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| Topic Started: Sep 19 2015, 08:10 PM (1,150 Views) | |
| Oddball | Sep 19 2015, 08:10 PM Post #1 |
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Well guys and gals, I have reached that time in life when assembling my family tree is turning from a hobby to a time consuming obsession. A least it keeps me off the booze, gambling and drugs etc.. It is amazing what I am learning about my relatives - warts and all. How many of you have taken to online family and inter e-mail sleuthing? Found any juicy stuff yet? |
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 4 2015, 12:11 PM Post #41 |
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Cha gheill! |
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| Deleted User | Oct 4 2015, 04:17 PM Post #42 |
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Yes. I am a direct descendant of both Adam and Eve. |
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 4 2015, 05:20 PM Post #43 |
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Inbred. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 4 2015, 07:06 PM Post #44 |
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Nope .Pure bred. As opposed to you Canucks who are the descendants of the dregs of Europe and surprised Eskimo girls....
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 4 2015, 11:20 PM Post #45 |
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An an historian friend put it: " Anyone with any brains or ambition left the U.K. generations ago". ... or,in the words of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, you are on the "B" ark, with the other telephone sanitizers and marketing managers. |
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| skwirked | Oct 4 2015, 11:27 PM Post #46 |
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That HHGTTG quote sums up Canadian culture perfectly. True on the brains and ambition bit; they had a brain the size of a pea and the ambition of a fly heading for glory......right into a UV bug zapper.
Edited by skwirked, Oct 4 2015, 11:28 PM.
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 4 2015, 11:42 PM Post #47 |
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Yes, you will still be allowed in when you need to emmigrate after all has gone to shyte in the UK. We are your life boat, still. |
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| skwirked | Oct 4 2015, 11:47 PM Post #48 |
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Well you beat me there, seems your ancestors certainly had the 'brains' as I said. Canada is hardly the paradise you make it out to be. |
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 4 2015, 11:53 PM Post #49 |
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Not paradise but we have a long future ahead of us. The world is our oyster. Decay, decline, loss of identity, loss of sovereignty, poverty, claustrophobia, spent resources ... All of these things are many centuries in our future. Edited by Curious Cdn, Oct 5 2015, 12:04 AM.
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| Deleted User | Oct 5 2015, 03:45 PM Post #50 |
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I'm sure that you and your friend spend many happy hours comparing your respective shoulder chips. The will probably be assimilated into the EU in a far less brutal way than the Canucks assimilated the indigenous population . Thats is a potentially better future than a country with large areas of land and small minds....as you repeatedly demonstrate. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 5 2015, 03:46 PM Post #51 |
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Sovereignty !!!
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| Oddball | Oct 6 2015, 12:10 PM Post #52 |
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I'm getting to Adam and Eve the long way. Actually 'known' records stop at Noah I believe, since the great flood around Mesopotamia and surrounding environs kind of put the scuppers on 'family trees'. On a more serious note, I am following up on research and 'conclusions' evaluated by heavyweight academia, not weekend hobbyists. It is really grabbing me, and I am increasingly surprised at the amount of information and detail that still exists from historic and indeed so-called pre-history. Well guys I am back to my 104th great-grandparents and the beginnings of historic links between Ireland and Spain, and between Spain and Egypt [possibly even taking in a pharaoh], and also to Jerusalem, Judah, etc.. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 6 2015, 12:21 PM Post #53 |
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To be honest it sounds like masterbation... gratification of a sort but actually achieving little outside of it. |
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| marybrown | Oct 6 2015, 01:26 PM Post #54 |
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No..you don't gain anything from it..but it is fun when you find out your great great great grandmother ran a house of ill repute! |
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| Deleted User | Oct 6 2015, 01:33 PM Post #55 |
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That's the 'money shot' I presume. |
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| marybrown | Oct 6 2015, 02:56 PM Post #56 |
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No..it's fun finding out that 2 of your forbearers got hung for nicking sheep!! |
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| Deleted User | Oct 6 2015, 03:20 PM Post #57 |
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Yes like masterbation... gratification of a sort but actually achieving little outside of it. The only difference is that you and others seem to be proud to be wankers. You can find 100 nonentities that are true reflections of yourself but proudly announce the anomalies that reflect nothing. |
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| marybrown | Oct 6 2015, 03:42 PM Post #58 |
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I am truly sorry that my post bores you.. Masterbation is actually spelled Masturbation.. But then I am sure you would know that.. !dvl! |
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| Deleted User | Oct 6 2015, 03:55 PM Post #59 |
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I didnt think it looked right. At least I got 'wankers' right so you should have got the gist of it. My great great great great.... boring...... grandfather's second cousin was related to Boadicea or some other old bollocks isn't interesting or makes you interesting. It just makes you look sad......... I shall leave the floor to your good self. |
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| Jessamy Bride | Oct 6 2015, 07:37 PM Post #60 |
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It is quite interesting....bit like a detective story.... and you find out about the lives of the people who went before. I don't look like any members of my immediate family....then I uncovered a photo of my great, great grandmother. The likeness is startling. Some of these traits we have crop up after generations. |
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 6 2015, 11:44 PM Post #61 |
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We did not successfully assimilate our First Nations, nor did the Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Rhodesians who were also left with a similar mess when the British slunk home after looting and then colonizing those places. All of those monumental buildings in places like London were paid for with booty from other continents. |
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| Oddball | Oct 7 2015, 09:12 AM Post #62 |
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I startled the hell out of my eldest son when I lined up a photo of him around 20yrs of age with one of me and another of his grandfather at about the same age - three peas in a pod! I get most 'kicks' out of learning the general social and cultural aspects of the time and see how my recorded ancestors fitted in. The problem, as always when it comes to most of our ancestors that missed coming to historic notice is that we can only glimpse their possible lives through the medium of general social records. There is quite a lot, surprise surprise, about the nobs in the tree, doncha knows. One ancestor pulled apart {'rent asunder' - presumably by hosses], by the son of someone [names given] who my ancestor had had murdered. Another killed in a sword fight {again names given]. Yet another committed suicide by 'falling' on his sword. Edited by Oddball, Oct 7 2015, 09:25 AM.
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| Deleted User | Oct 7 2015, 09:12 AM Post #63 |
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The bottom line is that whinging Canucks like you are just as culpable for the fate of its former indigenous population as the imperialists who colonised Canada. Your and your kind colluded with the British in snatching the resources of the indigenous population. The difference is that you still have it. The British seemed to have grown up and moved on. It is clear that you ( and probably quite a few of your kind) have not. |
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| C-too | Oct 7 2015, 10:22 AM Post #64 |
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Hmm, does that include Canada ? Wasn't it the British who defeated the French and created your country ? Canadians are largely from British stock, where else do you think you got your backbone from ? |
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 7 2015, 10:44 AM Post #65 |
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... and our penchant for crushing indigenous peoples? That came directly oiut of British culture and it happened everywhere that the British colonozed. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 7 2015, 10:50 AM Post #66 |
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And you still keep the booty. I dont see any sign of you giving it back either. |
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| marybrown | Oct 7 2015, 01:26 PM Post #67 |
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The Earls of Dudley had a cute way of divorcing their wives..they'd get someone to push them over the battlements of Dudley castle....Next! |
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 7 2015, 11:08 PM Post #68 |
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What would you give back? |
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| Deleted User | Oct 8 2015, 01:58 PM Post #69 |
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If I didnt then I would at least have the sense to realise that everything that I accuse the people who facilitated my possession of stolen goods reflects back on me. Something that you seem to lack. |
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| C-too | Oct 9 2015, 08:23 AM Post #70 |
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Being advanced of and more able than many indigenous cultures, yes. But as far as I'm aware the Canadian Indians and the French Canadians still survive, as too do the Maori in New Zealand and the Aborigines Australia. The Russians absolutely crushed the indigenous natives in the Russian outback which is possibly why the Russian population is so small in comparison to its land mass. |
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| Curious Cdn | Oct 9 2015, 10:37 AM Post #71 |
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When did you say that the Elgim Marbles are going back to Athens? |
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| Deleted User | Oct 9 2015, 01:04 PM Post #72 |
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Try as you may to deflect your guilt ,you do not seem to able to refute that all Canucks benefit from the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population. Not only did they collude in it but they are still enjoying the spoils. Glass houses and stones..Google it
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| Oddball | Nov 20 2015, 02:14 PM Post #73 |
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Plunder has been going on for millennia, yes I know that doesn't excuse individual actions, but the truth is that at the time Lord Elgin had those 'marbles' away Athens was under Ottoman control and a heck of a lot of Greek history was getting destroyed and/or spirited away. At least the Elgin marbles have not suffered further damage and are 'safely' and 'carefully' housed in the British Museum, where the folks of the world are free to view and study them. In one sense I agree that perhaps they should go back to where they come from, but then again why pick out just those marbles, and just when, where and why should we call a halt to this process? Should we have museums? Should we just let everything face the vagaries of risk and damage , human and/or climatic in the places from which they originated? |
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| Oddball | Nov 20 2015, 02:48 PM Post #74 |
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Interestingly in one of my 'trace backs' has 'Adam and Eve' as my 147th great grand parents. Clearly the Hebrew sense of timeline is rather problematic, considering I have personally seen full and nearly full skeletal examples of homo sapiens dating back 10,000 years and more. Also there are examples of parts of skeletons and indeed semi-fossilised foot prints of homo sapiens going back to a time when the area that is now the North Sea was a swampy area that was hunted over and traversed on foot. Granted that 500,000 year old Boxgrove man was not Homo Sapiens, but some sort of 'parallel' species called Homo Heidelbergensis. There are other lines of my family tree that I have had to give up on because they started to become merged in Greek and Norse pagan myth and legend. I guess I might get to know the truth of things if I get to cross the 'river Styx' and enter 'Valhalla'. Edited by Oddball, Nov 20 2015, 02:49 PM.
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| Deleted User | Nov 20 2015, 02:51 PM Post #75 |
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'Interestingly' is subjective. |
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| Oddball | Nov 20 2015, 03:01 PM Post #76 |
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But of course; even objectivity runs the gauntlet of subjectivity - subjectivity has been with us longer than objectivity, and is very deeply entrenched, even within those who hold themselves to be most rational. Done all that sort of gubbins at uni a while back. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 20 2015, 03:10 PM Post #77 |
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As I said interestingly is subjective.You have demonstrated that twice in a row. |
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| disgruntled porker | Dec 12 2015, 11:12 AM Post #78 |
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Older than most people think I am.
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Dal Raiata? I think I once had some of that with a lamb jalfrezi. Are you sure he was Scottish?
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| Oddball | Jan 21 2016, 10:00 AM Post #79 |
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Just a quickie to let you guys know that you may hail me with - Ave Imperator moritum te salutant, or indeed, Salve Caesar. I have discovered quite a number of Roman Emperors and Empresses in the old lineage. Two notable ones are Constantine I 'The Great', the guy who 'Christianised' the Empire, and his mother, Saint Helena 'Of the True Cross', Empress of Rome. Helena actually came from lowly stock - her father was an 'unnamed' innkeeper and her mother has no record at all - she was probably a concubine 'wife' of her pagan emperor husband who died in Eboracum - aka Yorvic/York [the church of St. Helena in York was reputedly built over his grave site, Helena's remains are entombed in the Vatican. They are [amongst] my 61st and 62nd great grandparents.
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| marybrown | Jan 21 2016, 01:21 PM Post #80 |
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Wow... Hail Caesar!!.. Try not to fiddle whilst Britain is burning..
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