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French Muslims Speak Out; #NousSommesUnis
Topic Started: Nov 23 2015, 05:30 AM (785 Views)
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http://m.france24.com/en/20151121-french-muslims-plead-do-not-remain-deaf-dumb-blind-terrorism

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Bechmella, a resident of Venissieux, in Lyon, makes a plea to fellow Muslims: "I call on all the Muslims of France to protect our beautiful religion, to track down these impostors who pass as Muslims while killing people.”

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On Tuesday, the Muslim Students of France (EMF) released a video in which they expressed their emotion in the style of a poetry slam. "I am in pain for France, they wanted to weaken France, but they have strengthened the heart of the French"

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During an interview on FRANCE 24 TV on Wednesday, Chirani Mohamed, a former delegate of the Seine-Saint-Denis prefecture, echoed the call for Muslims to rally against fundamentalist terror.

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Dalil Boubakeur, rector of the Grand Mosque of Paris, on Monday expressed "solidarity", "dismay" and a "rejection of these unspeakable acts" that "targeted innocent victims". He called on imams Friday to participate in a solemn prayer "to show our compassion and share in the grief of the (victims’) families.” Boubakeur, former president of the French Council of the Muslim Faith (CFCM), reiterated the urgency of ensuring unity in times of collective pain. "We, the Muslims of France, stress the need for national unity, and together oppose this evil which attacks us indiscriminately…. We are all victims of this barbarity.”


Good. Now will the Intransigents applaud this or rant on about all Muslims being terrorists or condoners of such?
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There were front page headlines in one of our major Newspapers today which stated one in five British Muslims supported jihad. I see no reason why the same figure should not apply in other countries. It appears that a third of Muslims in the USA also support Jihad.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/23/poll-1-5-british-muslims

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3364081/posts?page=12 it would help if Muslim women in Britain discarded the Burka , and Muslim men stopped wearing their pyjamas in the streets as a gesture of solidarity with the rest of the UK


Not another guy who's worried about women's clothing?
I posted that Sun poll and we demolished the false implications it made.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://m.france24.com/en/20151121-french-muslims-plead-do-not-remain-deaf-dumb-blind-terrorismhttp://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/23/poll-1-5-british-muslims

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3364081/posts?page=12 it would help if Muslim women in Britain discarded the Burka , and Muslim men stopped wearing their pyjamas in the streets as a gesture of solidarity with the rest of the UK


Not another guy who's worried about women's clothing?
I posted that Sun poll and we demolished the false implications it made.
I just blanked that poll,not because it was in the SUN but it is comical
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There were front page headlines in one of our major Newspapers today which stated one in five British Muslims supported jihad. I see no reason why the same figure should not apply in other countries. It appears that a third of Muslims in the USA also support Jihad.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/23/poll-1-5-british-muslims

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3364081/posts?page=12 it would help if Muslim women in Britain discarded the Burka , and Muslim men stopped wearing their pyjamas in the streets as a gesture of solidarity with the rest of the UK


Not another guy who's worried about women's clothing?
Can't find data that backs up his contention "a third of us muslims support jihad", prob made that one up like everything else he posts.

And it would seem one poster here has something in common with the 'kneelers'. :) Not sure how that poster manages it though.
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Not seen anyone who fits that bill C2.

Glad you approve of the condemnations though.

You may find this interesting:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

It misses out the latest report:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf

""Islamist terrorists carried out three attacks on EU terri- tory. Separatist groups, on the other hand, were respon- sible for 160 attacks, while left-wing and anarchist groups were responsible for 45 attacks. One single-issue attack was reported from Greece.""

USA:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/


Yeah misleading figures eh.

However on closer inspection you'll see the other terror groups are both very small and generally not to be taken so seriously , the info is also dated.the loss of life they have incurred is tiny in comparison as well .Further it ignores the foiled attacks by Islamic extremists .50 odd since 7/7 and 7 since last decemver alone.

If you really want to think ioslam is just a minor player or not the main threat,feel free,i'm just glad your not in charge of our counter terrorism forces.
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I dont think Islamic terrorism is minor and I never suggested that.

"However on closer inspection you'll see the other terror groups are both very small and generally not to be taken so seriously , the info is also dated.the loss of life they have incurred is tiny in comparison as well .Further it ignores the foiled attacks by Islamic extremists .50 odd since 7/7 and 7 since last decemver alone."

Feel free to debunk with better stats.

What about foiled non Islamic attacks?

Can you prove your assertion about loss of life being tiny? C2 couldn't and I never stated a claim one way or the other.



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:facepalm: I have responded directly to nearly every point you have made.

What precise points do you want me to address? Quote them and I will address them.
:facepalm: :facepalm: My point is about the reliability of the website and the implications made by the website that you posted. Try reading the comments by the 'loonies' and see if you can question any of the comments made. If you cannot I will point them out for you.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: There are loads of comments on both articles. I only endorse the base claim: the majority of terror attacks [in the west] are non-muslim.

You accept that.

I do not endorse the other insinuations they make, I made this abundantly clear many posts back so what are you fretting about?
There is a difference between independent acts of sometimes so called terrorism and the single usually integrated world wide acts of violent terrorism basically arising from a single source, i.e. Islamism.
Your American list included vandalism and damage to property as terrorism !! :facepalm: You and the loonies are indulging in the usual misguiding nonsense, and for what ?

Your loony website infers that there is a problem with people believing all or most terrorists are Muslim. Their use of collecting all non-Muslim 'terrorism' is designed to create a delusional hook aimed at convincing people that there is an over concern about Islamist terrorism.
I have heard the saying that not all Muslims are terrorists, but most (not all) terrorists are Muslim, in terms of violent murdering terrorism that is a point I completely agree with. I have no doubt that most terrorists guilty of extreme terrorism around the world are Islamist. And people should not be encouraged to take their concerns away from that reality.

Those who would play down the Islamist problem may like to show the non-Islamist equivalents of;
9/11, the bombing of the embassy in Kenya, Al-Qaida, terrorist training camps, levels of radicalisation, the Taliban, Osama bin Laden, ISIS along with the many suicide bombing / destruction of holy places, night clubs, shopping centres, busses, trains and so on. World wide activity, and all done in the name of one single non-Muslim source ?

If they cannot then just perhaps they may begin to understand that they have an oranges and apples approach that only muddies the waters.
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Why don't you actually look into non-islamic terrorism though. You aren't interested are you?
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Why don't you actually look into non-islamic terrorism though. You aren't interested are you?
I think the different forms of terrorism deserve to be debated as different issues.
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I don't. In just one example anti-balaka massacred 1k people in just a day.

Do you understand the FBI graphic? Most of the incidents are't joke minor things most are bombings. that have killed people.

Why are you trying to shift goal posts and move away from the issue?

How dare you make insinuations that I condone or try to play down Islamic terror.
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I do actually think it is quite strange when we are debating the recent Islamic terror factions..and people say..''how about the non-Muslims terror?''

I think that may have been 70 years ago..

We are talking NOW!!!!
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All data linked is contemporary, earliest it harks back to is 1985.

See for yourself.

So far I have been told that in 20-4 80k attacks occurred of which 80k were Islamic. No proof no links nada.
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I don't. In just one example anti-balaka massacred 1k people in just a day.

Do you understand the FBI graphic? Most of the incidents are't joke minor things most are bombings. that have killed people.

Why are you trying to shift goal posts and move away from the issue?

How dare you make insinuations that I condone or try to play down Islamic terror.
So you are against all terrorism, well so am I.
I have experienced your confused form of debating where just about anything and everything is pulled into the debate, thus ensuring some satisfaction for yourself, but does absolutely nothing in terms of clarification and direction in a debate.
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I did nothing of the sort. This is my thread and I linked some data and said "this may interest" in a fairly benign cordial way.

Immediately you try and make insinuations by using the link to attack me, why exactly? No idea.
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Maybe we should ask these people how they feel about the ''shootings'' in Paris..

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/214086/french-city-40-muslim-population-most-dangerous-daniel-greenfield
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Not seen anyone who fits that bill C2.

Glad you approve of the condemnations though.

You may find this interesting:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

It misses out the latest report:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf

""Islamist terrorists carried out three attacks on EU terri- tory. Separatist groups, on the other hand, were respon- sible for 160 attacks, while left-wing and anarchist groups were responsible for 45 attacks. One single-issue attack was reported from Greece.""

USA:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

Well I guess that puts paid to the 'All Terrorists are Muslim' argument.

I welcome what is heard, I would greatly welcome seeing IS sympathisers shopped, the Mosques delivering the message called for, the desire to fully integrate ..... actions!
Until then, just as our own politicians say one thing, do the other, I remain sceptical.



Agreed, as they say... Actions, speak louder than words.

Still it is nice to 'finally' see 'some' Muslims getting their fingers out of their arses and actually being noticed in a good way...for a change.
When the remaining 80% of peaceful Muslims declare their support for a secular state, and to allow all to worship who they want and when they want, without threats to them. or a desire to decapitate the unbelievers, or to convert us into a sharia state. when they march the streets in unity condemning ISIS or the other warlike factions of their own religion, as they did in opposing Salman Rushdie and his Satanic verses, putting a fatwah on him. When they put a fatwah on their own murderers, then and only then will I believe that they do not intend to try to convert us all, and allow us to live in the peaceful and tolerant manner as we have done for many hundred of years without having to be concerned for our children's futures, or to put in place security measures to protect us from their intent.
The French have declared war on the militants, Cameron talks about war on the militants. let us hope that in the future it does not turn into an internal civil war with our own militant enemies within.

. Now what is 20% of 5 million, the percentage that support Jihad?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351251
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

It misses out the latest report:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf

""Islamist terrorists carried out three attacks on EU terri- tory. Separatist groups, on the other hand, were respon- sible for 160 attacks, while left-wing and anarchist groups were responsible for 45 attacks. One single-issue attack was reported from Greece.""

USA:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/actions!
Until then, just as our own politicians say one thing, do the other, I remain sceptical.



Agreed, as they say... Actions, speak louder than words.

Still it is nice to 'finally' see 'some' Muslims getting their fingers out of their arses and actually being noticed in a good way...for a change.
When the remaining 80% of peaceful Muslims declare their support for a secular state, and to allow all to worship who they want and when they want, without threats to them. or a desire to decapitate the unbelievers, or to convert us into a sharia state. when they march the streets in unity condemning ISIS or the other warlike factions of their own religion, as they did in opposing Salman Rushdie and his Satanic verses, putting a fatwah on him. When they put a fatwah on their own murderers, then and only then will I believe that they do not intend to try to convert us all, and allow us to live in the peaceful and tolerant manner as we have done for many hundred of years without having to be concerned for our children's futures, or to put in place security measures to protect us from their intent.
The French have declared war on the militants, Cameron talks about war on the militants. let us hope that in the future it does not turn into an internal civil war with our own militant enemies within.

. Now what is 20% of 5 million, the percentage that support Jihad?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351251
Did them march on the UK streets about Rushdie.
When you mention 5 million,why did you just put the link up,and not the fact that's years and years away,if of course that happens
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Is that 20% jihadi figure more spin Tyto. Link?

Feel free to ignore and avoid. !wav!

By the way a jihad and *fatwa has been declared against IS.

*by some.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

It misses out the latest report:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf

""Islamist terrorists carried out three attacks on EU terri- tory. Separatist groups, on the other hand, were respon- sible for 160 attacks, while left-wing and anarchist groups were responsible for 45 attacks. One single-issue attack was reported from Greece.""

USA:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/actions!
When the remaining 80% of peaceful Muslims declare their support for a secular state, and to allow all to worship who they want and when they want, without threats to them. or a desire to decapitate the unbelievers, or to convert us into a sharia state. when they march the streets in unity condemning ISIS or the other warlike factions of their own religion, as they did in opposing Salman Rushdie and his Satanic verses, putting a fatwah on him. When they put a fatwah on their own murderers, then and only then will I believe that they do not intend to try to convert us all, and allow us to live in the peaceful and tolerant manner as we have done for many hundred of years without having to be concerned for our children's futures, or to put in place security measures to protect us from their intent.
The French have declared war on the militants, Cameron talks about war on the militants. let us hope that in the future it does not turn into an internal civil war with our own militant enemies within.

. Now what is 20% of 5 million, the percentage that support Jihad?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351251
Did them march on the UK streets about Rushdie.
When you mention 5 million,why did you just put the link up,and not the fact that's years and years away,if of course that happens
Ah but Muslims..(who are our current aggressors!) do like to bring back wars that happened 70..200..300 years ago..

We are talking NOW!!!.. !wav!

Murder in the streets..bombings of innocent people who don't give a tinkers cuss about Islam or their perversions..

They are coming here to attack us.

What would you do??
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So many posts on this thread and yet, such little substance.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

It misses out the latest report:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf

""Islamist terrorists carried out three attacks on EU terri- tory. Separatist groups, on the other hand, were respon- sible for 160 attacks, while left-wing and anarchist groups were responsible for 45 attacks. One single-issue attack was reported from Greece.""

USA:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/actions!
When the remaining 80% of peaceful Muslims declare their support for a secular state, and to allow all to worship who they want and when they want, without threats to them. or a desire to decapitate the unbelievers, or to convert us into a sharia state. when they march the streets in unity condemning ISIS or the other warlike factions of their own religion, as they did in opposing Salman Rushdie and his Satanic verses, putting a fatwah on him. When they put a fatwah on their own murderers, then and only then will I believe that they do not intend to try to convert us all, and allow us to live in the peaceful and tolerant manner as we have done for many hundred of years without having to be concerned for our children's futures, or to put in place security measures to protect us from their intent.
The French have declared war on the militants, Cameron talks about war on the militants. let us hope that in the future it does not turn into an internal civil war with our own militant enemies within.

. Now what is 20% of 5 million, the percentage that support Jihad?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351251
Did them march on the UK streets about Rushdie.
When you mention 5 million,why did you just put the link up,and not the fact that's years and years away,if of course that happens
In Britain on 2 December 1988, 7,000 Muslims in the town of Bolton staged the first ever demonstration against the Satanic Verses. After the Friday prayers, a certain section of the congregation marched from the Zakariyya Jame Masjid to the town centre and then burned the book. The organisers claimed "It was a peaceful protest, and we burned the book to try and attract public attention".[26]
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Why don't you actually look into non-islamic terrorism though. You aren't interested are you?
I think the different forms of terrorism deserve to be debated as different issues.
Exactly we cannot use one situation to excuse another.

ISIL have made their objectives and strategies clear.
There is a significant degree of support for such ISIL actions in the UK Muslim Community for us to be very concerned.
There is a high degree of resistance within the UK Muslim Community to any involvement in the air or on the ground against ISIl for us to be very concerned.
The is a significant number of people here in the UK that believe there is no direct link between the Muslim Religion and the actions of ISIL for us to be very concerned, especially when those that speak on behalf of such claim otherwise.

I do not believe that bombing ISIL will win any propaganda war as it is inevitable that there will be what we sanitise as Collateral Damage.
I do not believe that western boots filled with western feet, on the ground in Iraq or Syria, will be effective as it will only create more martyrs for the ISIL cause.

But we can lean on others (Saudi) to up their oil production and encourage others not to purchase any oil that is pumped out under the name of ISIL.
It is said that ISIL have a £2b cash reserve. Where is this, which Banks?
Then we must put pressure on ME countries to clear out this nest of Vipers and yes Putin is right our enemies enemy is our friend for the moment and we do need to align ourself with the Russian strategy. I would go as far as saying we should let Russia take the lead. That said I would not object to RAF laser guided bombs destroying ISIL convoys in Syria or Iraq.
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How bloody stupid "we can guide saudi".

Just. :facepalm:
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Meanwhile over on the "should all British Muslims be scared" thread, a poster has advocated the "extermination" of all muslims.

I assume that all of you calling for muslims to condemn the extremists on their community will be making their way over to said thread to condemn this extremist immediately. Be rather hypocritical of you if you didn't wouldn't it?
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Meanwhile over on the "should all British Muslims be scared" thread, a poster has advocated the "extermination" of all muslims.

I assume that all of you calling for muslims to condemn the extremists on their community will be making their way over to said thread to condemn this extremist immediately. Be rather hypocritical of you if you didn't wouldn't it?
No they are atheistic westerner europeans and they say we are forrin muck so best accept whatever they say as total (christian not christian) gospel.
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I did nothing of the sort. This is my thread and I linked some data and said "this may interest" in a fairly benign cordial way.

Immediately you try and make insinuations by using the link to attack me, why exactly? No idea.
French Muslims Speak Out

You introduced data that was originally designed to dilute anxiety over Islamism. That is what the website was about and you continued its theme. You continued even after the subjective nature of the site was pointed out.

I have quite reasonably attacked your form of debating pointing out how you have more than once managed to muddy the waters through the introduction of unrelated comments. Your thread is about Muslims being publicly active against Islamism, not about vandalism in the US, or terrorism by non-Islamists.
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Ah so now you have found my agenda inspector closeau.

So am I an Islamist with an axe to grind or just an out n out IS terrorist?
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Ah so now you have found my agenda inspector closeau.

So am I an Islamist with an axe to grind or just an out n out IS terrorist?
Your lucky I got called an ISIS supporter maybe even a activist
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Ah so now you have found my agenda inspector closeau.

So am I an Islamist with an axe to grind or just an out n out IS terrorist?
Your lucky I got called an ISIS supporter maybe even a activist
I have been called a refugee, pedofile terrorist lol.

It makes me laugh when they try their best to insult and insinuate.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

It misses out the latest report:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf

""Islamist terrorists carried out three attacks on EU terri- tory. Separatist groups, on the other hand, were respon- sible for 160 attacks, while left-wing and anarchist groups were responsible for 45 attacks. One single-issue attack was reported from Greece.""

USA:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/actions!http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351251
Did them march on the UK streets about Rushdie.
When you mention 5 million,why did you just put the link up,and not the fact that's years and years away,if of course that happens
In Britain on 2 December 1988, 7,000 Muslims in the town of Bolton staged the first ever demonstration against the Satanic Verses. After the Friday prayers, a certain section of the congregation marched from the Zakariyya Jame Masjid to the town centre and then burned the book. The organisers claimed "It was a peaceful protest, and we burned the book to try and attract public attention".[26]
A peaceful protest and March to see a book being burned
But didn't you say all Muslims were not peacefull or nice people
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You blokes make me laugh..none of you have ever lived in Paris..or Marseilles..and yet you all know what is going on in France..

It was going on a long time before ISIS was invented..
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Nov 24 2015, 04:27 PM
Ah so now you have found my agenda inspector closeau.

So am I an Islamist with an axe to grind or just an out n out IS terrorist?
Your lucky I got called an ISIS supporter maybe even a activist
I have been called a refugee, pedofile terrorist lol.

It makes me laugh when they try their best to insult and insinuate.
Dammit,,I havnt been called any of those things,,,,,yet
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marybrown
Nov 24 2015, 04:58 PM
You blokes make me laugh..none of you have ever lived in Paris..or Marseilles..and yet you all know what is going on in France..

It was going on a long time before ISIS was invented..
You know this how exactly?

Psychic?
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skwirked
Nov 24 2015, 05:03 PM
marybrown
Nov 24 2015, 04:58 PM
You blokes make me laugh..none of you have ever lived in Paris..or Marseilles..and yet you all know what is going on in France..

It was going on a long time before ISIS was invented..
You know this how exactly?

Psychic?
No Swirked..I..will ..say..this..slowly..

I have lived in these places..

Have you?..

No..thought not.. !wav!
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Thanks.

Do you understand what you write?
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HIGHWAY
Nov 24 2015, 04:56 PM
Tytoalba
Nov 24 2015, 03:18 PM
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Nov 24 2015, 03:06 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

It misses out the latest report:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf

""Islamist terrorists carried out three attacks on EU terri- tory. Separatist groups, on the other hand, were respon- sible for 160 attacks, while left-wing and anarchist groups were responsible for 45 attacks. One single-issue attack was reported from Greece.""

USA:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/actions!http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351251
In Britain on 2 December 1988, 7,000 Muslims in the town of Bolton staged the first ever demonstration against the Satanic Verses. After the Friday prayers, a certain section of the congregation marched from the Zakariyya Jame Masjid to the town centre and then burned the book. The organisers claimed "It was a peaceful protest, and we burned the book to try and attract public attention".[26]
A peaceful protest and March to see a book being burned
But didn't you say all Muslims were not peacefull or nice people
No
There does seem to be a tendency to misinterpret another post to suit ones own agenda. I have no desire to harm anyone or to threaten anyone, but like many in France and Belgium, I am beginning to feel threatened in Britain, by the adherents of a particular religion. The Government keeps saying threats are imminent and we should all be on our guard, and that they have prevented a number of terrorist attacks already.
The question that has to be answered is "Who is for and who is against", and unless the against terrorism state their position especially amongst the Muslim population, then there will be the suspicion that they are supportive of the Muslim intent to convert us all and by any means.
Threaten us or our way of life and there may well be a reaction
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Ty, your last line sounds like a thinly veiled threat to me. If you want to feel safer and see the situation diffused, maybe you should start with the man in the mirror.
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Happy Hornet
Nov 24 2015, 07:26 PM
Ty, your last line sounds like a thinly veiled threat to me. If you want to feel safer and see the situation diffused, maybe you should start with the man in the mirror.
Don't say ,,,man in the mirror,,,that's a famous Michael Jackson son who apparently wad becoming a Muslim before his death,
He wouldn't be associated with any of hid songs
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I can see why the frightened and ignorant blamed the Jews for bubonic plague.
The scared and cowardly need a scapegoat to project their fear and hatred.
Anyone who cannot see that the Islamic fundies are the common enemy of Christians/secular people and moderate Muslims are part of the problem not the solution.
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Warning: bloody moronic twatheads replying..
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Happy Hornet
Nov 24 2015, 07:26 PM
Ty, your last line sounds like a thinly veiled threat to me. If you want to feel safer and see the situation diffused, maybe you should start with the man in the mirror.
Can I quote Shakespeare.

If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not
revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will
resemble you in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian,
what is his humility? Revenge. If a Christian
wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance be by
Christian example? Why, revenge. The villainy you
teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard, but I
will better the instruction.
That seems to be the trend of human nature . We react to provocation and threats. What do you expect?
Just who is threatening who?
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