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Topic Started: Nov 17 2015, 10:42 AM (256 Views)
RJD
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Corbyn is just an old 1980s leftie, seemingly incapabale of intellectual devolopment or even the application of basic common sense. When he hears “Shoot to kill” he is back thirty years ago thinking of the IRA and the controversies about rules of engement with those terrorists, who were evil but not suicide bombers. It must remind of those old rows about whether the SAS should have killed that IRA team on their way to set off bombs (yes, they should). That’s all fine, if you like that sort of thing, for left-wing fringe meetings at Labour conference in 1986. It is not fine for someone auditioning for the role of Prime Minister at a time when the West faces ISIS.


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This is not merely a question of Corbyn trashing what is left of Labour’s electability. Labour MPs have a patriotic duty to remove Corbyn as soon as possible for a more important reason. Britain needs a serious opposition party and potential alternative government to hold the current administration to account, particularly at a time when worried ministers understandably want to appropriate more power for the State. Corbyn is a bad joke which means democratic oversight is weakened and the country is weaker, because Labour is led by a man who can be justifiably dismissed as an idiot for not understanding why ‎it is right to shoot to kill armed ISIS terrorists engaged in the act of blowing us up.



Dear Labour please remove this idiot.


The man is the biggest turn off in UK Politics and makes one ashamed to be an Englishman. The idiot is a would be wannabe PM for goodness sake. Does he really think that warm words will make these Monsters love us and lay down their arms?

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Of course if any of this were true the Tories would be giving him the OK.
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Complete waste of internet bandwidth these articles.
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RJD
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Nov 17 2015, 02:55 PM
Of course if any of this were true the Tories would be giving him the OK.
It is all true, best you wake up to the fact that the man is serially incompetent and a fool. If you want to follow such fools be my guest, but expect to find yourself in a dwindling number of believers. The man is so obviously out of his depth that one feels sorry for him.
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Why is he then doing so well at PMQs?

I really don't get this fake complacency. Has he not rattled Cam many times?

Has he not laid out an old labour style dem soc mandate?

He is only as incompetent as all other leaders over the past 3-4 govts, yes that's correct he isn't the charlatan; Cam is.

If the EU reform bsing catastrophic joke show was not serial & utter incompetence please do tell me what is. Not bowing to the queen? Corb's choice of bicycle?

I am not likely to vote Labour but I can sure as hell call out the Tories for the clowns that they are, what a pity their supporters are only slowly beginning to realise.
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Nov 17 2015, 06:07 PM
Affa
Nov 17 2015, 02:55 PM
Of course if any of this were true the Tories would be giving him the OK.
It is all true, best you wake up to the fact that the man is serially incompetent and a fool. If you want to follow such fools be my guest, but expect to find yourself in a dwindling number of believers. The man is so obviously out of his depth that one feels sorry for him.

Is it George Osborne being referred to? Sure reads like it!

Edited by Affa, Nov 17 2015, 10:29 PM.
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Nov 17 2015, 10:42 AM
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Corbyn is just an old 1980s leftie, seemingly incapabale of intellectual devolopment or even the application of basic common sense. When he hears “Shoot to kill” he is back thirty years ago thinking of the IRA and the controversies about rules of engement with those terrorists, who were evil but not suicide bombers. It must remind of those old rows about whether the SAS should have killed that IRA team on their way to set off bombs (yes, they should). That’s all fine, if you like that sort of thing, for left-wing fringe meetings at Labour conference in 1986. It is not fine for someone auditioning for the role of Prime Minister at a time when the West faces ISIS.


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This is not merely a question of Corbyn trashing what is left of Labour’s electability. Labour MPs have a patriotic duty to remove Corbyn as soon as possible for a more important reason. Britain needs a serious opposition party and potential alternative government to hold the current administration to account, particularly at a time when worried ministers understandably want to appropriate more power for the State. Corbyn is a bad joke which means democratic oversight is weakened and the country is weaker, because Labour is led by a man who can be justifiably dismissed as an idiot for not understanding why ‎it is right to shoot to kill armed ISIS terrorists engaged in the act of blowing us up.



Dear Labour please remove this idiot.


The man is the biggest turn off in UK Politics and makes one ashamed to be an Englishman. The idiot is a would be wannabe PM for goodness sake. Does he really think that warm words will make these Monsters love us and lay down their arms?

^ Scared!

;D
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Osborne is just too ambitious and un-likeable....Hope he doesn't get the crown, given that I think we may be in for another Tory government.
Corbyn has a bit of integrity.....but I can't see him running the county or galvanising enough support to be elected outright.
His recent comments don't even have the support of his own party.

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^ Scared!

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Horrified is the word.
Seriously... much better politicians in the Labour party.

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Nov 17 2015, 06:13 PM
Why is he then doing so well at PMQs?

I really don't get this fake complacency. Has he not rattled Cam many times?

Has he not laid out an old labour style dem soc mandate?

He is only as incompetent as all other leaders over the past 3-4 govts, yes that's correct he isn't the charlatan; Cam is.

If the EU reform bsing catastrophic joke show was not serial & utter incompetence please do tell me what is. Not bowing to the queen? Corb's choice of bicycle?

I am not likely to vote Labour but I can sure as hell call out the Tories for the clowns that they are, what a pity their supporters are only slowly beginning to realise.
Just for the sake of debate, if Mr Corbyn was the present PM, would you as a UK citizen feel safe with his policies?...do not be shy, a simple yes or no will suffice, I do expect a rational answer, however, if you do answer yes, then I would expect you to explain why.
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Nov 18 2015, 01:55 AM
skwirked
Nov 17 2015, 06:13 PM
Why is he then doing so well at PMQs?

I really don't get this fake complacency. Has he not rattled Cam many times?

Has he not laid out an old labour style dem soc mandate?

He is only as incompetent as all other leaders over the past 3-4 govts, yes that's correct he isn't the charlatan; Cam is.

If the EU reform bsing catastrophic joke show was not serial & utter incompetence please do tell me what is. Not bowing to the queen? Corb's choice of bicycle?

I am not likely to vote Labour but I can sure as hell call out the Tories for the clowns that they are, what a pity their supporters are only slowly beginning to realise.
Just for the sake of debate, if Mr Corbyn was the present PM, would you as a UK citizen feel safe with his policies?...do not be shy, a simple yes or no will suffice, I do expect a rational answer, however, if you do answer yes, then I would expect you to explain why.
I don't know, that's the honest answer; probably not.

But do I feel safe with Cam in charge? No, definitely not. I doubt any of the serially incompetent prospective leaders of any party ought to inspire anyone to feel safe.

Do you feel safe under Cam?
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Nov 17 2015, 10:28 PM
RJD
Nov 17 2015, 06:07 PM
Affa
Nov 17 2015, 02:55 PM
Of course if any of this were true the Tories would be giving him the OK.
It is all true, best you wake up to the fact that the man is serially incompetent and a fool. If you want to follow such fools be my guest, but expect to find yourself in a dwindling number of believers. The man is so obviously out of his depth that one feels sorry for him.

Is it George Osborne being referred to? Sure reads like it!

Must be Giddie, for he is the most incompetent one of the lot in British Politics.
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I see the man of integrity has had his mind changed by his own tribe. What sort of integrity is this? He is just another Politician who will bend to suit circumstances. Trouble is to make him acceptable to Joe Voter he will probably have to give up on all of his life long positions, those he held when he was a nonentity. Now he is the Leader of the Nonentity Party.

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Corbyn isn't a fool, but he simply is an anachronism. He was elected by a combination of a foreseeable loophole in Milibands £3 membership deal, and the machinations of the hard left; who are never slow to spot an opportunity, and to exploit a weakness. He doesn't have wide support from labour MPs, or the mainstream Labour party, and his views on a wide range of topics, while pleasing to the Livingstone's of this world, have little support in the real world. Labour really have to wake up if they want to win the next election. With Jezza as leader, that is most unlikely.
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‘Hasn’t it come to something when the leader of the opposition thinks that the police, when confronted by a Kalashnikov-waving terrorist isn’t sure what the reaction should be?’ At that point, the Labour front bench just looked utterly dejected and beaten. They will soon have to decide how much longer they can let this farce continue for. If they do not act soon, then the damage done to the Labour party might be irreversible.



He is a fool as he seems to believe that these monsters can be persuaded to obey our laws and behave in a civilised manner. They only understand one thing and that is the death they welcome.

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skwirked
Nov 18 2015, 05:22 AM
Rich
Nov 18 2015, 01:55 AM
skwirked
Nov 17 2015, 06:13 PM
Why is he then doing so well at PMQs?

I really don't get this fake complacency. Has he not rattled Cam many times?

Has he not laid out an old labour style dem soc mandate?

He is only as incompetent as all other leaders over the past 3-4 govts, yes that's correct he isn't the charlatan; Cam is.

If the EU reform bsing catastrophic joke show was not serial & utter incompetence please do tell me what is. Not bowing to the queen? Corb's choice of bicycle?

I am not likely to vote Labour but I can sure as hell call out the Tories for the clowns that they are, what a pity their supporters are only slowly beginning to realise.
Just for the sake of debate, if Mr Corbyn was the present PM, would you as a UK citizen feel safe with his policies?...do not be shy, a simple yes or no will suffice, I do expect a rational answer, however, if you do answer yes, then I would expect you to explain why.
I don't know, that's the honest answer; probably not.

But do I feel safe with Cam in charge? No, definitely not. I doubt any of the serially incompetent prospective leaders of any party ought to inspire anyone to feel safe.

Do you feel safe under Cam?
No, I cannot say that I feel safe in the same context that I do not feel threatened, Cameron has not really been tested yet where warfare is concerned, however, he is, imo, the lesser of two dilemmas where risk is concerned and is more likely to be respected on the world stage compared to Mr Corbyn.
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Nov 18 2015, 08:02 PM

Cameron has not really been tested yet where warfare is concerned, however, he is, imo, the lesser of two dilemmas where risk is concerned and is more likely to be respected on the world stage compared to Mr Corbyn.

I think it fair to say that Cameron has not shone on the world stage in the same way Blair did, as Mrs T did. Neither do I share your opinion that he demands greater respect than would Corbyn were he in the PNM role. For the world to take notice and show interest in any Statesperson, that person has to be seen to be both 'in charge' and offering 'change' - something different - re; Blair & Thatcher.
On those counts Corbyn has it, DC does not.

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‘Hasn’t it come to something when the leader of the opposition thinks that the police, when confronted by a Kalashnikov-waving terrorist isn’t sure what the reaction should be?’ At that point, the Labour front bench just looked utterly dejected and beaten. They will soon have to decide how much longer they can let this farce continue for. If they do not act soon, then the damage done to the Labour party might be irreversible.



He is a fool as he seems to believe that these monsters can be persuaded to obey our laws and behave in a civilised manner. They only understand one thing and that is the death they welcome.

Biggest LOB ever.

You, like the rw media, are inventing fairytales and trying to make the sh1t stick to Corbyn. It is reprehensible behaviour.
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Nov 18 2015, 08:51 AM
I see the man of integrity has had his mind changed by his own tribe. What sort of integrity is this? He is just another Politician who will bend to suit circumstances. Trouble is to make him acceptable to Joe Voter he will probably have to give up on all of his life long positions, those he held when he was a nonentity. Now he is the Leader of the Nonentity Party.

You might be old enough to remember when the PM was considered a first among equals, no not Pitt the younger but the likes of post war PM's such as Attlee, Eden and Macmillan, who considered themselves as chairman of the board style figures where differences of opinion were not only tolerated but actually desirable for the democratic process.

Sadly during the reign of the dead witch we ended up with a presidential style of governance, and thus low quality sing from the same hymn sheet cardboard cut out politicians, so I can see why you are presently "confused" at the present state of the Labour party.

File under he looks like Albert Steptoe and the DT told me he eats babies.
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You have actually looked into Eden haven't you? Worst PM in my lifetime, in part because he just would not listen to others
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You have actually looked into Eden haven't you? Worst PM in my lifetime, in part because he just would not listen to others
Arrogant without a doubt, he thought the US would learn to understand why Britain joined in the invasion of Egypt, after he'd had a quiet word with Eisenhower. A monumental misjudgement as it turned out.

Perhaps the chairman of the board comparison missed a beat with Eden! ;D
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He's one of those snotty little whiney lefty students one first encountered as a fresher, terribly ideologically misguided (All the young ones wrapped up in one). I guess with age he's lost the bully boy element, or is it simmering away? Surely the party self esteem must see him off soon.
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Nov 18 2015, 08:28 PM
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Nov 18 2015, 08:02 PM

Cameron has not really been tested yet where warfare is concerned, however, he is, imo, the lesser of two dilemmas where risk is concerned and is more likely to be respected on the world stage compared to Mr Corbyn.

I think it fair to say that Cameron has not shone on the world stage in the same way Blair did, as Mrs T did. Neither do I share your opinion that he demands greater respect than would Corbyn were he in the PNM role. For the world to take notice and show interest in any Statesperson, that person has to be seen to be both 'in charge' and offering 'change' - something different - re; Blair & Thatcher.
On those counts Corbyn has it, DC does not.

How very true. Scameron must rank as the worst PM in living memory. Completely useless he is and a non-entity to boot, along with the rest of his rotten party.
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You have actually looked into Eden haven't you? Worst PM in my lifetime, in part because he just would not listen to others
There's been one worse than him for not listening to others Steve.
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Nov 18 2015, 08:02 PM

Cameron has not really been tested yet where warfare is concerned, however, he is, imo, the lesser of two dilemmas where risk is concerned and is more likely to be respected on the world stage compared to Mr Corbyn.

I think it fair to say that Cameron has not shone on the world stage in the same way Blair did, as Mrs T did. Neither do I share your opinion that he demands greater respect than would Corbyn were he in the PNM role. For the world to take notice and show interest in any Statesperson, that person has to be seen to be both 'in charge' and offering 'change' - something different - re; Blair & Thatcher.
On those counts Corbyn has it, DC does not.

Yes he offers appeasement. He does not seem to care, maybe he does not even think about it but whilst he is attempting to persuade Monsters to give up their guns and bend to the international Laws wrt to war crimes, they are out and about killing more innocents. This friend of Hamas of the IRA of Terrorists in general who he appears to consider must be "frredom fighters" has no time to think about the victims, he just wants to pin the blame on someone else. Yes he and Livingstone and their ilk think that the problems of the ME are due to the actions of the west. Pure bs, the same variety that makes him believe that individuals are not responsible for crimes as it is societies fault. Such crass stupidity is the bread and butter of the idiotic lefties who are totally blind to the harm that is done.

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Nov 19 2015, 09:44 AM

Yes he and Livingstone and their ilk think that the problems of the ME are due to the actions of the west. Pure bs, the same variety that makes him believe that individuals are not responsible for crimes as it is societies fault. Such crass stupidity is the bread and butter of the idiotic lefties who are totally blind to the harm that is done.


Yes; it would be stupid to blame Western society for the ME problem, when it is in fact megalomania and corporate greed vying for dominance over society that is at fault.
Friends of either, be they politicians or self serving economists, only make it more possible, nay more likely, that these troubles are perpetuated.


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Yes; it would be stupid to blame Western society for the ME problem, when it is in fact megalomania and corporate greed vying for dominance over society that is at fault.
Friends of either, be they politicians or self serving economists, only make it more possible, nay more likely, that these troubles are perpetuated.


If you get a chance and if it's on any i player thingy, watch Cameron's reaction on yesterdays PMQT, especially his body language when Corbyn suggested we stop banks and big business helping and profiteering by facilitating commerce with ISIS's supporters.

A few guilty secrets in the City without a doubt.........
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