even though the economy showed a 1.4% growth.
The 2015 election was lost by a no mark put in place by leftist unions.
The 2020 election will be lost (if Corbin remains as leader) because Labour will be being led by a member of the magic wand brigade.

 !bgrin! :facepalm:
Suggest you re-read OP, Cthu.
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Sep 18 2015, 05:54 PM
As promised earlier:
ACH1967
Sep 18 2015, 12:55 PM
how about "Why is QE good for the banks but bad for the people?" (Fight soundbites with soundbites...I am developing an obsession with QE)


[pretend Cameron mode]

As the honourable member knows, Quantitative Easing was a Bank of England initiative approved by the last Labour government to buy government bonds. 3 years ago the Bank said it must end, the limit had been reached not least because the government will have to buy those bonds back. As the house knows, the funds raised were in the main used to fund social spending commitments on welfare, health and education.

So when he says QE was bad for the people he is wrong. We have continued to borrow to fund social spending, we will continue to commit to support social spending but a sound economy is essential to fund this. We commit to a sound economy so we can continue to provide welfare where it is due, health services for all and education for our futures. Why do members opposite oppose that?


[/pretend Cameron mode]


over to ACH is he wants to ask a follow up.


ACH can respond too, I want to try being Corbyn now.

I want to use someone else's question with some embellishment to attack the point made.

Anyone willing to help out?
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Go on with ACH offline, you take it over skwirked just prefix your post with [pretend Corbyn] or the like
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Mr Prime minister, will you please promise to go easy on me during question times and try and make me look like a real politician?
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Go on with ACH offline, you take it over skwirked just prefix your post with [pretend Corbyn] or the like
I need someone to give me a 'question from the public' ie doris baker from llanelli with no arms and one eye is dying of aspiration how will you help her etc.

Demolish my last reply as Cam. and you as Corbyn please.  !bgrin!
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ACH can respond too, I want to try being Corbyn now.

I want to use someone else's question with some embellishment to attack the point made.

Anyone willing to help out?

The initial 2009 QE was necessary to restore liquidity to the banks .... allowing them to continue to lend. It was not to fund contingency spending! The gains from which delivered £35bn in interest profits to the BoE which Osborne inventively decided was Treasury money.
Osborne on the other hand did request £150bn of QE as monetary policy to appear to be restoring the economy.

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One of the primary reasons why the coalition government is perpetrating QQE through a myriad of smoke and mirrors is ideological, i.e. the Coalition Governments wants debt to GDP to be high so that it can use it as an effective reason for dismantling Labours 6 million strong public sector gravy train and benefits culture pool of voters. Therefore understand this that the debt is NOT the reason for the benefits and public spending cuts programme but Tory ideology, as their aim is to maintain the deficit and debt as a consequence of low taxes.
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Prime Minister, Labour are now a serious risk to national security. Am I safe to leave my house?


Steve, can you answer as the pretend Cameron please. He actually said those words.
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Prime Minister, Labour are now a serious risk to national security. Am I safe to leave my house?


Steve, can you answer as the pretend Cameron please. He actually said those words.


It is the Tories who have left the country nearly defenceless, they are far bigger current threat to national security than Corbyn.
Two aircraft carriers with no planes. The armed services cut to the point they could not quell a Saturday night in Union Street Plymouth.
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Not sure everyone's posting in the spirit of the OP. I'm going to try and gather up the [pretend Corbyn] questions and [pretend Cameron] replies. I can't fit Affa's and PSs recent posts as is into that - sorry.

The two joke ones might get missed too but ;D both
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Good answer Mr Smurph, but your impression of David Cameron is pretty crap, he would never say those words : )

Just a bit of trivia for the moment papa, you're right Union Street is quite dead now. Or they probably let it die on it's own. Not many people are mourning it's death to be honest because of the reputation. But I take your point about the armed services, they are sorely missed here.
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Question 1: Care Caps and Election dishonesty:

[Corbyn (SK)] Prime Minister you have placed great store on what you tell us is your government's financial sound policies. Seeing as within weeks of the General Election you had to renege on a manifesto commitment on capping care fees because your chancellor hadn't done his sums, is it not right that he should be dismissed and the electorate given a new election based on promises you have actually thought through?

[Cameron {skwirked)] We did make a commitment to cap the cost of care for the elderly, which is sorely needed after the mess Labour left for us. It is quite wrong that the elderly should have to sell their house just to make ends meet, we intend to end that. We are still firmly committed to this policy as reported by all media outlets recently. Let me tell you, we have done our work well, the economy is growing, our sums do add up. Perhaps the Rt Hon gent. would be kind enough to spell out his own plans for the economy? Printing more money certainly isn't going to help the elderly if our rconomy is in tatters!

[Corbyn (SK)] Well perhaps the Prime Minister has forgotten the manifesto he and every member opposite stood on in May. I have a copy here Which part of "We will cap charges for residential social care from April 2016" did he not understand? Which part of the economy did his Chancellor not understand?

Will the Prime Minister admit that he knew the policy was not costed, that the promise was false and that each and every member opposite has been elected by dint of false instrument to win the so called grey vote. Will he now ask each and every one of those members to resign and call bi-elections where they will campaign honestly?

[Cameron {skwirked)] Only if Labour promise to do the same, MPs voting against their own manifesto? Chaos?

Imagine what they'd be like in power, heaven forbid the electorate actually vote them in.
Thankfully the electorate have wised up to their tricks, we have moved on since 1979.

Our costed plans have returned the economy to growth, created more jobs, taken people out of unemployment.

As the late Baroness said: With Socialists, you spend other peoples money then the money runs out. *Irritating tough face*

[Corbyn (SK)] Thank you Prime Minister for not only confirming that you did win an election by false instrument, that you misled the house with promises of orderly PMQ and that you cannot be trusted. Perhaps you could inform the house which is the next election promise you will break?

[Cameron {skwirked)]Mr Speaker, the right hon gent has rebelled against his party more times than any other MP.

Breaking trust with his constituents and getting homself voted in on false pretexts. How is he going to rebel against his own party as its leader?

Typical Labour, a typical labour leader and an informed electorate who want nothing to do with his class war politics.

[Corbyn (SK)] I have been loyal to my stated principles, I have never broken a manifesto commitment in office. I ask again, Prime Minister could you inform the house which is the next election promise you will break and why will you not resign for breaking election rules by making false statements?
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Question 2: National Debt

[Corbyn (Tigger] What do you intend to do with the national debt which you have virtually doubled in five years and how many props will you use on the housing market before economic reality finally kicks in and wrecks the economy yet again?

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Question 3 Burden of Austerity

[Corbyn (Affa)] Prime Minister; when it is clear that on most all data analysis the fact is that the poorest in society have carried the burden of austerity far more than the wealthiest, who have not suffered the reduction in living standards of the average wage earner, can you still claim that "we are all in it together"?

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Question 4: Quantitative easing

[Corbyn (ACH)] "Why is QE good for the banks but bad for the people?"

[Cameron (SK)] As the honourable member knows, Quantitative Easing was a Bank of England initiative approved by the last Labour government to buy government bonds. 3 years ago the Bank said it must end, the limit had been reached not least because the government will have to buy those bonds back. As the house knows, the funds raised were in the main used to fund social spending commitments on welfare, health and education.

So when he says QE was bad for the people he is wrong. We have continued to borrow to fund social spending, we will continue to commit to support social spending but a sound economy is essential to fund this. We commit to a sound economy so we can continue to provide welfare where it is due, health services for all and education for our futures. Why do members opposite oppose that?

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