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A discussion about days spent in Egypt; split from Muslims thread
Topic Started: Nov 21 2015, 12:09 PM (225 Views)
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Nov 21 2015, 08:01 AM
PV, the problem is there is also a great deal of homophobia and misogyny from non-Muslims as well and quite often (and I'm not saying this applies to you) they are the same people berating Islam for being homophobic or misogynistic. In short they only care about equality when it suits them.


My first year in Egypt 14 homosexuals were hung in Cairo,and Egypt is moderate,haven't seen that done in the UK recently.
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Nov 21 2015, 08:01 AM
PV, the problem is there is also a great deal of homophobia and misogyny from non-Muslims as well and quite often (and I'm not saying this applies to you) they are the same people berating Islam for being homophobic or misogynistic. In short they only care about equality when it suits them.


My first year in Egypt 14 homosexuals were hung in Cairo,and Egypt is moderate,haven't seen that done in the UK recently.
Of. Course the difference is in the UK there is no hanging or other capital punishment
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Nov 21 2015, 12:09 PM


My first year in Egypt 14 homosexuals were hung in Cairo,and Egypt is moderate,haven't seen that done in the UK recently.
Not true, I've searched for this and found absolutely nothing that backs your claim up. Amnesty international, zilch.

In short you made it up.
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Nov 21 2015, 10:28 PM


I'm not the slightest bit confused ,umfortunately you don't have any understanding of this subject,so it's impossible to have any sort of reaoned debate with you about it,end of.
So what about this made up story of 14 homos being hanged in Egypt in 1999?

I understand FACTS, how about you? Any more ridiculous claims in the wings to spice up your untruthful ramblings?

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Stonefish, I had a look for the hanging in Egypt and could find no mention of such. I have seen reports of killings of homos in Egypt before, however it's unclear how complicit the state has been in such.

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Nov 21 2015, 10:41 PM
Stonefish, I had a look for the hanging in Egypt and could find no mention of such. I have seen reports of killings of homos in Egypt before, however it's unclear how complicit the state has been in such.



Your right ,having looked,there doesn't appear to be any mention ;I know not why because I can assure you I was in the country working there ,and it was plastered all over the tv and newspapers .It happened alright,the only thing I may have gotten wrong is the year,it may have been a year or two later. I've seen reports from 2001 of 53 being tried,i don't think that's related.I can assure you it was state sanctioned ,full trial,hung in Egypt,it may be they were convicted of other charges so as to lessen /avoid international attention.
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Nov 21 2015, 10:39 PM
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Nov 21 2015, 10:28 PM


I'm not the slightest bit confused ,umfortunately you don't have any understanding of this subject,so it's impossible to have any sort of reaoned debate with you about it,end of.
So what about this made up story of 14 homos being hanged in Egypt in 1999?

I understand FACTS, how about you? Any more ridiculous claims in the wings to spice up your untruthful ramblings?



This from the gentleman who equates Anders Breivik's crime with those of jihadists and secular attacks by multi faith countries in the same way.

And someone with little to no understanding of Islam or the muslim faith,whose only experience was seeing a muslim walking down Oxford street about 5 years ago.

Hilarious!
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I imagine such reports would be buried away on obscure Arabic-only archives on Egyptian news channels.

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Nov 22 2015, 12:15 AM


Your right ,having looked,there doesn't appear to be any mention ;I know not why because I can assure you I was in the country working there ,and it was plastered all over the tv and newspapers .It happened alright,the only thing I may have gotten wrong is the year,it may have been a year or two later. I've seen reports from 2001 of 53 being tried,i don't think that's related.I can assure you it was state sanctioned ,full trial,hung in Egypt,it may be they were convicted of other charges so as to lessen /avoid international attention.
Nope!

What you described has never happened, not even close. Urban myth of your own making I'm afraid.

Egypt does not/has not executed people for being homosexual and that is all there is to it.
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Nov 22 2015, 12:38 AM
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Nov 22 2015, 12:15 AM


Your right ,having looked,there doesn't appear to be any mention ;I know not why because I can assure you I was in the country working there ,and it was plastered all over the tv and newspapers .It happened alright,the only thing I may have gotten wrong is the year,it may have been a year or two later. I've seen reports from 2001 of 53 being tried,i don't think that's related.I can assure you it was state sanctioned ,full trial,hung in Egypt,it may be they were convicted of other charges so as to lessen /avoid international attention.
Nope!

What you described has never happened, not even close. Urban myth of your own making I'm afraid.

Egypt does not/has not executed people for being homosexual and that is all there is to it.


Yep,they did ,and I should add I'm a great supporter of Egypt ,I have no reason to lie ,I was there and I saw it so stick it where the sun don't shine mate.oh and do learn to read.
Edited by Stonefish, Nov 22 2015, 09:50 AM.
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Let's face it all muslims and their sympathisers are scum,scum of the earth and should all be exreminated,every single last one of them.I don't care if they are innocent or not,the only goos muslim is a dead one as far as I'm concerned.
I think the majority on here already knee you felt like that,no idea why you denied it earlier.


I know ,I don't know why either,i mean,i never spent 5 years in Egypt and I never had friends there like Safwat,or mohammed Gouna, and deafinitely not the Rasheed family.

All muslims are bastards as far as I'm concerned,and let face it your an ISIS supporter aren't you,maybe even an activist.
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Let's face it all muslims and their sympathisers are scum,scum of the earth and should all be exreminated,every single last one of them.I don't care if they are innocent or not,the only goos muslim is a dead one as far as I'm concerned.
I think the majority on here already knee you felt like that,no idea why you denied it earlier.


I know ,I don't know why either,i mean,i never spent 5 years in Egypt and I never had friends there like Safwat,or mohammed Gouna, and deafinitely not the Rasheed family.

All muslims are bastards as far as I'm concerned,and let face it your an ISIS supporter aren't you,maybe even an activist.
Bizarre ,your saying you lived in Egypt,had friends there,(mentioned how gays were hung,,even although you were told you made that up)
That you want all Muslims killed even the innocent ones.
Now your saying am an ISIS supporter maybe an activist.
Don't worry the men in white coats will be taking you for your medicine soon
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Nov 24 2015, 11:45 AM

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I know ,I don't know why either,i mean,i never spent 5 years in Egypt and I never had friends there like Safwat,or mohammed Gouna, and deafinitely not the Rasheed family.

All muslims are bastards as far as I'm concerned,and let face it your an ISIS supporter aren't you,maybe even an activist.
Bizarre ,your saying you lived in Egypt,had friends there,(mentioned how gays were hung,,even although you were told you made that up)
That you want all Muslims killed even the innocent ones.
Now your saying am an ISIS supporter maybe an activist.
Don't worry the men in white coats will be taking you for your medicine soon


Oh dear,well I have to be carefull as Steve K is ...doing his job. I thought I said I wasn't in Egypt for 5 years and didn't have any friends there,can't win can I,dear oh dear.

Are you not a supporter of ISIS then?

BTW I am the man in the white coat .
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Nov 24 2015, 10:22 PM
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Nov 24 2015, 12:02 PM


All muslims are bastards as far as I'm concerned,and let face it your an ISIS supporter aren't you,maybe even an activist.
Takes one to know one apparently! ;D

You often claim to know a lot about the ME and Arab types in particular, and yet all you offer here is bigotry and frankly stories that fall apart at the merest prod.


Oh ive got an offer for you ...as you always tell me im lying about my time in the ME etc,how about I give you a few contacts you can cross refrence with and if they confirm my claims,your then disappear from this site never ever to rear you ugly orrible head again.sounds reasonable?
Edited by Stonefish, Nov 24 2015, 10:28 PM.
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Oh ive got an offer for you ...as you always tell me im lying about my time in the ME etc,how about I give you a few contacts you can cross refrence with and if they confirm my claims,your then disappear from this site never ever to rear you ugly orrible head again.sounds reasonable?
In regards to those 14 homosexuals being hanged in Egypt in 1999?

Go for it!
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Nov 24 2015, 10:48 PM

No,you know what I mean big mouth ,in regards to my living in Egypt for 5 years....agreed you little spineless prick? :)
But I never said I didn't believe you lived in Egypt did I?

It's just that when you relate to what happened there it's only you and not the rest of the World that knows it, in other words it's dubious at best.

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According to some, Arabs are a bit untrustworthy??

So how could we trust the word of these guys? :P
Edited by skwirked, Nov 24 2015, 11:00 PM.
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Nov 24 2015, 10:59 PM
According to some, Arabs are a bit untrustworthy??

So how could we trust the word of these guys? :P


did I say they were Arabs?? FFS Take your pick,Arab ,European ( we have a choice of nationalities ),or both?
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Posted Image The pottymouth language stops NOW!

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According to some, Arabs are a bit untrustworthy??

So how could we trust the word of these guys? :P


did I say they were Arabs?? FFS Take your pick,Arab ,European ( we have a choice of nationalities ),or both?
Okay send the details to say Steve as a mod.

Let him verify that they are in Egypt and lived there in 1999 and saw this.
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Nov 24 2015, 11:08 PM
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Nov 24 2015, 11:05 PM
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Nov 24 2015, 10:59 PM
According to some, Arabs are a bit untrustworthy??

So how could we trust the word of these guys? :P


did I say they were Arabs?? FFS Take your pick,Arab ,European ( we have a choice of nationalities ),or both?
Okay send the details to say Steve as a mod.

Let him verify that they are in Egypt and lived there in 1999 and saw this.


This has to do with Trigger ,nobody else for now ,1999 has nothing to do with anything,i'm questioning his constant implications that I never lived in Egypt between 1998 and 2004.
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Nov 24 2015, 10:59 PM
According to some, Arabs are a bit untrustworthy??

So how could we trust the word of these guys? :P


did I say they were Arabs?? FFS Take your pick,Arab ,European ( we have a choice of nationalities ),or both?
Okay send the details to say Steve as a mod.

Let him verify that they are in Egypt and lived there in 1999 and saw this.
Please no

FWIW I believe that Stonefish was in Egypt and that while he was there those homosexuals were hanged - likely on trumped up charges to cover the real reason

Can anyone actually counter that?
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No,you know what I mean big mouth ,in regards to my living in Egypt for 5 years....agreed you little spineless prick? :)
But I never said I didn't believe you lived in Egypt did I?

It's just that when you relate to what happened there it's only you and not the rest of the World that knows it, in other words it's dubious at best.



Oh but you have on more than one occasion ,so put your money where your big fat mouth is or STFU
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Okay send the details to say Steve as a mod.

Let him verify that they are in Egypt and lived there in 1999 and saw this.


This has to do with Trigger ,nobody else for now ,1999 has nothing to do with anything,i'm questioning his constant implications that I never lived in Egypt between 1998 and 2004.
Tigger:

"But I never said I didn't believe you lived in Egypt did I?"


:rubchin:

I've known plenty of MEers who hold stuff against Muslims as well. Often they have been attacked or lost family to groups of them so wrong but a bit understandable why they feel so.
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Nov 24 2015, 11:13 PM
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Okay send the details to say Steve as a mod.

Let him verify that they are in Egypt and lived there in 1999 and saw this.
Please no

FWIW I believe that Stonefish was in Egypt and that while he was there those homosexuals were hanged - likely on trumped up charges to cover the real reason

Can anyone actually counter that?
Huh?

Idiotic post Steve.
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Please no

FWIW I believe that Stonefish was in Egypt and that while he was there those homosexuals were hanged - likely on trumped up charges to cover the real reason

Can anyone actually counter that?
Huh?

Idiotic post Steve.
Care to explain why you think that?
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Nov 24 2015, 11:14 PM


Oh but you have on more than one occasion ,so put your money where your big fat mouth is or STFU
Show me where I have said you did not live in Egypt.

It's your claims about what you saw there that is the problem as there is zero proof.
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Okay send the details to say Steve as a mod.

Let him verify that they are in Egypt and lived there in 1999 and saw this.
Please no

FWIW I believe that Stonefish was in Egypt and that while he was there those homosexuals were hanged - likely on trumped up charges to cover the real reason

Can anyone actually counter that?
Well if 14 gays did get hanged like the bigot said,he could put a link up then
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This has to do with Trigger ,nobody else for now ,1999 has nothing to do with anything,i'm questioning his constant implications that I never lived in Egypt between 1998 and 2004.
Tigger:

"But I never said I didn't believe you lived in Egypt did I?"


:rubchin:

I've known plenty of MEers who hold stuff against Muslims as well. Often they have been attacked or lost family to groups of them so wrong but a bit understandable why they feel so.


Amazing.....I will try to repeat this clearly.....this is about Trigger questioning my living in Egypt,nothing more,nothing less ...get it ????
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Please no

FWIW I believe that Stonefish was in Egypt and that while he was there those homosexuals were hanged - likely on trumped up charges to cover the real reason

Can anyone actually counter that?
Huh?

Idiotic post Steve.
Care to explain why you think that?
Because you are agreeing with someone who cannot back up a claim?

He offered an anecdote and when I checked out the Amnesty International website I could find absolutely nothing that remotely backed his claim.
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Amazing.....I will try to repeat this clearly.....this is about Trigger questioning my living in Egypt,nothing more,nothing less ...get it ????
Post 334.

Read it and respond to the specific question.
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Care to explain why you think that?
Because you are agreeing with someone who cannot back up a claim?

He offered an anecdote and when I checked out the Amnesty International website I could find absolutely nothing that remotely backed his claim.
Well I believe him and you can't prove him wrong. Seems though you do wish to misrepresent what he posted and that makes me even more likely to believe him

Perhaps you should look back at what was actually posted
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Please no

FWIW I believe that Stonefish was in Egypt and that while he was there those homosexuals were hanged - likely on trumped up charges to cover the real reason

Can anyone actually counter that?
Well if 14 gays did get hanged like the bigot said,he could put a link up then


Your right , its a complete fallacy,as you know I hate muslims and will do anything to try and destroy their reputation. TBH I cannot cure myself of my bigotry,ever so sorry.

Anyway hows the old ISIS thing going,planned to blow anything up recently? i'd suggest trying your brain,but it would be such a small explosion,hardly worth bothering about really !!
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Just :facepalm:

It's not that I disbelieve him, it's just that ut can't be shown one way or the other..
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Well if 14 gays did get hanged like the bigot said,he could put a link up then


Your right , its a complete fallacy,as you know I hate muslims and will do anything to try and destroy their reputation. TBH I cannot cure myself of my bigotry,ever so sorry.

Anyway hows the old ISIS thing going,planned to blow anything up recently? i'd suggest trying your brain,but it would be such a small explosion,hardly worth bothering about really !!
I know you don't like being caught out for telling untruths,but it can't be difficult,just put a link up that shows your story is true?
The second part of your post well let's be charitable ,and say,whatever
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Nov 24 2015, 11:34 PM



JUST TO BE CLEAR TO ALL ,TRIGGER HAS ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASSION REFUSED TO ACCEPT ( FOR SOME WEIRDO REASON) THAT I LIVED AS IVE STATED IN EGYPT FOR 5 YEARS.

It's very simple, all YOU have to do is show me the posts where I specifically claimed you had not lived in Egypt.

How about that for a challenge? :)
Edited by Tigger, Nov 24 2015, 11:39 PM.
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Your right , its a complete fallacy,as you know I hate muslims and will do anything to try and destroy their reputation. TBH I cannot cure myself of my bigotry,ever so sorry.

Anyway hows the old ISIS thing going,planned to blow anything up recently? i'd suggest trying your brain,but it would be such a small explosion,hardly worth bothering about really !!
I know you don't like being caught out for telling untruths,but it can't be difficult,just put a link up that shows your story is true?
The second part of your post well let's be charitable ,and say,whatever
 ::)

You didn't spot the sarcasm and you seem to think that what cannot be backed up with a link is false. Does the logic flaw in that not seem obvious?
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JUST TO BE CLEAR TO ALL ,TRIGGER HAS ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASSION REFUSED TO ACCEPT ( FOR SOME WEIRDO REASON) THAT I LIVED AS IVE STATED IN EGYPT FOR 5 YEARS.

It's very simple, all YOU have to do is show me the posts where I specifically claimed you had not lived in Egypt.

How about that for a challenge? :)


Oh that was before I took my holiday.no way im finding them;but as you know you little turd you said it more than once.

So,in the face of a real dead end for you,your now willing to accept ( sorry LMAO ) that I did indeed spend 5 years living and working in Egypt between 1998 /2004 ??
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Your right , its a complete fallacy,as you know I hate muslims and will do anything to try and destroy their reputation. TBH I cannot cure myself of my bigotry,ever so sorry.

Anyway hows the old ISIS thing going,planned to blow anything up recently? i'd suggest trying your brain,but it would be such a small explosion,hardly worth bothering about really !!
I know you don't like being caught out for telling untruths,but it can't be difficult,just put a link up that shows your story is true?
The second part of your post well let's be charitable ,and say,whatever


Sorry mate,cutting you off ,same as im about to with Trigger ,don't like wasting space.I explained this already if you cannot be assed to read that's your problem.
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Oh that was before I took my holiday.no way im finding them;but as you know you little turd you said it more than once.

!===

Lets face it, you imagined me saying I doubted you'd lived in Egypt didn't you?

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