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Corbyns Conference Speech FactChecked
Topic Started: Sep 30 2015, 01:12 PM (87 Views)
papasmurf
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Just been informed about this by email from Fullfact, some here may be interested in reading it:-

https://fullfact.org/factcheck/corbyn_speech_labour_conference-48468
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skwirked
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How can an agenda be fact checked? He made only a few things completely clear.

The rest remains to be seen.
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skwirked
Sep 30 2015, 01:24 PM
How can an agenda be fact checked? He made only a few things completely clear.

The rest remains to be seen.
I suggest you read the link and then comment. The FactCheck is on the numbers used by Corbyn in his speech not any agenda.
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Steve K
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papasmurf
Sep 30 2015, 01:48 PM
skwirked
Sep 30 2015, 01:24 PM
How can an agenda be fact checked? He made only a few things completely clear.

The rest remains to be seen.
I suggest you read the link and then comment. The FactCheck is on the numbers used by Corbyn in his speech not any agenda.
Exactly and an excellent link thanls

As I read it, mostly he came out OK but seems there were a few twisted stories in his speech
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I read the link and the speech, the majority of his speech WAS NOT checkable.

As I said before, it was a good speech.
Edited by skwirked, Sep 30 2015, 02:25 PM.
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Steve K
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skwirked
Sep 30 2015, 02:24 PM
I read the link and the speech, the majority of his speech WAS NOT checkable.

As I said before, it was a good speech.
But low on specifics and less than straight die on investment, poverty and what Cameron said

And we were told he was the honest politician !jk!
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papasmurf
Sep 30 2015, 01:12 PM
Just been informed about this by email from Fullfact, some here may be interested in reading it:-

https://fullfact.org/factcheck/corbyn_speech_labour_conference-48468
The speech given by Mr Corbyn was basically saying that nothing is decided until debate has taken place therefore the only agenda is the debate on issues that matter to the labour party, Mr Corbyn has already stated that if he were PM he would never use a nuclear weapon and that immigration has been nothing but a benefit to this country.

Anyway have a listen to the short following clip from the "world at one" on R4 today and see what you think of flip flop Andy's thoughts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06d8h12#play
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Steve K
Sep 30 2015, 02:26 PM
skwirked
Sep 30 2015, 02:24 PM
I read the link and the speech, the majority of his speech WAS NOT checkable.

As I said before, it was a good speech.
But low on specifics and less than straight die on investment, poverty and what Cameron said

And we were told he was the honest politician !jk!
Honest politicians?

I can see your reaponse already. :P
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skwirked
Sep 30 2015, 02:29 PM
Steve K
Sep 30 2015, 02:26 PM
skwirked
Sep 30 2015, 02:24 PM
I read the link and the speech, the majority of his speech WAS NOT checkable.

As I said before, it was a good speech.
But low on specifics and less than straight die on investment, poverty and what Cameron said

And we were told he was the honest politician !jk!
Honest politicians?

I can see your reaponse already. :P
There are no grades of honesty just grades of dishonesty

And frankly he ain't looking too good
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skwirked
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Comparing his dishonesty to other politicians'?
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He did OK, I guess. Better than many expected. But in essence, it was a regurgitation of the policies of the 80's, and very short in detail. He got a good reception at the conference, and it is, of course, always easy if preaching to the already converted. But it was hardly likely to sway any undecided voters into joining the Labour camp. I still think that Labour under Corbyn is unelectable, and I still think that he will not be there in a couple of years time.

Having said that, he made a couple of good policy statements that even appealed to this right of centre voter. Trident is a complete waste of billions of pounds, and surely something has to be done to protect tenants renting property. Some security of tenure, perhaps. And some control on rent increases. Hell....agreeing with Jeremy!
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skwirked
Sep 30 2015, 01:24 PM
How can an agenda be fact checked? He made only a few things completely clear.

The rest remains to be seen.
What did he make clear? Clear as mud perhaps.
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Steve K
Sep 30 2015, 02:31 PM
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Sep 30 2015, 02:29 PM
Steve K
Sep 30 2015, 02:26 PM

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Honest politicians?

I can see your reaponse already. :P
There are no grades of honesty just grades of dishonesty

And frankly he ain't looking too good
Good summary.
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"Tom Watson: 2,200 joined Labour after Jeremy Corbyn's 'new politics' address [Full speech]
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This despite the Intransigent Defence Committee fighting on all issues in life, left wing or right.
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What about his story telling re Scotland? These, obviously fed to him by Dugdale and her team, are demonstrably false. The Rev Campbell points out the lies http://wingsoverscotland.com/advice-for-jeremy-corbyn/
Winning back the voters, by repeating the tactics carried out from prior to the 2007 election, has really worked: 2011, 2015 anyone!
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skwirked
Sep 30 2015, 06:32 PM
"Tom Watson: 2,200 joined Labour after Jeremy Corbyn's 'new politics' address [Full speech]
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This despite the Intransigent Defence Committee fighting on all issues in life, left wing or right.
Only 2,200. Surely there are more red starry eyed Loons than that?

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