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Tom Watson Apology
Topic Started: Oct 22 2015, 03:00 PM (279 Views)
Affa
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Tom Watson has apologised to the widow of Lord Brittan for repeating the description he was given by one of his (Lord Brittan) accusers ("close to evil"). He "regrets" having done so, regrets the upset it has caused for his family.
David Cameron said he must go further and "examine his conscience about whether he's said enough so far" and said he had "a lot of questions to answer"

Will David Cameron apologise for describing J Corbyn as "a threat to our national security, our economic security and your family's security"?
When politics are the reason for such exchanges being made, criticisms levelled, and posturing at play, shouldn't the PM be setting a good example of behaviour?

As an aside; if it were not for Tom Watson we would not know of the organised paedophile activities of the past, nor of the coverup involving the MET.
I understand that former MET officers have contacted TW detailing their own suspicions of a top level cover up and that there are currently 19 investigations ongoing regarding MET failures/corruption.
Hounding the Corbyn tribe is now a favourite sport of the National press .... hypocrites that they are.



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Nov 2 2015, 12:25 AM
"Files deleted, evidence mislaid, documents know about but not visible to anyone outside of a very small circle of people blah blah....................."

But where's your hard evidence? None of that ever happened clearly.

..In Richie Rich's echoplex.
I am not the one making claims, am I? I do not need to prove his innocence as you are the one that is tacitly saying he is guilty, a conglomeration of "incidents" may well point to the supposed allegations that you make but at the end of the day that is not hard evidence and amounts to a field of beans.......next armchair lawyer please.
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Can you refute any of the evidence provided so far?

Steve tried and it looks to me like he failed. No one has even attempted to refute the evidence I quoted a good few posts back.

Refute it if able.
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Nov 2 2015, 12:50 AM
Can you refute any of the evidence provided so far?

Steve tried and it looks to me like he failed. No one has even attempted to refute the evidence I quoted a good few posts back.

Refute it if able.
Do you not get it, I need do nothing as the man is innocent by default, for the very last time, if you have hard and undeniable evidence that Tom watson is right about Leon Brittan then go to the fucking police and tell them as we are just using up valuable time debating an alleged crime.
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Nov 2 2015, 12:50 AM
Can you refute any of the evidence provided so far?

Steve tried and it looks to me like he failed. No one has even attempted to refute the evidence I quoted a good few posts back.

Refute it if able.
Do you need me to repost post 149 in super large font then?

You clearly haven't read it



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Nov 1 2015, 01:05 PM
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Nov 1 2015, 11:24 AM
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Nov 1 2015, 12:38 AM

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Oh look evasion when asked a simple question. I think we all know why.

Lets ask again: should Tom Watson apologise to DCI Settle for screwing his career when Settle had acted correctly.

Yes or No will do, not some aimless waffle about wider matters
No he shouldn't is that plain enough? I wish to destroy no innocents just the bloody truth and a proper inquiry would be good..

https://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/dci-paul-settle-did-not-leak-vip-accuser-details/
But that's just a link to a junk blog with an overlong junk video

So seems you admit that Waton maliciously screwed a decent detective's caerer just because he wouldn't go along with framing a dying man. But you think that's nothing to apologise for

I wonder if you've worked out yet who leaked the identity of 'Jane' to the media leading her to endure subsequent persecution.

Edited by Steve K, Nov 2 2015, 01:07 AM.
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Can you refute any of the evidence provided so far?

Steve tried and it looks to me like he failed. No one has even attempted to refute the evidence I quoted a good few posts back.

Refute it if able.
Do you need me to repost post 149 in super large font then?

You clearly haven't read it



Clearly you haven't read posts:

(the reply) 152 then 156 181 187

Do I need to repeat them in ultra large font?

I already have font sizes turned up for my struggling eyes thanks. :P
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Nov 1 2015, 06:22 PM
"And yet better respected than those in this government's cabinet -"

According to whom?
Twitter for one.
But instead of questioning whether TW's efforts to force governments to investigate and prosecute wrong doings, in the press, in the elite circles, has been well received by the public and not so by the authorities, try to determine why he is being hounded by these same incompetent suspects of crimes against society.

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Nov 2 2015, 12:57 AM
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Can you refute any of the evidence provided so far?

Steve tried and it looks to me like he failed. No one has even attempted to refute the evidence I quoted a good few posts back.

Refute it if able.
Do you not get it, I need do nothing as the man is innocent by default, for the very last time, if you have hard and undeniable evidence that Tom watson is right about Leon Brittan then go to the fucking police and tell them as we are just using up valuable time debating an alleged crime.
That's a no then.

How do you prosecute dead politicians? Tips? Do you bury them in pet cemetary then slap on the cuffs at dawn?

Do you prosecute Blair because he was given a vague idea that child abuse might be going on but shut it down and did nothing about it? Is that prosecutable?
Edited by skwirked, Nov 2 2015, 01:17 AM.
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Nov 2 2015, 12:57 AM
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Nov 2 2015, 12:50 AM
Can you refute any of the evidence provided so far?

Steve tried and it looks to me like he failed. No one has even attempted to refute the evidence I quoted a good few posts back.

Refute it if able.
Do you not get it, I need do nothing as the man is innocent by default, for the very last time, if you have hard and undeniable evidence that Tom watson is right about Leon Brittan then go to the fucking police and tell them as we are just using up valuable time debating an alleged crime.
That's a no then.

How do you prosecute dead politicians? Tips? Do you bury them in pet cemetary then slap on the cuffs at dawn?

Do you prosecute Blair because he was given a vague idea that child abuse might be going on but shut it down and did nothing about it? Is that prosecutable?
As I remarked some time back, the evidence of a paedophile ring that some posters demand 'as proof' is hidden from us by the authorities charged with investigating these allegations. Others before Tom Watson have notified the authorities of these allegations, provided evidence, and that evidence has been lost ......... we cannot know what evidence there is because the authorities have kept it from us = a cover-up.
The bottom line is that children in care have been abused (or worse) and instead of leaving 'no stone unturned' as they should, they have buried the case under a pile of stones.
Why anyone is not outraged by this amazes me .........
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Nov 2 2015, 12:57 AM
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Nov 2 2015, 12:50 AM
Can you refute any of the evidence provided so far?

Steve tried and it looks to me like he failed. No one has even attempted to refute the evidence I quoted a good few posts back.

Refute it if able.
Do you not get it, I need do nothing as the man is innocent by default, for the very last time, if you have hard and undeniable evidence that Tom watson is right about Leon Brittan then go to the fucking police and tell them as we are just using up valuable time debating an alleged crime.
That's a no then.

How do you prosecute dead politicians? Tips? Do you bury them in pet cemetary then slap on the cuffs at dawn?

Do you prosecute Blair because he was given a vague idea that child abuse might be going on but shut it down and did nothing about it? Is that prosecutable?
I do believe that a certain Mr Savile was posthumously prosecuted despite him not being able to refute the claims of said victims.
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Likewise.

SOME of The evidence DID get documented however! By multiple sources!

There's the hard bloody proof..and the fact it got destroyed in sus circumstances is more hard proof than you could possibly need for christs sake.
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Nov 2 2015, 01:12 AM
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Nov 2 2015, 12:59 AM
skwirked
Nov 2 2015, 12:50 AM
Can you refute any of the evidence provided so far?

Steve tried and it looks to me like he failed. No one has even attempted to refute the evidence I quoted a good few posts back.

Refute it if able.
Do you need me to repost post 149 in super large font then?

You clearly haven't read it



Clearly you haven't read posts:

(the reply) 152 then 156 181 187

Do I need to repeat them in ultra large font?

I already have font sizes turned up for my struggling eyes thanks. :P
152 is just a ramble, your link in 156 backs my post not yours, 181 and 187 further go on about Cyril Smith and your amazing theory that Thatcher would go out of her way to protect a high profile member of her opposition.

About as likely as Mercedes giving Ferrari a head start every Grand Prix
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Likewise.

SOME of The evidence DID get documented however! By multiple sources!

There's the hard bloody proof..and the fact it got destroyed in sus circumstances is more hard proof than you could possibly need for christs sake.
Then please take your concerns to a court of law and demand that something be done on the "evidence" that you are able to lay before them.

Other than that let the topic die a fucking death until there are further developements.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deeppost 149 in super large font then?

You clearly haven't read it



Clearly you haven't read posts:

(the reply) 152 then 156 181 187

Do I need to repeat them in ultra large font?

I already have font sizes turned up for my struggling eyes thanks. :P
152 is just a ramble, your link in 156 backs my post not yours, 181 and 187 further go on about Cyril Smith and your amazing theory that Thatcher would go out of her way to protect a high profile member of her opposition.

About as likely as Mercedes giving Ferrari a head start every Grand Prix
My damning quotes from the paper which were emboldened are a 'ramble' are they? You deny that Clegg tried to hamper the investigation? And you deny that Thatcher saw the evidence because an unsub'd sentence in the paper sez so, in opposition to the evidence presented therein?

I think you are stuck. The other stuff is very damning indeed as I said; the MI5 file and Whips books evidence hasn't been contested by anyone. Nothing to do with Cyril.

And the Cyril allegation well senior figures admitted that MPs treated each other very well, it was like a closed club...and you deny this?
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The links you supplied showed Thatcher was aware of allegations
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You should have read some of the links provided on this thread...Where is your hard evidence proving there were no cover ups?
I do not need any evidence to prove innocence, evidence IS required to prove guilt.....now, has that finally sunk in yet?
I understand perfectly..The facts are that somewhere along the line with hundreds of reports and accusations there are ones that are true and this cover up extends to thatchers government the Met and M15. There are even links to where the CIA and Russia were collating the info for the usual "stored in case". There are links to Australian news reports that named names on many of thees who were accused when they were still alive but not one of them tried to clear their names.

Thatcher 'Turned Blind Eye' To Paedophile MPs

http://news.sky.com/story/1440761/thatcher-turned-blind-eye-to-paedophile-mps
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This is all a bit "If if's and but's were apples and nuts" to me. It's fully understandable to defend a man's right to innocence until proven guilty. My concern is that some people on here would not support a full and honest investigation into the matter. I don't find it acceptable to just sit back and say, "Oh well, that's that then" when it is obvious that what could be damning evidence has been "misplaced".
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It is too late for an apology anyway as the damage has been done and when shit is thrown it tends to stick, all Watson had to do was inform the proper authorities of his findings and let them do the rest, but no, he had to go and tell the whole world via Parliamentary privilege, I do hope that the media keeps a close eye on him and destroys his character when he steps out of line.
Your naivete has surpassed even your previous very low standards, If Watson had informed the "proper authorities" as had been done thirty years ago the following would have happened, again, the PM would have had the allegations hidden away, senior police officers would feign ignorance and sat on the allegations, the dossier would have ended up filed away again under the official secrets act and fuck all would have been done. The allegations are of the most serious nature with the potential to bring down a government and put establishment figures in the dock.

Only a total retard would expect that same establishment to come clean and instigate a serious and proper investigation, I'd suggest Watson knew full well what would happen if he had informed the "proper authorities" and instead got the whole thing out in the open to limit the opportunity to smear, delay and obstruct the quest for complete truth, in my opinion the bloke deserves a medal and should not apologise for anything until this sordid heap of Tory kiddy fiddling vileness is exposed. The true aim here aim is to bury these allegations under a pile of distortions and evasions and hope in true establishment style that it all quietly goes away.

And as before anyone starts shouting conspiracy theory I'd say given the amount of lost/deleted files, redacting, inertia, ham fisted investigation and faux outrage you'd have to be a conspiracy theorist to claim NOTHING untoward had been going on.
I never said that though did I, I am not so stupid as to make claims without having hard undeniable evidence to prove such claims, if you have such evidence other than hearsay and assumptions then you should be charged with "witholding evidence" and obstructing the law, in the light of that I would be inclined to keep my big fat gob shut over matters that you know SFA about and leave it to the people who can proceed legally.....IE, the police.


Fucking twat.
Just another lefty retard Rich who does not give a fig for evidence, his opinions are evidence enough for him. Not worth attempting to debate with such people their block heads are fixed on myths.

What is really telling in all this is the fact that Watson hid behind the shield of Westminster, surely if he was a man of honour and sure of the creditability of his information he would have made his claims as a citizen out on the street. The second thing is the manner which those that excuse Watson's disgusting behaviour use McCarthy style tactics to delude themselves, they do not delude those that can think and can spot their uncivilised stance. Pity we cannot exile this riff raff.

The most disgusting claims I have seen in many a year are:

"well he was not proven innocent was he".


and the Strawman that by not fingering Brittan one was/would-be in someway condoning pedophilia.

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I do not need any evidence to prove innocence, evidence IS required to prove guilt.....now, has that finally sunk in yet?
I understand perfectly..The facts are that somewhere along the line with hundreds of reports and accusations there are ones that are true and this cover up extends to thatchers government the Met and M15. There are even links to where the CIA and Russia were collating the info for the usual "stored in case". There are links to Australian news reports that named names on many of thees who were accused when they were still alive but not one of them tried to clear their names.

Thatcher 'Turned Blind Eye' To Paedophile MPs

http://news.sky.com/story/1440761/thatcher-turned-blind-eye-to-paedophile-mps
Those quotation marks are key. This is just another repeat of Danczuk's position.

Another key point from your link:

"the letter noted, the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) decided "there was no reasonable prospect of conviction".

So there was no basis for her to take any action against Smith or block any award nominated by an opposing party within their quota. It was up to Rochdale police to do their job, something they woefully failed to do.



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I never said that though did I, I am not so stupid as to make claims without having hard undeniable evidence to prove such claims, if you have such evidence other than hearsay and assumptions then you should be charged with "witholding evidence" and obstructing the law, in the light of that I would be inclined to keep my big fat gob shut over matters that you know SFA about and leave it to the people who can proceed legally.....IE, the police.


Fucking twat.
Just another lefty retard Rich who does not give a fig for evidence, his opinions are evidence enough for him. Not worth attempting to debate with such people their block heads are fixed on myths.

What is really telling in all this is the fact that Watson hid behind the shield of Westminster, surely if he was a man of honour and sure of the creditability of his information he would have made his claims as a citizen out on the street. The second thing is the manner which those that excuse Watson's disgusting behaviour use McCarthy style tactics to delude themselves, they do not delude those that can think and can spot their uncivilised stance. Pity we cannot exile this riff raff.

The most disgusting claims I have seen in many a year are:

"well he was not proven innocent was he".


and the Strawman that by not fingering Brittan one was/would-be in someway condoning pedophilia.

Are those on the right who want a full investigation into this whole sordid affair retards also in your eyes? Not of course as you are not qualified to to Analise others mental agility..
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I understand perfectly..The facts are that somewhere along the line with hundreds of reports and accusations there are ones that are true and this cover up extends to thatchers government the Met and M15. There are even links to where the CIA and Russia were collating the info for the usual "stored in case". There are links to Australian news reports that named names on many of thees who were accused when they were still alive but not one of them tried to clear their names.

Thatcher 'Turned Blind Eye' To Paedophile MPs

http://news.sky.com/story/1440761/thatcher-turned-blind-eye-to-paedophile-mps
Those quotation marks are key. This is just another repeat of Danczuk's position.

Another key point from your link:

"the letter noted, the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) decided "there was no reasonable prospect of conviction".

So there was no basis for her to take any action against Smith or block any award nominated by an opposing party within their quota. It was up to Rochdale police to do their job, something they woefully failed to do.



He is part of establishment.

And if you had read the link the investigation was taken away from the Rochdale police and they had to surrender all the case files..

But of course no rats to be smelt there then..
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He is part of establishment.

Yes of course you would say that. Again why would a Tory Attorney General lift a finger to protect a high profile member of the opposition? The answer of course is he would not

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And if you had read the link the investigation was taken away from the Rochdale police and they had to surrender all the case files...
No it does not.
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He is part of establishment.

Yes of course you would say that. Again why would a Tory Attorney General lift a finger to protect a high profile member of the opposition? The answer of course is he would not

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And if you had read the link the investigation was taken away from the Rochdale police and they had to surrender all the case files...
No it does not.
Sorry i will have to find the other one I had...My mistake and I apologise.
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The links you supplied showed Thatcher was aware of allegations
Right. And you contend that she endeavoured to thoroughly investigate them?

The other links are still even more damning imho.
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He is part of establishment.

Yes of course you would say that. Again why would a Tory Attorney General lift a finger to protect a high profile member of the opposition? The answer of course is he would not

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And if you had read the link the investigation was taken away from the Rochdale police and they had to surrender all the case files...
No it does not.
Sorry i will have to find the other one I had...My mistake and I apologise.
It's not rocket science why Attorney General didn't lift a finger as that would of opened up a hornets nest which would also swallow his own party..
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The links you supplied showed Thatcher was aware of allegations
Right. And you contend that she endeavoured to thoroughly investigate them?

The other links are still even more damning imho.
Anyone can make allegations. You've taken 'allegations' and extrapolated them to be that she saw proof. False logic but you're not alone in such.
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The links you supplied showed Thatcher was aware of allegations
Right. And you contend that she endeavoured to thoroughly investigate them?

The other links are still even more damning imho.
Anyone can make allegations. You've taken 'allegations' and extrapolated them to be that she saw proof. False logic but you're not alone in such.
Say I accept tour point.

Do you accept that she utterly failed to investigate the allegations?
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Sorry i will have to find the other one I had...My mistake and I apologise.
It's not rocket science why Attorney General didn't lift a finger as that would of opened up a hornets nest which would also swallow his own party..
I've seen more convincing logic
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Anyone can make allegations. You've taken 'allegations' and extrapolated them to be that she saw proof. False logic but you're not alone in such.
Say I accept tour point.

Do you accept that she utterly failed to investigate the allegations?
I accept that she didn't investigate. Why would she when she was told that the matter had already been investigated and the DPP had decided the allegations were not prosecutable?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31789827

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It's not rocket science why Attorney General didn't lift a finger as that would of opened up a hornets nest which would also swallow his own party..
I've seen more convincing logic
Post a link to it then
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I've seen more convincing logic
Post a link to it then
You could google flat earth society
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Say I accept tour point.

Do you accept that she utterly failed to investigate the allegations?
I accept that she didn't investigate. Why would she when she was told that the matter had already been investigated and the DPP had decided the allegations were not prosecutable?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31789827

Because she had a very good inkling as to what might be going on. The Lab and Tory MPs who have tried to force this out into the open over decades get my utmost praise and respect. She should have tried her best to find out what was going on, I know you reject my other link re Hayman but it seems clear to me that there was a cover-up going on; they wanted to avoid 'embarrasement' and sweep it under the carpet.

Look maybe she/others thought "oh most of the controversies center around 15-16 yr old boys and thats hardly a big deal", maybe they had no idea what the MPs/others were really capable of..or didn't want to know.....
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I accept that she didn't investigate. Why would she when she was told that the matter had already been investigated and the DPP had decided the allegations were not prosecutable?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31789827

Because she had a very good inkling as to what might be going on. The Lab and Tory MPs who have tried to force this out into the open over decades get my utmost praise and respect. She should have tried her best to find out what was going on, I know you reject my other link re Hayman but it seems clear to me that there was a cover-up going on; they wanted to avoid 'embarrasement' and sweep it under the carpet.

Look maybe she/others thought "oh most of the controversies center around 15-16 yr old boys and thats hardly a big deal", maybe they had no idea what the MPs/others were really capable of..or didn't want to know.....
I think you are in danger of being filed in Rosswell. So much conspiracy so little actual evidence. Is this not typical of the behaviour of latter day Witch-Hunters? Next you will be insisting that all Tories are ducked and if they do not admit whatever you lot think, or dream up, they are guilty of the drown the buggers.
Again first proof that a crime has been committed, then look for the guilty party(s). We cannot run a society on the basis of Red Nag myths and innuendo.




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"Again first proof that a crime has been committed, then look for the guilty party(s). We cannot run a society on the basis of Red Nag myths and innuendo."

I think you'll find we already do.

Welcome to modern neoliberal Britain.

PS: you've ignored all the evidence so far but what's new there? At least Steve isn't making long ranting unsubstantiated posts criticising those that attempt to see where the admittedly limited evidence leads.

File: up Thatcher's hairy dead arse
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There's been stuff all evidence so far from you. It's all been inuendo, wild extrapolation and the classic "they denied it so they must be guilty""
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"Again first proof that a crime has been committed, then look for the guilty party(s). We cannot run a society on the basis of Red Nag myths and innuendo."

I think you'll find we already do.

Welcome to modern neoliberal Britain.

PS: you've ignored all the evidence so far but what's new there? At least Steve isn't making long ranting unsubstantiated posts criticising those that attempt to see where the admittedly limited evidence leads.

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What evidence? What you put up would not even make it to a Court of Law. Is that not just the point?
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Just on the BBC (SE Today) another person broken by the false allegation industry

Google Geoff Long

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There's been stuff all evidence so far from you. It's all been inuendo, wild extrapolation and the classic "they denied it so they must be guilty""
I have shown you evidence that there was a cover-up which you continue to ignore.

So the MI5 file and the whips books evidence? Where's the lack of substance there then?

Remember: much of the stuff I quoted wasnt even from my own links. My links which I posted have got stuff-all responses.

There's a video re the whips book which you might want to watch.
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Nov 2 2015, 07:07 PM
There's been stuff all evidence so far from you. It's all been inuendo, wild extrapolation and the classic "they denied it so they must be guilty""
I have shown you evidence that there was a cover-up which you continue to ignore.

So the MI5 file and the whips books evidence? Where's the lack of substance there then?

Remember: much of the stuff I quoted wasnt even from my own links. My links which I posted have got stuff-all responses.

There's a video re the whips book which you might want to watch.
But unless the CP believes it will stand up in a Court of Law why should I take any notice of your unproven claims? I don't do conspiracy, I leave that for the Usuals.

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Steve K
Nov 2 2015, 07:07 PM
There's been stuff all evidence so far from you. It's all been inuendo, wild extrapolation and the classic "they denied it so they must be guilty""
I have shown you evidence that there was a cover-up which you continue to ignore.

So the MI5 file and the whips books evidence? Where's the lack of substance there then?

Remember: much of the stuff I quoted wasnt even from my own links. My links which I posted have got stuff-all responses.

There's a video re the whips book which you might want to watch.
But unless the CP believes it will stand up in a Court of Law why should I take any notice of your unproven claims? I don't do conspiracy, I leave that for the Usuals.

Your opinion is of little interest. It's pure unsubstantiated twaddle, refute the as-yet unchallenged links if able or continue wasting screen space and be ignored, your choice.
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