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Jeremy Corbyn to gatecrash Tory conference by speaking at rally; A rare instance of a political leader visiting a city during a rival’s event, Corbyn to appear at posties rally.
Topic Started: Sep 29 2015, 09:52 AM (108 Views)
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/29/jeremy-corbyn-to-gatecrash-tory-conference-by-speaking-at-rally

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Jeremy Corbyn is to gatecrash the Conservative conference in Manchester next week by speaking at a rally organised by the postal workers’ union.

A series of anti-austerity protests are scheduled in the city during the conference. On Monday, the opening day, Corbyn is due to address a rally, one of a number of events during a national week of action organised by the People’s Assembly, an anti-austerity campaign group.

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Corbyn will speak at Manchester cathedral on the future of UK postal services, under the banner of the People’s Post campaign, organised by the Communication Workers Union (CWU). The campaign is due to broaden into a wider attack on government spending cuts.

Royal Mail has already been privatised, and the Labour leadership has no plans to bring it back into public ownership if it was elected.

Other speakers at the event include Natalie Bennett, leader of the Green party, writers Owen Jones and Kevin Maguire, as well as Lindsey German, the chair of the Stop the War coalition.

The CWU general secretary, Dave Ward, said: “We are delighted to host such a high-profile public meeting and invite the people of Manchester and the surrounding areas to come out in force to support the People’s Post and debate the future of our country.

“This event takes place during the Tory party conference. We are sending a clear message to the government by taking our campaign to the heart of their key calendar event. This is and always will be – the People’s Post.

A major anti-austerity demonstration is to be held in Manchester on Sunday.


Oh my, this comes to mind:

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That said, Manc is a choice city, certainly plenty of labour support. Risky and potentially divisive strategy this.  !bgrin!
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Deleted. Posted in wrong thread. Sorry.
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!jk! And it looks like someone has gatecrashed my thread too.
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Can't wait for the debate, Austerity Necessary: Yes - No to get a proper airing (if it ever does). It has never gotten the coverage it should have had five years ago.
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Sep 29 2015, 09:52 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/29/jeremy-corbyn-to-gatecrash-tory-conference-by-speaking-at-rally

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Jeremy Corbyn is to gatecrash the Conservative conference in Manchester next week by speaking at a rally organised by the postal workers’ union.

A series of anti-austerity protests are scheduled in the city during the conference. On Monday, the opening day, Corbyn is due to address a rally, one of a number of events during a national week of action organised by the People’s Assembly, an anti-austerity campaign group.

Live Labour firms up its support for rail renationalisation ahead of Corbyn's speech - Politics live
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Traditionally party leaders avoid each other’s conferences, and give them the space to set out their political messages without interference. It is rare for a party leader to visit the city where another leader is hosting their conference.

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Corbyn will speak at Manchester cathedral on the future of UK postal services, under the banner of the People’s Post campaign, organised by the Communication Workers Union (CWU). The campaign is due to broaden into a wider attack on government spending cuts.

Royal Mail has already been privatised, and the Labour leadership has no plans to bring it back into public ownership if it was elected.

Other speakers at the event include Natalie Bennett, leader of the Green party, writers Owen Jones and Kevin Maguire, as well as Lindsey German, the chair of the Stop the War coalition.

The CWU general secretary, Dave Ward, said: “We are delighted to host such a high-profile public meeting and invite the people of Manchester and the surrounding areas to come out in force to support the People’s Post and debate the future of our country.

“This event takes place during the Tory party conference. We are sending a clear message to the government by taking our campaign to the heart of their key calendar event. This is and always will be – the People’s Post.

A major anti-austerity demonstration is to be held in Manchester on Sunday.


Oh my, this comes to mind:

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That said, Manc is a choice city, certainly plenty of labour support. Risky and potentially divisive strategy this.  !bgrin!
Ill mannered confrontational and divisive again.
How would he have appreciated it if other political parties had done the same with the intent of disrupting his conference. He has waited to announce it towards the end of his own conference to avoid retaliation in kind.
Counter productive to his own reputation and standing with the general public and his own party MPs IMO.
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Sep 29 2015, 10:11 AM
Can't wait for the debate, Austerity Necessary: Yes - No to get a proper airing (if it ever does). It has never gotten the coverage it should have had five years ago.
I really do not see what there is to debate. Does anyone think it a moral stance to consume today and present the costs to future generations? Gordon Brown and Balls said they were against such, the Tories also say they are, but in Office they seem to find it expedient to ignore claims to morality.

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Sep 29 2015, 02:24 PM
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Sep 29 2015, 10:11 AM
Can't wait for the debate, Austerity Necessary: Yes - No to get a proper airing (if it ever does). It has never gotten the coverage it should have had five years ago.
I really do not see what there is to debate. Does anyone think it a moral stance to consume today and present the costs to future generations? Gordon Brown and Balls said they were against such, the Tories also say they are, but in Office they seem to find it expedient to ignore claims to morality.

It will be a laugh watching both sides tearing proverbial chunks out of each other, real punch and judy politics from the 70s/80s.
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Sep 29 2015, 02:29 PM
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Sep 29 2015, 02:24 PM
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Sep 29 2015, 10:11 AM
Can't wait for the debate, Austerity Necessary: Yes - No to get a proper airing (if it ever does). It has never gotten the coverage it should have had five years ago.
I really do not see what there is to debate. Does anyone think it a moral stance to consume today and present the costs to future generations? Gordon Brown and Balls said they were against such, the Tories also say they are, but in Office they seem to find it expedient to ignore claims to morality.

It will be a laugh watching both sides tearing proverbial chunks out of each other, real punch and judy politics from the 70s/80s.
It is a serious matter as we now have a debt that costs more than the MOD each year. Expensive even though money is very cheap.

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Sep 29 2015, 03:31 PM
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Sep 29 2015, 02:29 PM
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Sep 29 2015, 02:24 PM

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It will be a laugh watching both sides tearing proverbial chunks out of each other, real punch and judy politics from the 70s/80s.
It is a serious matter as we now have a debt that costs more than the MOD each year. Expensive even though money is very cheap.

What can be done? People like us cannot beam subliminal msgs into politician's brains.

As SK pointed out no side has a credible solution.

It is a laughing matter, look at them trying to impress with dumb soundbites. Look at how they er and stutter and don't look people in the eye/face the camera. They are a bunch of phoneys - with a tiny handful of exceptions.

Edited by skwirked, Sep 29 2015, 03:54 PM.
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Sep 29 2015, 03:53 PM
People like us cannot beam subliminal msgs into politician's brains.

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Sep 29 2015, 03:31 PM
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Sep 29 2015, 02:29 PM

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It is a serious matter as we now have a debt that costs more than the MOD each year. Expensive even though money is very cheap.

What can be done? People like us cannot beam subliminal msgs into politician's brains.

As SK pointed out no side has a credible solution.

It is a laughing matter, look at them trying to impress with dumb soundbites. Look at how they er and stutter and don't look people in the eye/face the camera. They are a bunch of phoneys - with a tiny handful of exceptions.

The credible solution is to plan for a surplus, one that will pay down the mountain of debt over 10 years say. But in order to do that we need to cut the cost of the State. Osborne talks the talk, but thus far he has stumbled along at a snail's pace. Ten years of running a surplus, when is that likely to happen?



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Sep 29 2015, 04:14 PM
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People like us cannot beam subliminal msgs into politician's brains.

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Your standard solution "kill those you politically dislike".
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Sep 29 2015, 04:16 PM
Your standard solution "kill those you politically dislike".
It has nothing to do with political dislike, it is to do with stopping politicians killing vulnerable citizens.
Killing a few to save many. Even a Quaker has been known to do that, and got a medal for it.
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>>A major anti-austerity demonstration is to be held in Manchester on Sunday.>>

Nothing new there

There is always a major noisy lefty demo of some variety on the Sunday of the Conservative party conference , Details are usually published in the Conference program because if you arrive while it's still on it prevents taxis reaching the conference hotels and delegates have to walk the last few hundred yards with their luggage .
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>>A major anti-austerity demonstration is to be held in Manchester on Sunday.>>

Nothing new there

There is always a major noisy lefty demo of some variety on the Sunday of the Conservative party conference , Details are usually published in the Conference program because if you arrive while it's still on it prevents taxis reaching the conference hotels and delegates have to walk the last few hundred yards with their luggage .
Er not a proper labour rally, but ok if its all the same to you. :thumbsup:
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Sep 29 2015, 04:16 PM
Your standard solution "kill those you politically dislike".
It has nothing to do with political dislike, it is to do with stopping politicians killing vulnerable citizens.
Killing a few to save many. Even a Quaker has been known to do that, and got a medal for it.
Civilised people prefer debate and persuasion. I recall Hitler liked to kill those he disliked and look what happened to him.

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Civilised people prefer debate and persuasion.
But the politicians causing the problem aren't civilised.
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Civilised people prefer debate and persuasion.
But the politicians causing the problem aren't civilised.
That is irrelevant.
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Sep 29 2015, 10:20 AM
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Sep 29 2015, 09:52 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/29/jeremy-corbyn-to-gatecrash-tory-conference-by-speaking-at-rally

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Jeremy Corbyn is to gatecrash the Conservative conference in Manchester next week by speaking at a rally organised by the postal workers’ union.

A series of anti-austerity protests are scheduled in the city during the conference. On Monday, the opening day, Corbyn is due to address a rally, one of a number of events during a national week of action organised by the People’s Assembly, an anti-austerity campaign group.

Live Labour firms up its support for rail renationalisation ahead of Corbyn's speech - Politics live
Read more
Traditionally party leaders avoid each other’s conferences, and give them the space to set out their political messages without interference. It is rare for a party leader to visit the city where another leader is hosting their conference.

Members

Guardian Live | A life in politics with Alan Johnson
Tuesday, 20 October

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Corbyn will speak at Manchester cathedral on the future of UK postal services, under the banner of the People’s Post campaign, organised by the Communication Workers Union (CWU). The campaign is due to broaden into a wider attack on government spending cuts.

Royal Mail has already been privatised, and the Labour leadership has no plans to bring it back into public ownership if it was elected.

Other speakers at the event include Natalie Bennett, leader of the Green party, writers Owen Jones and Kevin Maguire, as well as Lindsey German, the chair of the Stop the War coalition.

The CWU general secretary, Dave Ward, said: “We are delighted to host such a high-profile public meeting and invite the people of Manchester and the surrounding areas to come out in force to support the People’s Post and debate the future of our country.

“This event takes place during the Tory party conference. We are sending a clear message to the government by taking our campaign to the heart of their key calendar event. This is and always will be – the People’s Post.

A major anti-austerity demonstration is to be held in Manchester on Sunday.


Oh my, this comes to mind:

Posted Image

That said, Manc is a choice city, certainly plenty of labour support. Risky and potentially divisive strategy this.  !bgrin!
Ill mannered confrontational and divisive again.
How would he have appreciated it if other political parties had done the same with the intent of disrupting his conference. He has waited to announce it towards the end of his own conference to avoid retaliation in kind.
Counter productive to his own reputation and standing with the general public and his own party MPs IMO.
Maybe they will return the favour Blair showed an octogenarian ?? protestor and have him carted off as a terrorist.

After all they were going to bust Wilson and compared to Corbyn Wilson seems almost Tory !!!
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/29/jeremy-corbyn-to-gatecrash-tory-conference-by-speaking-at-rally


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That said, Manc is a choice city, certainly plenty of labour support. Risky and potentially divisive strategy this.  !bgrin!
Ill mannered confrontational and divisive again.
How would he have appreciated it if other political parties had done the same with the intent of disrupting his conference. He has waited to announce it towards the end of his own conference to avoid retaliation in kind.
Counter productive to his own reputation and standing with the general public and his own party MPs IMO.
Maybe they will return the favour Blair showed an octogenarian ?? protestor and have him carted off as a terrorist.

After all they were going to bust Wilson and compared to Corbyn Wilson seems almost Tory !!!
Making him a martyr will really help Labour's cause, hope they do as uou suggested.
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Sep 29 2015, 04:15 PM
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Sep 29 2015, 03:53 PM
RJD
Sep 29 2015, 03:31 PM

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What can be done? People like us cannot beam subliminal msgs into politician's brains.

As SK pointed out no side has a credible solution.

It is a laughing matter, look at them trying to impress with dumb soundbites. Look at how they er and stutter and don't look people in the eye/face the camera. They are a bunch of phoneys - with a tiny handful of exceptions.

The credible solution is to plan for a surplus, one that will pay down the mountain of debt over 10 years say. But in order to do that we need to cut the cost of the State. Osborne talks the talk, but thus far he has stumbled along at a snail's pace. Ten years of running a surplus, when is that likely to happen?



Rather tediously you totally ignore the fact that the Tories have almost doubled the national debt in a mere five years, but your solution is to trash public services!

Risible.
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