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How Jeremy Corbyn is being misquoted by the Tory press #PrivateEye; Our lovely media
Topic Started: Sep 18 2015, 05:12 PM (600 Views)
skwirked
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Fantastic extrapolations there.

Our "free and fair" media must be the envy of so many.
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disgruntled porker
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RJD
Sep 23 2015, 04:06 PM
papasmurf
Sep 23 2015, 03:22 PM
Affa
Sep 23 2015, 02:50 PM
While ever there are the wealthy, while ever there are corporate business here, while ever there is the Establishment, there will be a viable Conservative presence!

But only around 100000 votes can't get the Tories into power. Because the way things are going that will be about all the votes they have left.
Forever, despite history, you dream of your revolution. Recall in a period of significant social strife and much greater political disunion the Tories were in Gov. for most of the 20th C. Problem now is that they can relax as there is no credible replacement. Not only that but the Tories now dominate the centre ground of UK politics with the two posh boys vying for position of "most significant wet". They are sounding more like light blue Conservatives, never light blue Labourites, as time goes on.
Dream on Mr Smurf there is more probability that the middle-roaders rise up to put down the dangerous thoughts of Comrade Corbyn and his Acolytes, than the workers destroying their jobs and bringing down society just to spite the rich.



Do you really believe that last sentence? Do you really think that's what it's about?
Edited by disgruntled porker, Sep 24 2015, 08:16 AM.
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C-too
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Sep 23 2015, 07:57 PM
I'd say it was more about ensuring shareholders getting reasonable returns, and fuck the customer, a British tradition followed by our former car makers and textile industries, to name but two.
When Cable and Wireless was nationalised in 1948(?) it made a profit in its first year by simply cutting the bloated salaries at the top.

AFAIA, C&W never made a loss from the time it was nationalised right up to the point of being privatised. It won the 'Queens Award to Industry' during its final year as a nationalised industry, but IIRC, was still the first of the nationalised industries to feel the bite of privatisation.
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disgruntled porker
Sep 24 2015, 08:15 AM
Do you really believe that last sentence? Do you really think that's what it's about?
Of course he believes it, what he is oblivious to, is it is the middles classe being made poorer by government Tories policies and the emergent properties of them.
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papasmurf
Sep 23 2015, 10:51 AM
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Sep 23 2015, 10:47 AM


"Its the economy stupid" That's where the majority of votes come from, with idealism taking second place some way behind.

That only applies when both the economy AND the people are doing well. Currently increasingly the people are NOT doing well.
The Tories only got 25% of the electorate to vote for them at the last general election. With more people getting worse of as time goes by, there won't be anything like 25% available to the Tories next time.
That's just your opinion and perception, but it does not seem to be that of the majority. Others will and do se it differently. We have local elections I'n May of next year, with the government in power usually not doing so well as the opposition, the protest vote coming into play. That may give a true indication of the views of the public. though usually on a low turnout. There will always be "events" of the moment having some influence. Just have to wait and see, for there is usually a gap between our own views and interpretations and the results, as the last GE showed.
You may be right ,but then so might I be
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People in general vote for 'what is best for them and theirs', or rather what they perceive/believe is in their best interest ...... that's where the spin, lies, BS come into play, and the amount of it we are exposed to suggests that doing so works well.

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RJD
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Sep 23 2015, 05:02 PM
RJD
Sep 23 2015, 04:37 PM
papasmurf
Sep 23 2015, 04:23 PM

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According to you, but there still is no viable alternative and that is our problem. The Tories can be the shittiest Gov. since God knows and they still would see off Corbyn and his merry gang of fools. I hope to see a proper SDP, with serious minded Politicians, providing serious opposition and possibly Gov., replacing those naive fools.

It really is not worth wasting breath on Corbyn as he is just a 1st rate joke figure with zero understanding of what is required to pay our way in the World. I find it remarkable that some so-called educated people actually voice support in public.

And the caMoron isn't a joke? You have it bad if you cannot see what a joke caMoron is oink oink..
I do not see how you conclude that I think Cameron is not a joke. If Cameron is a joke that does not absolve Comrade Corbyn from being a complete naive idiot.

Putting aside the unproved claims about pigs, whiffs and chav eating habits, I find Cameron a disappointment as he has not cut the Public Sector Deficit and appears to be taking a very milksop attitude to EU reforms. I now view him as one of those that the sainted Lady would have called "Wets".
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And the caMoron isn't a joke? You have it bad if you cannot see what a joke caMoron is oink oink..
I do not see how you conclude that I think Cameron is not a joke. If Cameron is a joke that does not absolve Comrade Corbyn from being a complete naive idiot.

Putting aside the unproved claims about pigs, whiffs and chav eating habits, I find Cameron a disappointment as he has not cut the Public Sector Deficit and appears to be taking a very milksop attitude to EU reforms. I now view him as one of those that the sainted Lady would have called "Wets".
Well maybe not quite, but he may well be to the left of Thatcher, which wouldn't be too difficult. But even Thatcher didn't screw everything up in her first five years.
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We all agree that

- The Tories are inept
- Labour were inept

We all have different ways of fixing the problem, however.

So far some of Steve K's solutions ring out to me, I have yet to see RJD spell out any solution to our economic impasse.
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