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Corbyn FAILS to boost Labour's popularity, dire poll
Topic Started: Sep 19 2015, 10:47 PM (1,758 Views)
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Jeremy Corbyn FAILS to boost Labour's popularity, dire poll results reveal

JEREMY Corbyn winning the Labour leadership has done nothing for the party's popularity.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/606532/Jeremy-Corbyn-fails-boost-Labour-popularity-poll

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I personally believe this has more to do with most of Labour MPs rather than Corbyn. The moment he was selected as the Leader for Labour party, the attacks began. Clearly this was noticed by population, especially when a number stated they would defect to LibDems at one point if Corbyn did not comply with what they wanted him to do.

The Labour party is deeply divided, and Corbyn is backed into a corner. He very little support, and I seriously doubt he would be able to win any election the way things stand.
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Steve K
Sep 30 2015, 09:53 AM
RJD
Sep 30 2015, 09:36 AM
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Sep 30 2015, 08:38 AM

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Not necessary to include all of ONS data only that appertaining to the current situation which fully supports the claim. Mr Smurf it is a myth that the UK is living in some Victorian poverty situation where the Masters are whipping the flesh off the backs of Workers. Time for you to travel to the 21st C.

But here's the issues

yes total employed is up but when you look at total British employed it is stagnant

yes average wages are up but as your own recent thread shows that is only really for those able to be IT specialists, accountants etc

So the economy the Tories have built is actually growing an underclass and one that is having a series of crude collateral casualty creating measures applied to it to cut welfare spend

In a word: nightmarish
Rubbish the economy was built over decades and most of those under NL.
The reason why unskilled jobs are not getting the same rate of wage increase is due to the fact that there is a continued over supply. The Gov. seemingly does not have the instruments to moderate the inflows to that pool. Claiming that this situation was magic-ed into being after the 2010 GE is pure BS and you know it. In truth this Gov. has done more to elevate the situation than the previous one by increasing tax thresholds and the NLW. More can be done, but first we need to generate surpluses.
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Sep 28 2015, 12:07 AM
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Sep 27 2015, 11:55 PM
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Sep 27 2015, 11:21 PM

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They increased social benefits and increased civil servants two thing no Neo Liberal government would do.

Did NL come to office to work within an existing neo liberal economy ?

Did NL introduce the neo liberal economy ?

Did the neo liberal economy appear to be working well in the early years of the NL government ?

Did NL come to office after 18 years of callous Conservatism ?

Did old Labour spend most of its time as an opposition party ?
Most people admired Wilson and Attlee, even Tories.

We need powerful leaders like those guys, but with modern policies that are workable.

NL is dead, it 's best not to continuously extol their praises when even Blair himself has edged away from it all...to the extent of implicitly endorsing Cam.
Atlee perhaps but not Shyster Wilson.
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RJD
Sep 30 2015, 11:07 AM
Steve K
Sep 30 2015, 09:53 AM
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Sep 30 2015, 09:36 AM

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But here's the issues

yes total employed is up but when you look at total British employed it is stagnant

yes average wages are up but as your own recent thread shows that is only really for those able to be IT specialists, accountants etc

So the economy the Tories have built is actually growing an underclass and one that is having a series of crude collateral casualty creating measures applied to it to cut welfare spend

In a word: nightmarish
Rubbish the economy was built over decades and most of those under NL.
The reason why unskilled jobs are not getting the same rate of wage increase is due to the fact that there is a continued over supply. The Gov. seemingly does not have the instruments to moderate the inflows to that pool. Claiming that this situation was magic-ed into being after the 2010 GE is pure BS and you know it. In truth this Gov. has done more to elevate the situation than the previous one by increasing tax thresholds and the NLW. More can be done, but first we need to generate surpluses.
Yes fair point NewLabour and Old Labour were just as much if not more to blame for taxing jobs

But Cameron has had over 5 years to reverse the evils and he has not. He is now as culpable but what do we see? We see him and the wider Tories claiming great credit for figures that actually show greater social division pressures.
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Sep 30 2015, 11:19 AM
RJD
Sep 30 2015, 11:07 AM
Steve K
Sep 30 2015, 09:53 AM

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Rubbish the economy was built over decades and most of those under NL.
The reason why unskilled jobs are not getting the same rate of wage increase is due to the fact that there is a continued over supply. The Gov. seemingly does not have the instruments to moderate the inflows to that pool. Claiming that this situation was magic-ed into being after the 2010 GE is pure BS and you know it. In truth this Gov. has done more to elevate the situation than the previous one by increasing tax thresholds and the NLW. More can be done, but first we need to generate surpluses.
Yes fair point NewLabour and Old Labour were just as much if not more to blame for taxing jobs

But Cameron has had over 5 years to reverse the evils and he has not. He is now as culpable but what do we see? We see him and the wider Tories claiming great credit for figures that actually show greater social division pressures.
I am happy to agree that Cameron is culpable as he and his mate moderated the rate at which the Public Sector Deficit will be cut hence postponing those cuts in taxes required by Workers. I would love to see the basic rate of tax threshold increased to ~£15,000, VAT back down to 17.5% and Employers NI abolished, but I do not expect to see such until we are in surplus. I do not expect to see the economy in surplus.
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