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The Big Lie
Topic Started: Nov 20 2015, 05:11 PM (150 Views)
RJD
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The Big Lie: a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

Then why do Politicians across Europe and here in the UK, Home Secr, keep spouting the obvious baloney that "uncontrolled immigration and Islamist terrorism have nothing to do with each other? This is a fairy tale that we keep being told and are by now expected to tell the same story to ourselves.

Who was that chap stopped in Bavaria en route, from the Balkans to Paris a week before the recent massacre, with eight AK-47s and some TNT under his car’s bonnet? Was he on his way to collect a free Teddybear at Bon Marche?

Unless we, well our Politicians, stop deluding themselves then there will be no end to the problems visiting us in Europe under the banner of Islam. The truth is that far too many of that faith, here in Europe, sympathise with death-wish terrorism. Remember how after 9/11 and 7/7 and the Paris outrage early this year showed significant levels of sympathy and even more "don't know not yet made my mind up". Universities in the ME, so I am told, instruct Muslims that it is their duty to remove the infidel from Muslim lands, by force if necessary.

We need to stop the inane views perpetrated by idiots such as Corbyn, Livingstone and that Scottish Joker, that the west is to blame. For them there is no such thing as personal responsibility, society makes us and controls our hand. What utter tripe.
We need to see moderate Muslims stand up, be counted and shout loudly "not in our name". We need them to be totally intolerant of the extremists in their midst.

No doubt some idiot Politician, somewhere in the EU, will soon tell us that to claim there could be or are Muslim extremists among those migrants marching into Europe is pure racial bigotry. Racists and bigots should have their mouths stopped unless they conform to the Hans Anderson version of what is the truth.
Time to put the real truth on the table.
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Steve K
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RJD
Nov 20 2015, 05:11 PM
. . .Then why do Politicians across Europe and here in the UK, Home Secr, keep spouting the obvious baloney that "uncontrolled immigration and Islamist terrorism have nothing to do with each other? . .
Can you back that statement with a link please. Should be easy to find several IF they keep doing it.

Big word IF
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Tigger
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It looks to me as if the OP has already rolled over and raised the white flag.........
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It's too late now. Islam is here now in large, and ever increasing numbers. And the followers of the prophet are not good neighbours in the sense of integration and tolerance of their hosts views and mores. Multi-culturalism is their preferred way of existence. Alone of all the worlds main religions, only Islam preaches intolerance of other religions; intolerance to the point of active contempt. And if push ever comes to shove, their allegiance will be, and ever so, to their religion. And while not all Muslims are terrorists, it doesn't fill one with confidence when one reads that after the Charlie Hebdo attacks, some 27% of Muslims were of the opinion that the attack was justifiable.

I have the feeling that the invasion of the west by Islam is not unlike the cuckoo eyeing up the nest of the thrush. Cuckoos can't help what they do. It's in their genes. But, unlike us, the thrush doesn't invite it into its nest.
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"in its genes"

Ah so all Muslims are expansionist terrorist-condoners.

Honest Q: how much experience have you of Muslims .. ?
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Steve K
Nov 20 2015, 08:39 PM
RJD
Nov 20 2015, 05:11 PM
. . .Then why do Politicians across Europe and here in the UK, Home Secr, keep spouting the obvious baloney that "uncontrolled immigration and Islamist terrorism have nothing to do with each other? . .
Can you back that statement with a link please. Should be easy to find several IF they keep doing it.

Big word IF
Sorry Steve but they are out there in the Public Domain and I can point you in the right direction: start with the US Senator speech in Paris (think he was a Senator, he did represent the USA) then try Frau May at the HO, then go on to statements made by SPD Politicians in the German Press all in the last week. Then trawl all the way back to 9/11. I really do not know how you missed them? I am a bit too tired to do the homework for you today.
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skwirked
Nov 21 2015, 02:13 PM
"in its genes"

Ah so all Muslims are expansionist terrorist-condoners.

Honest Q: how much experience have you of Muslims .. ?
I do not think he was being dogmatic with the use of the word genes, but an unfortunate choice.
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RJD
Nov 21 2015, 05:12 PM
Steve K
Nov 20 2015, 08:39 PM
RJD
Nov 20 2015, 05:11 PM
. . .Then why do Politicians across Europe and here in the UK, Home Secr, keep spouting the obvious baloney that "uncontrolled immigration and Islamist terrorism have nothing to do with each other? . .
Can you back that statement with a link please. Should be easy to find several IF they keep doing it.

Big word IF
Sorry Steve but they are out there in the Public Domain and I can point you in the right direction: start with the US Senator speech in Paris (think he was a Senator, he did represent the USA) then try Frau May at the HO, then go on to statements made by SPD Politicians in the German Press all in the last week. Then trawl all the way back to 9/11. I really do not know how you missed them? I am a bit too tired to do the homework for you today.
Oh I think we can guess how I missed them



They never happened as you described
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Nov 21 2015, 11:51 PM
RJD
Nov 21 2015, 05:12 PM
Steve K
Nov 20 2015, 08:39 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIF they keep doing it.

Big word IF
Sorry Steve but they are out there in the Public Domain and I can point you in the right direction: start with the US Senator speech in Paris (think he was a Senator, he did represent the USA) then try Frau May at the HO, then go on to statements made by SPD Politicians in the German Press all in the last week. Then trawl all the way back to 9/11. I really do not know how you missed them? I am a bit too tired to do the homework for you today.
Oh I think we can guess how I missed them



They never happened as you described
Meanwhile, five days after the slaughter, the world's leading Islamic scholars have weighed in:

The leader of France's Parti de Gauche, Jean-Luc Mélenchon:

This has nothing to do with Islam!

US Secretary of State John Kerry:

It has nothing to do with Islam.

British Home Secretary Theresa May:

The attacks have nothing to do with Islam.

The children's section of the French newspaper Libération:

Their acts have nothing to do with this religion.

The head of the Georgian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Ilia II:

The Islamic has nothing to do with it.

Debt-relief activist and world-renowned imam Bono:

It's nothing to do with Islam.

Why they ask the opinion of an idiot Rockstar is beyond me.

I was very tired yesterday so could not do the research for you, but the above is a starting point for you to discover the information you missed.LINK

That link has embedded links such as:

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Left reformist leader of the Parti de Gauche, Jean-Luc Mélenchon, whatever his faults, has done excellent interviews on the television. “Don’t let them divide us by religion, because no religion is guilty in these events”, he insisted. “[T]he hate we have to fight is the hate they want to put between us … this has nothing to do with Islam!” He has also criticised the State of Emergency.


There is plenty more out there going all the way back to 9/11.



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Your supposition was they'd all said "uncontrolled immigration and Islamist terrorism have nothing to do with each other"

Your link and quotes do not back that at all
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